Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:29 PM

Vidal (642 posts)

Data: Republican Party ID drops after Trump election

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Source: NBC News

Donald Trump’s presidential win was a boon for the Republican Party in Washington, consolidating the GOP’s control of the Oval Office, Senate and House of Representatives. But beyond the Beltway, poll data suggests the election has had the opposite effect on the party, pushing voters away.

From November 2016 to November 2017 there was a 5-point drop in the number of people who call themselves Republicans, from 42 percent to 37 percent, according to Gallup. In that same time, the number of people identifying as Democrats stayed flat at 44 percent.

Do the math and a 2-point edge for the Democrats in party identification, 44 percent to 42 percent, has been pushed to 7 points, 44 percent to 37 percent, in just one year. That’s getting up into the area that may be a concern for Republicans in the 2018 midterms, where a big swing in party allegiance could lead to a swing in House and Senate seats.

You can see the potential impact of party-switching numbers like those in this year’s Virginia governor’s race. The exit polls from that race compared to the 2013 election showed Republican affiliation was down 2 points, while Democratic affiliation was up 4 points.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/trumps-victory-1-year-later/data-republican-party-id-drops-after-trump-election-n828141

The decline in Republican Party identification occurs in all age groups, different education levels and most racial and ethnic groups. This shows it is a very widespread phenomenon.

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13 replies	Author	Time	Post
Data: Republican Party ID drops after Trump election (Original post)	Vidal	Dec 2017	OP
This news makes me very happy.	CaliforniaPeggy	Dec 2017	#1
Not everyone is into betraying America by submissively following KGOP republican Comrade Casino*	Achilleaze	Dec 2017	#2
Democratic ID drops after Sen. Al Franken is railroaded by his own party.	ffr	Dec 2017	#3
That has nothing to do with this thread and overall that kind of talk hurts us imo.	cstanleytech	Dec 2017	#4
Not sure why reposting what many have also said would be taboo.	ffr	Dec 2017	#7
I did not say it was taboo I am simply saying I kind of talk really just hurts us.	cstanleytech	Dec 2017	#8
That's fine, but it ignores the root of the problem that Ds took out one of their giants	ffr	Dec 2017	#10
Damn it all!	lark	Dec 2017	#5
Who are the "self-selfing, truth ignoring assholes on the so-called left"?	Demit	Dec 2017	#6
The only poll that counts is at the polls	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2017	#9
Why worry about voters when they have Putin and electronic machines?	C Moon	Dec 2017	#11
Not sure this means anything....	vi5	Dec 2017	#12
Locking....	DonViejo	Dec 2017	#13

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:35 PM

CaliforniaPeggy (142,760 posts)

1. This news makes me very happy.

It could not happen to a more deserving party!

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:37 PM

Achilleaze (15,475 posts)

2. Not everyone is into betraying America by submissively following KGOP republican Comrade Casino*

In fact, the vast majority of Americans think that the systematically deceitful & duplicitous Comrade Casino and his KGOP republican cronies and evil empire** russian money-mob comrades are a heinous criminal conspiracy to overthrow American democracy to make the rich richer.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.

** per ronald reagan (R)

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:38 PM

ffr (21,548 posts)

3. Democratic ID drops after Sen. Al Franken is railroaded by his own party.

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Response to ffr (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:43 PM

cstanleytech (24,003 posts)

4. That has nothing to do with this thread and overall that kind of talk hurts us imo.

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:03 PM

ffr (21,548 posts)

7. Not sure why reposting what many have also said would be taboo.

There's frustration, a lot of it, because republicans are at war with everyone, particularly democrats and the democrats took out one of their giants without vetting an established process. War is war. All hands on deck.

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:04 PM

cstanleytech (24,003 posts)

8. I did not say it was taboo I am simply saying I kind of talk really just hurts us.

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:11 PM

ffr (21,548 posts)

10. That's fine, but it ignores the root of the problem that Ds took out one of their giants

How hurtful is that, when D leadership demoralizes their supporters, like those of us supporting Sen. Franken? I'm so mad, I feel like the best thing I can do right now is switch to NP our of protest. Let the normal process take its course.

And if I don't talk about it, because "it only hurts us," who in D leadership will know why all of a sudden are people fleeing the party, just as they railroaded Sen Al Franken?

So kind of a catch-22.

I'm speaking out.

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Response to ffr (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:44 PM

lark (20,730 posts)

5. Damn it all!

No we have to watch for democrats backstabbing each other just to get rid of competition? It sickens me and unfortunately it's deserved by self-selfing, truth ignoring assholes on the so-called left.

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Response to lark (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:52 PM

Demit (11,238 posts)

6. Who are the "self-selfing, truth ignoring assholes on the so-called left"?

You're perilously close to smearing Democrats & that's a TOS no-no.

But I'd still love to know what your garbled insult is referring to.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:07 PM

bucolic_frolic (33,321 posts)

9. The only poll that counts is at the polls

and gerrymandering and crooked counts is sandbagging Democrats

The world is controlled by oligarchs. The Soviet's state oligarchs lost the Cold War, so they sold everything to the private oligarchs. Our oligarchs have been rising for decades. Now they are merging.

What'cha gonna do about it?

Be good, enjoy what you can.

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:14 PM

C Moon (11,108 posts)

11. Why worry about voters when they have Putin and electronic machines?

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:18 PM

vi5 (13,305 posts)

12. Not sure this means anything....

...someone like my father-in-law is not a registered Republican. He claims he's an "independent" but always voters for Republicans anyway.

He didn't like Trump, hates him even more now that he's in office, but I have no reason to believe that the minute Trump is gone, all will be forgiven and he's not going to hold it against anyone else in the party or the party itself for what they've done and how they enabled this.

The minute President Pence is sworn in, "the adults will be back in charge" I'm sure.

At what point is it going to sink in for the Democratic party that hating Republicans does not automatically equal liking Democrats. Or worse yet that it definitely doesn't mean or equal VOTING for Democrats.

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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:22 PM

DonViejo (60,536 posts)

13. Locking....

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