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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:27 PM Dec 2017

UPDATED: U.S. Supreme Court Lets Trump Travel Ban Take Full Effect

Last edited Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Bloomberg News




December 4, 2017, 4:15 PM EST

A divided U.S. Supreme Court let President Donald Trump’s travel ban take full effect while legal challenges go forward, handing him a major victory and suggesting the court ultimately will uphold the restrictions, Bloomberg News reports.

Trump will now be able to bar or restrict entry by people from six mostly Muslim countries, even if they have a relationship with a U.S.-based person or institution. The order effectively supersedes a compromise the justices reached in June, when they let an earlier version of the ban take partial effect but exempted people with a "bona fide" U.S. connection.

Developing...

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-04/u-s-supreme-court-lets-trump-travel-ban-take-full-effect-jasp2kia



UPDATE:

Supreme Court allows full enforcement of Trump travel ban while legal challenges continue

By Robert Barnes December 4 at 4:26 PM

The Supreme Court on Monday granted President Trump’s request that his revised travel ban be enforced fully while legal challenges to it proceed in lower courts.

The justices approved a request from the president’s lawyers to lift restrictions on the order — which bans most travelers from eight nations, most with Muslim majorities — that had been imposed by lower courts.

The court gave no reason for its decision, but said it expected lower court review of the executive orders to proceed quickly. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor would have kept in place partial stays on the order.

Judges in two judicial circuits — the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in San Francisco — had cast doubt on Trump’s third executive order banning almost all travel from certain countries.

Oral arguments are scheduled for soon in both federal appeals court cases on whether the ban exceeds the president’s broad powers on immigration.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-allows-full-enforcement-of-trump-travel-ban-while-legal-challenges-continue/2017/12/04/486549c0-d5fc-11e7-a986-d0a9770d9a3e_story.html
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UPDATED: U.S. Supreme Court Lets Trump Travel Ban Take Full Effect (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
Sigh. Just seems like we can never get a break. OliverQ Dec 2017 #1
WTF Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #2
The link states that it was a 7-2 decision, so it wasn't even close Lurks Often Dec 2017 #3
Trying to ruin anything and everything before he is removed from power Botany Dec 2017 #4
supreme court johnnylol Dec 2017 #5
your concern is noted Botany Dec 2017 #6
Why did you respond like that? rockfordfile Dec 2017 #8
I don't know Botany Dec 2017 #12
Good manners, probably. Glorfindel Dec 2017 #13
7-2? Geeze they didn't even need Gorsuch inwiththenew Dec 2017 #7
Wow! ananda Dec 2017 #9
Wasn't this supposed to be a temporary measure a yr ago to allow time to change vetting? uppityperson Dec 2017 #10
He wants it permanent. he will probably get his wish. SylviaD Dec 2017 #21
definite sign bluestarone Dec 2017 #11
This is not at all surprising, based on previous Supreme Court decisions. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #14
True FBaggins Dec 2017 #18
Before this Tyrant is thrown out of office it will take longer for this country to rebuild from the geretogo Dec 2017 #15
WTF? The purpose of the ban was to gain time to study the issue. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #16
I think this is the post-study-it plan FBaggins Dec 2017 #19
It was. Igel Dec 2017 #23
Breyer and Kagan voted with the Wingnuts Dalton Mac Dec 2017 #17
This Supreme Court is a joke. SylviaD Dec 2017 #20
I wonder if other countries will boycott the U.S. hitting tourism revenue hard. nt chowder66 Dec 2017 #22
I think they feared a Tweetstorm bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #24
NEXT Doreen Dec 2017 #25
my words exactly Stargazer99 Dec 2017 #26
So this was a 7/2 decision? turbinetree Dec 2017 #27
It's actually almost certainly the right decision legally FBaggins Dec 2017 #28
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
1. Sigh. Just seems like we can never get a break.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:35 PM
Dec 2017

Gorsuch's stolen seat is going to hurt for a very long time.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
4. Trying to ruin anything and everything before he is removed from power
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:40 PM
Dec 2017

God Damn Mitch McConnell for blocking Gorsch until the Russian fix was in.

We are no longer a democracy.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
12. I don't know
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:49 PM
Dec 2017

холодные ночи и теплый суп свеклы делают тело наилучшим образом

Glorfindel

(9,732 posts)
13. Good manners, probably.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:51 PM
Dec 2017

The responder was too polite to let the original poster know that "the president" is not usually the way we refer to the tRump* monster in these parts. When he or she has been on DU a bit longer, the proper forms of address will become second nature.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
7. 7-2? Geeze they didn't even need Gorsuch
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:44 PM
Dec 2017

That is a pretty strong indicator of how the court will come down on this one. I hope I'm wrong though.

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
18. True
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:24 PM
Dec 2017

With some fiddling around the edges, the real surprise was that we were able to find a few judges that would slow it down.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
15. Before this Tyrant is thrown out of office it will take longer for this country to rebuild from the
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 05:59 PM
Dec 2017

destruction than it took Europe to rebuild after WW2 . You can bank on it .

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
16. WTF? The purpose of the ban was to gain time to study the issue.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:01 PM
Dec 2017

What have they been doing in the meantime?

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
19. I think this is the post-study-it plan
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:26 PM
Dec 2017

I'm pretty sure these appeals relate to the replacement plan

Igel

(35,332 posts)
23. It was.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:37 PM
Dec 2017

But in getting the blanket injunction against implementation of the order, that also constituted an injunction against studying the vetting procedures.

Still, the injunction was lifted (partially, at least) long enough ago that the requested time for studying and proposing changes was up, IIRC, in Oct.

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
24. I think they feared a Tweetstorm
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:42 PM
Dec 2017

that could erode freedoms more than this did ... they might be right in the short run.

In the long run, the political tide will turn because we're going to turn it!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
25. NEXT
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:44 PM
Dec 2017

All of our "used to be true allies" will be banned. THEN, unless you can prove you have a shit load of money WE will start not being allowed to leave our country ( for any reason. ) The moment that fucking tax plan passed we became fucked over BIG time. It is a good thing Obama is not the one who said murder is illegal because trump would make sure it became legal. I myself have been given another reason to hate this country. No, I am not saying the people particularly all of you and like minded people but what this country itself is becoming and starting to represent. I am just prepared for death and enslavement.

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
28. It's actually almost certainly the right decision legally
Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:50 AM
Dec 2017

The issue in this case is that Trump is using the power of the presidency poorly (that is... making the wrong decisions). It isn't (In this case) that the presidency doesn't have that particular power.

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