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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:24 PM Jan 2018

Fusion GPS founder told Senate investigators the FBI had a source in Trumps network

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Source: Washington Post

The British ex-spy who authored a dossier of allegations against then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was told the FBI had someone inside Trump’s network providing agents with information, according to a newly released transcript of a congressional interview.

Glenn R. Simpson, founder of the research firm Fusion GPS, spoke to investigators with the Senate Judiciary Committee for 10 hours in August. As the partisan fight over Russian interference in the 2016 election has intensified, Simpson has urged that his testimony be released, and a copy of the transcript was made public Tuesday.

...snip...

“My understanding was that they believed Chris at this point — that they believed Chris might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the Trump organization,” Simpson said. Using the parlance of spies and law enforcement officials, Simpson said the FBI had a “walk-in’’ whistleblower from someone in Trump’s organization.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/feinstein-releases-testimony-of-glenn-simpson-whose-research-firm-fusion-gps-was-behind-trump-dossier/2018/01/09/15da150a-f562-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html

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Fusion GPS founder told Senate investigators the FBI had a source in Trumps network (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2018 OP
FOXWORLD - Obama was using the FBI to spy on Trump!! underpants Jan 2018 #1
And Hillary was working with Putin to rig the election against Trump, by .. Wwcd Jan 2018 #7
"You watch". No, you watch. I'd rather not watch Fox. I don't even have a TV. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #19
They watch Fox do you dont have to underpants Jan 2018 #22
Who was it!! Wwcd Jan 2018 #2
And did the whistleblower wear a wire fior months and months? L. Coyote Jan 2018 #38
When's the last time anyone saw Meredith McIver? JHB Jan 2018 #44
FBI had an inside source.......that's gonna' make 45* even more paranoid than he already was. groundloop Jan 2018 #3
the transcript surely was shared with the house.... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #8
Yes more puzzle pieces falling together. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #29
By the time he gets to Mueller's interview he'll be spilling his guts & in tears Wwcd Jan 2018 #10
I assume NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #12
Yes I wonder who the mole(s) are. I suspect more than one. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #27
Maybe Veselnitskaya. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #37
OK, they can't use cellphones, can't bring recording devices. louis-t Jan 2018 #16
Body cavity searches: rainin Jan 2018 #41
Even if it's not true, it's gonna make him NUCKEN FUTZ!! mitch96 Jan 2018 #40
There's been some backtracking on this -- mainer Jan 2018 #4
Good point. Australians underpants Jan 2018 #23
In the transcript Simpson unequivocally says it was a source inside the Trump campaign n/t blitzen Jan 2018 #26
Hardly jberryhill Jan 2018 #42
Yeah, I think that's more likely RandomAccess Jan 2018 #35
You nailed it underpants Jan 2018 #43
Republican party knew Iliyah Jan 2018 #5
Yes. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #30
hahaha barbtries Jan 2018 #6
So, in the summer of 16, someone in Trump's camp was ALREADY concerned enough to call the FBI. pnwmom Jan 2018 #9
They were concerned he was being blackmailed Corgigal Jan 2018 #13
That would be so sweet! n/t mobeau69 Jan 2018 #15
We know it wasn't Bannon or Manafort FakeNoose Jan 2018 #11
I believe NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #17
Good suggestions, but FakeNoose Jan 2018 #21
Kellyanne seems so fused with Trump. Would she flip on him? Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #32
So Grassley was running a con game Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #14
The entire transcript is now up for viewing.... Snarkoleptic Jan 2018 #18
My money is on Carter Page SpicyBoi Jan 2018 #20
That would explain why PatSeg Jan 2018 #25
My money's on James Woolsey as the inside man. Mr. Ected Jan 2018 #24
Woolsey, or as a dark horse candidate, Ezra Cohen-Watnick denbot Jan 2018 #34
I want it to be Melania. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #28
LOL or Barron, my thought too. FSogol Jan 2018 #39
I hate to be shallow, but thbobby Jan 2018 #31
Yes America has lost its way. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #33
The timeline seems unclear marylandblue Jan 2018 #36
Locking.... DonViejo Jan 2018 #45

underpants

(196,495 posts)
1. FOXWORLD - Obama was using the FBI to spy on Trump!!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

You watch

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
7. And Hillary was working with Putin to rig the election against Trump, by ..
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

..outing Trump & Putin's criminal organization.
Yup. There you have it folks, straight from Trump's brilliant base.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
19. "You watch". No, you watch. I'd rather not watch Fox. I don't even have a TV.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jan 2018



underpants

(196,495 posts)
22. They watch Fox do you dont have to
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jan 2018
http://www.newshounds.us/

Actually (thankfully) I don't get Fox on my Apple TV package
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. Who was it!!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
38. And did the whistleblower wear a wire fior months and months?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018
That has to be the question of the day for Trump and friends!
Good thing trump is a very stable genius!

JHB

(38,213 posts)
44. When's the last time anyone saw Meredith McIver?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jan 2018

groundloop

(13,849 posts)
3. FBI had an inside source.......that's gonna' make 45* even more paranoid than he already was.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jan 2018



Gee, multiple credible sources saying the same thing.... it might not be "fake news" after all.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
8. the transcript surely was shared with the house....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:33 PM
Jan 2018

and if nunes saw it, the wh already knows.

That's probably why they accused obama of wiretapping him.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
29. Yes more puzzle pieces falling together. nt
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:31 PM
Jan 2018
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
10. By the time he gets to Mueller's interview he'll be spilling his guts & in tears
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jan 2018

He's a mess!

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
12. I assume
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jan 2018

that the inside source was not Flynn or Papadapolous?

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
27. Yes I wonder who the mole(s) are. I suspect more than one.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jan 2018

Infiltrating the Trump campaign and WH looks quite easy.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. Maybe Veselnitskaya.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:42 PM
Jan 2018

She was part of the campaign.

louis-t

(24,618 posts)
16. OK, they can't use cellphones, can't bring recording devices.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jan 2018

What's next? Cameras in the bathrooms? Body cavity searches?

rainin

(3,246 posts)
41. Body cavity searches:
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:06 PM
Jan 2018

Trump:" lift up your skirt, honey. You're not carrying a recording device up there, are you? Come a little closer."

Sorry, that was gross. But, he's busy with something while he's not doing actual work.

mitch96

(15,804 posts)
40. Even if it's not true, it's gonna make him NUCKEN FUTZ!!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:48 PM
Jan 2018

He'll be looking between burger patties for the informant....
Watch it'll be Jared...HA!!
m

mainer

(12,554 posts)
4. There's been some backtracking on this --
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018

another source said that this was misinterpreted. The "walk-in" source referenced above might have been the Australian diplomat who told the FBI about Papadapoulos.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
23. Good point. Australians
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:02 PM
Jan 2018

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
26. In the transcript Simpson unequivocally says it was a source inside the Trump campaign n/t
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:28 PM
Jan 2018
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
42. Hardly
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jan 2018

It is very unusual for the FBI to give out any information, even when they are taking information from you as a witness or interested party.

The likelihood of the FBI telling some guy "we heard this from someone inside the campaign" I would put at zero.

While they may have said it was consistent with information they already knew, the "someone in the Trump camp" may be simply a gap-filling recollection on Simpson's part. If you are not familiar with the way that people's assumptions have a way of creeping into their memories, I'm not going to write a dissertation here about it. But having dealt with enough witnesses and enough examinations, I can simply tell you flat out that FBI would not reveal to someone on the outside that they had a source in the Trump camp.

As we already know, the Australians had dropped a dime on "the coffee boy", and even if the FBI had suggested they already knew what Simpson was saying, he would likely have assumed it was someone in the Trump camp, and would also remember it that way.

But here we have "unequivocal" testimony from some guy about what someone else said that some other guy had told them. Yeah, that's real "unequivocal".
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
35. Yeah, I think that's more likely
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

underpants

(196,495 posts)
43. You nailed it
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:20 PM
Jan 2018

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Republican party knew
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:30 PM
Jan 2018

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
30. Yes. nt
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jan 2018

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
6. hahaha
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

that should drive him around the bend.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
9. So, in the summer of 16, someone in Trump's camp was ALREADY concerned enough to call the FBI.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jan 2018

They have been getting leaked to since then. And I bet that person was asked to stay in place as an informant.

Wow.

Corgigal

(9,298 posts)
13. They were concerned he was being blackmailed
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:37 PM
Jan 2018

Which explains why he ran in the first place, cause he didn't want the job. Knew he was broke, and so is his family.

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
15. That would be so sweet! n/t
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jan 2018

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
11. We know it wasn't Bannon or Manafort
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:35 PM
Jan 2018

Bannon didn't start with Trump's campaign until August 2016. Manafort was only there for a month or so. It was somebody who started early and didn't get fired, so that eliminates Corey Lewandowski. Maybe it was Hope Hicks?

That would be extremely cool! Cheeto would blow a gasket if it's really her.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
17. I believe
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jan 2018

Kellyanne Conway joined at the same time as Bannon, no? Maybe an assistant to Don Jr or Eric?

I assume they don't mean Papadapolous or Flynn?

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
21. Good suggestions, but
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jan 2018

Kellyanne and Bannon came onboard together in August. It was Robert Mercer who wanted them working on the Trump campaign. Papadopoulos and Flynn both talk too much, they would have blabbed I think, and the FBI might not have trusted either of them. (I could be wrong though.)

Anybody who was an assistant probably didn't have access to the real treason, but maybe Jr. and Eric were so stupid they didn't even try to cover their tracks. I'm still reading Fire and Fury, and Michael Wolff is remarking about how few insiders there were on the campaign before Trump won the nomination. That makes it easy to point out Ms. Hicks, she's the only early insider who didn't quit or get fired.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
32. Kellyanne seems so fused with Trump. Would she flip on him?
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:34 PM
Jan 2018
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. So Grassley was running a con game
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:39 PM
Jan 2018

to protect Trump all along. If one remembers Watergate and Whitewater,the Rethugs acted and reacted in a very similar way. Discredit the Messenger and try any bury that person so deep he or she would never see the light of day.

Pack a lunch,going to get reallll interesting.

Snarkoleptic

(6,235 posts)
18. The entire transcript is now up for viewing....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jan 2018

SpicyBoi

(162 posts)
20. My money is on Carter Page
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jan 2018

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
25. That would explain why
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jan 2018

he always had that goofy grin on his face, like he didn't have a worry in the world.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
24. My money's on James Woolsey as the inside man.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

Do the time lines work out?

denbot

(9,950 posts)
34. Woolsey, or as a dark horse candidate, Ezra Cohen-Watnick
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

I’m guessing it was someone with an intel background.

Kingofalldems

(40,278 posts)
28. I want it to be Melania.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:31 PM
Jan 2018

Probably not though.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
39. LOL or Barron, my thought too.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
31. I hate to be shallow, but
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jan 2018

this shit is funny. Sucks that American Democracy is being destroyed and we are the laughing stock of the world. trump: making America pathetic and funny. I would say again, but such a catastrophe has rarely been seen America. Not since the last GOP president anyway. Come to think of it, bush was pathetic and funny. And damaged America and the world unmeasurably. the GOP: sweet mother of god. What the fuck is wrong with us?

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
33. Yes America has lost its way. nt
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jan 2018

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
36. The timeline seems unclear
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:38 PM
Jan 2018

Dud the source go to the FBI in July, or just summer? If it's summer, then it still could be Bannon. This would be consistent with his remark in the book than Don Jr. should have gone to the FBI.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
45. Locking....
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jan 2018

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