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progree

(12,975 posts)
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:51 PM Jan 2018

Trump at Risk for a Heart Attack With Dangerous Weight and Skyrocketing Cholesterol

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Last edited Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:28 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Newsweek

A military physician, Dr. Ronny Jackson, did the exam at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Jackson also performed President Barack Obamas last physical in March 2016.

Trumps body mass index, which is 29.9, means hes considered overweight. He's gained about three pounds since last year. That number is just squeaking under the line between "overweight" and "obese."

(For comparison's sake, Obamas last reported BMI was 22.8.) Trump's total cholesterol has also risen from 169 last year to 223; his level of so-called "bad" cholesterol has also increased from 94 to 143.

Trumps baseline risk for a heart attack is about 16 percent, according to one calculator ( http://www.cvriskcalculator.com/ ) that uses guidelines established by the American College of Cardiology and the American Heart Association. That is your risk of having a heart attack in the next ten years, Dr. Leigh Simmons, also an internist at Massachusetts General, explained.



Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-risk-heart-attack-dangerous-220447054.html



Trump takes an aspirin and a low dose of a statin (cholesterol-lowering) drug. He will be increasing the cholesterol drug, according to the examining physician, Dr. Ronny Jackson, quoted in the article.

A BMI of 30 is the lower boundary of obese. So he's under that by just 0.1 points.

And wow on the increase in the cholesterol levels.

Not a word in this article about what his blood pressure is.

Nothing about maybe a better diet to improve his "excellent health".


Edited to add a link to the full 3 page report (thanks Motley13 ) :

https://www.scribd.com/document/369309002/Summary-of-Physical-Exam-for-President-Trump-12-Jan-2018?irgwc1&content10079&campaignSkimbit%2C%20Ltd.&ad_group35871X943606Xecdcac1a746116dd3b20a59a8435dbe4&keywordft750noi&sourceimpactradius&mediumaffiliate#from_embed

Some key stats that are not included in the above (with a couple exceptions, e.g. cholesterol):

# Weight: 239 pounds, Height: 6'3" (75" ),
(from the Newsweek article, not from the doctor's report: BMI: 29.9 -- obese begins at 30.0)
# Blood pressure: 122/74. Resting heart rate: 68 bpm
# Cognitive Screening Exam using the Montreal Cognitive Assessment was normal with a score of 30/30
This OP has a picture of it: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210109477
# Total cholesterol: 223, HDL (good) cholesterol: 67, LDL (bad) cholesterol: 143, Cholesterol to HDL ratio: 3.3
# Triglycerides: 129 mg/DL
# Hemoglobin A1C: 5.0%

Medications:
Rosuvastatin (Crestor). 10 mg daily to lower cholesterol
Aspirin: 81 mg daily for cardiac health
Finasteride (Propecia). 1 mg daily for prevention of male pattern hair loss.
Ivermectin Cream (Soolantra). As needed for treatment of Rosacea
Multi-vitamin (Centrum Silver).

Summary: The President's overall health is excellent. His cardiac performance during his physical exam was very good. ... We discussed diet, exercise and weight loss. He would benefit from a diet that is lower in fat and carbohydrates and from a routine exercise regimen. He has a history of elevated cholesterol and is currently on a low dose of Rosuvastatin. In order to further reduce his cholesterol level and further decrease his cardiac risk, we will increase the dose of this particular medication ...

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Trump at Risk for a Heart Attack With Dangerous Weight and Skyrocketing Cholesterol (Original Post) progree Jan 2018 OP
We should be so lucky. n/t Still In Wisconsin Jan 2018 #1
I just wish Trump was not so morally Corrupt! riversedge Jan 2018 #42
and I believe they accepted his lie about his height, so his true BMI is spooky3 Jan 2018 #2
I agree. Put his sorry butt on a scale, too, for an honest BMI number. mpcamb Jan 2018 #43
Headline doesn't reflect what I heard the doctor say. elleng Jan 2018 #3
True, the headline sure doesn't reflect any statement Dr. Jackson made... progree Jan 2018 #9
I thought statins were to lower cholesterol? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2018 #19
Yeah, I screwed up. I'll fix the my comments section of the OP. Thanks! progree Jan 2018 #21
Agree with you. Saw the whole thing on C-SPAN and the Dr. wasn't raising any alarm. When people go 24601 Jan 2018 #36
Wonder what his blood sugar level is? With those other numbers, he could be pre-diabetes, too. George II Jan 2018 #4
That blood sugar is so high it's already orbiting Shitgibbon's hair. Weed Man Jan 2018 #20
It was reported as being.... SergeStorms Jan 2018 #34
His A1C was reported as 5 Chakaconcarne Jan 2018 #49
Notice they did not do an MRI? They could have used that to fend off any cstanleytech Jan 2018 #5
Not just Alzheimer's. Cold War Spook Jan 2018 #45
The other issue:Montreal Cognitive Assessment. You can study for. mpcamb Jan 2018 #58
Another Big Mac, President Gump? John Fante Jan 2018 #6
wishful thinking AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #7
What's the bad news? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #8
That he has an 84% chance (100%-16%) of not having a heart attack in the next 10 years progree Jan 2018 #12
I seriously doubt he any taller than 6' 2"--look at him next to Pres. Obama whose 6' 1 and 1/2" Julian Englis Jan 2018 #10
Judging from the stair landing above their heads... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #23
He prolly not fooled Jan 2018 #27
Hes 70 something years old. He probably used to be 63 Calista241 Jan 2018 #26
He'll be 72 in June hatrack Jan 2018 #40
His blood pressure was 122 over 70 something. So that wasn't a problem. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #11
Thanks! Phenomenally good B.P. numbers considering his diet and lack of exercise and his weight progree Jan 2018 #13
He's gotta be on BP meds LeftInTX Jan 2018 #15
Yeah, I gotta find out what he's taking! I'm same height (6'2) 195 lb, BMI about 25 progree Jan 2018 #17
Paula White and Jim Bakker could say it's God's will. Lint Head Jan 2018 #14
I find his weight hard to believe. mahina Jan 2018 #16
He's gained more than 3 lbs since last year! Marie Marie Jan 2018 #18
Send McDonalds coupons.... Historic NY Jan 2018 #22
Heart attack? AZ Jim Jan 2018 #24
I'm curious about Dr. Jackson. Matilda Jan 2018 #25
Dangerous weight, you say? Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #28
Trump is in good shape for a man of his age. He has a very active lifestyle for his age. Doodley Jan 2018 #29
Active? Exactly what sort of physical activity does he partake in besides golfing? BlueStater Jan 2018 #30
Most 71 year olds I know aren't capable of playing golf. I would say he's doing well for his age. Doodley Jan 2018 #33
Golf's one of the least physically demanding sports there is. BlueStater Jan 2018 #35
Golf is not a sport if you can win playing drunk. Andr Agassi spooky3 Jan 2018 #44
Well, I'm almost 70 and know quite a few 71-year old men... llmart Jan 2018 #54
he doesn't get much exercise playing golf, even drives the golf cart onto Motley13 Jan 2018 #55
Most 71 year old men don't look like a turnip on legs n/t progree Jan 2018 #56
The doctor definitely seemed to lie about his height being 6'3. BlueStater Jan 2018 #31
I read he takes antibiotics every day torius Jan 2018 #32
And thats a problem how? truthisfreedom Jan 2018 #37
You ain't from around here! cannabis_flower Jan 2018 #41
So there's hope. Vinca Jan 2018 #38
Everyone is at risk for a heart attack oberliner Jan 2018 #39
FAKE NEWS -- President Donnie is in exceptionally excellent health rocktivity Jan 2018 #46
Trump plays 18 holes of golf and probably walks all of 200 feet.... Bengus81 Jan 2018 #47
Twould be a tragedy. Mc Mike Jan 2018 #48
NPR reported that Trump was advised to improve his diet and get exercise, and that Nitram Jan 2018 #50
There is no way in hell... Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #51
Aw...that would be so sad...really. (not really) Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #52
here is the doctor's report Motley13 Jan 2018 #53
Thanks! I'll add it to the OP n/t progree Jan 2018 #57
Locking.... DonViejo Jan 2018 #59
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
1. We should be so lucky. n/t
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:52 PM
Jan 2018

riversedge

(80,808 posts)
42. I just wish Trump was not so morally Corrupt!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:47 AM
Jan 2018

spooky3

(38,632 posts)
2. and I believe they accepted his lie about his height, so his true BMI is
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:53 PM
Jan 2018

probably a LOT higher than reported.

mpcamb

(3,228 posts)
43. I agree. Put his sorry butt on a scale, too, for an honest BMI number.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:03 AM
Jan 2018

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elleng

(141,926 posts)
3. Headline doesn't reflect what I heard the doctor say.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:54 PM
Jan 2018

Diet and/or exercise were mentioned; he prefers dealing with the issues via diet rather than exercise.

progree

(12,975 posts)
9. True, the headline sure doesn't reflect any statement Dr. Jackson made...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:03 AM
Jan 2018

according to the article,

"Jackson said on Friday that Trump's heart health was also excellent. “He falls into a category that portends years of event-free living,”


I don't think many doctors consider those excellent heart health numbers.

"Diet and/or exercise were mentioned; he prefers dealing with the issues via diet rather than exercise."

Nothing said about either diet or exercise in the Newsweek article linked to in the OP, but I don't doubt that Newsweek didn't cover everything important in the article.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,159 posts)
19. I thought statins were to lower cholesterol?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:39 AM
Jan 2018

But it says he takes statins AND a low dose of a cholesterol drug...

progree

(12,975 posts)
21. Yeah, I screwed up. I'll fix the my comments section of the OP. Thanks!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:48 AM
Jan 2018

From the article:

It’s not surprising, then, that Trump has continued to take a statin and an aspirin. Both should lower a person’s heart disease risk. “You can expect that a statin medication may lower one’s risk of a heart attack by 30 to 40 percent,” Simmons said. The benefits are especially noticeable for people whose risk is higher. According to the Mayo Clinic’s Statin Choice Decision Aid, Trump’s actual risk with his statin is probably closer to 13 percent.

Jackson noted that Trump would be increasing the dose of statin he is taking, which should decrease his risk further. "The dose of his cholesterol medicine is very low, so we have a lot of room to increase that," Jackson said on Tuesday. But any benefit assumes Trump will take it regularly—which, Simmons noted, only about 50 percent of people do after six months.

24601

(4,142 posts)
36. Agree with you. Saw the whole thing on C-SPAN and the Dr. wasn't raising any alarm. When people go
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:46 AM
Jan 2018

batshit crazy and mis-characterize simple things that are east to fact check, it undermines credibility on real issues,

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Wonder what his blood sugar level is? With those other numbers, he could be pre-diabetes, too.
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:55 PM
Jan 2018

I'll bet every time he shows up for a meeting with him, Pence brings a couple of big macs and large fries, fully salted.

 

Weed Man

(304 posts)
20. That blood sugar is so high it's already orbiting Shitgibbon's hair.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jan 2018

SergeStorms

(20,590 posts)
34. It was reported as being....
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:27 AM
Jan 2018

99. No report on what his A1C is. Looking at him, his sedentary life style, and his diet.......I'd say he's pushing 9.0, but that's just a wild guess. I watch mine like a hawk and I'm usually in the 7.3 - 7.5 range. Trump watches nothing but his waistline increase.

Chakaconcarne

(2,787 posts)
49. His A1C was reported as 5
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jan 2018

All of his vitals with the exception of Triglycerides were WNL.

I am pretty sure his weight was under-reported at 239 for a 6.3 ft. male. I would say he's in the 270's at least.

The doctors said they had been preparing for this physical exam for weeks. ??

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
5. Notice they did not do an MRI? They could have used that to fend off any
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:58 PM
Jan 2018

claims of Alzheimer's but they did not do it.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
45. Not just Alzheimer's.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:37 AM
Jan 2018

I had an MRI of my brain and it showed that I have vascular dementia. The MRI showed that I have had a series of minor strokes. Even minor strokes where you don't even know you had them can cause blockage of blood to different parts of the brain. I would think that an MRI would be done on any President as part of their annual physical.

mpcamb

(3,228 posts)
58. The other issue:Montreal Cognitive Assessment. You can study for.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jan 2018

The test and administration instructions are available for clinicians online.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
6. Another Big Mac, President Gump?
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:58 PM
Jan 2018

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
7. wishful thinking
Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:59 PM
Jan 2018

TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
8. What's the bad news?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:02 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(12,975 posts)
12. That he has an 84% chance (100%-16%) of not having a heart attack in the next 10 years
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:06 AM
Jan 2018

(assuming his numbers stay the same as they are now, but considering the big jump in cholesterol levels and 3 more pounds of weight, that won't be true unless those increases stop.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
10. I seriously doubt he any taller than 6' 2"--look at him next to Pres. Obama whose 6' 1 and 1/2"
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:04 AM
Jan 2018

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
23. Judging from the stair landing above their heads...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:30 AM
Jan 2018

I would estimate Dirty Donald is at least 1-inch shorter than President Obama, depending how much you allow for the bouffant. That would put him closer to 6-ft. even.

Maybe he forgot to wear his heels, LOL.


not fooled

(6,678 posts)
27. He prolly
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:56 AM
Jan 2018

had lifts in that photo. If so, without them he'd be even shorter than President Obama.



Calista241

(5,633 posts)
26. Hes 70 something years old. He probably used to be 63
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:55 AM
Jan 2018

My dad is the same age and is at least 2 inches shorter than he used to be.

hatrack

(64,883 posts)
40. He'll be 72 in June
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:26 AM
Jan 2018

.

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
11. His blood pressure was 122 over 70 something. So that wasn't a problem. n/t
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:04 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(12,975 posts)
13. Thanks! Phenomenally good B.P. numbers considering his diet and lack of exercise and his weight
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jan 2018

and his age.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
15. He's gotta be on BP meds
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:11 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(12,975 posts)
17. Yeah, I gotta find out what he's taking! I'm same height (6'2) 195 lb, BMI about 25
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:25 AM
Jan 2018

jog 70 minutes 2X a week, almost all my meals are vegeterian. Sometimes a sandwich with an ounce of turkey in it. About once a week I eat some crappy junk food meal.

My blood pressure, ughh, is 145/90. Pulse is 59-60 though which is fantastic.

I know I have to get on some B.P. meds. 3 1/2 years ago my systolic was typically like 118. Then it started creeping up. Its been stable for couple years, but its too high.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
14. Paula White and Jim Bakker could say it's God's will.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:09 AM
Jan 2018

mahina

(20,645 posts)
16. I find his weight hard to believe.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:15 AM
Jan 2018

Someone who is 6’2 can carry 236 much better than he does. I think it’s possible they’re under reporting his weight by at least 25 pounds. Also there’s no way he’s taller than 6’2 as another poster pointed out with evidence.

Marie Marie

(11,306 posts)
18. He's gained more than 3 lbs since last year!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jan 2018

3 lbs could be attributed to normal weight fluctuation - that man has put on actual weight. This whole thing such bullshit.

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
22. Send McDonalds coupons....
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:20 AM
Jan 2018

AZ Jim

(70 posts)
24. Heart attack?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:32 AM
Jan 2018

Trump has a heart?

Matilda

(6,384 posts)
25. I'm curious about Dr. Jackson.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 01:48 AM
Jan 2018

When I heard on the news this morning that Trump's stats were so good, I did wonder. He's overweight, doesn't exercise outside the golf course, eats very unhealthy food, and I even wondered about the perfect vision - very unusual for a man of nearly 71.

But this doctor served Obama as well, and I wondered - how do they pick these people? You'd like to think a doctor going on record would tell the truth.

Is he to be believed?

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
28. Dangerous weight, you say?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:09 AM
Jan 2018

Let's pool together our money to send a care package from KFC to the White House.

Doodley

(11,912 posts)
29. Trump is in good shape for a man of his age. He has a very active lifestyle for his age.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:15 AM
Jan 2018

We should be more concerned about his mental state than his physical condition.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
30. Active? Exactly what sort of physical activity does he partake in besides golfing?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 03:55 AM
Jan 2018

His other activities include tweeting, eating cheeseburgers, and watching hours of Fox News. Impressive.

Doodley

(11,912 posts)
33. Most 71 year olds I know aren't capable of playing golf. I would say he's doing well for his age.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:01 AM
Jan 2018

Okay, he could lose weight, as could most Americans. It is his mind that is an unhealthy cesspit.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
35. Golf's one of the least physically demanding sports there is.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:27 AM
Jan 2018

Maybe I'm simply not all that impressed because my paternal grandfather was still an active tennis player when he was 90.

spooky3

(38,632 posts)
44. Golf is not a sport if you can win playing drunk. Andr Agassi
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jan 2018

llmart

(17,615 posts)
54. Well, I'm almost 70 and know quite a few 71-year old men...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:03 AM
Jan 2018

I live in a community where most of the people are seniors. My cohorts are quite active. They cross country ski, mow their own lawns, run or walk at the park, ride bikes, play pickle ball, and yes, golf. One guy is in the senior olympics every year for swimming. He gets up at 4:30 every morning to go to the pool to swim.

This asshat rides in a golf cart and picks up a club to hit a little ball occasionally. Other than that, he doesn't do anything else, so no, he is NOT active.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
55. he doesn't get much exercise playing golf, even drives the golf cart onto
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jan 2018

the greens, drives, gets out swings or putts

progree

(12,975 posts)
56. Most 71 year old men don't look like a turnip on legs n/t
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
31. The doctor definitely seemed to lie about his height being 6'3.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:05 AM
Jan 2018

Photographic evidence of him standing next to people of that reported height show him to be noticeably shorter.

If they're willing to lie about something so petty, I don't trust anything else they say regarding his health.

torius

(1,652 posts)
32. I read he takes antibiotics every day
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:06 AM
Jan 2018

supposedly for his rosacea (the red frosting on the tanning-salon orange face). Can you imagine what that does to his gut bacteria? Doubt he's taking probiotics with his Big Macs.

truthisfreedom

(23,532 posts)
37. And thats a problem how?
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:25 AM
Jan 2018

He seems to be working in the interest of the nation.

cannabis_flower

(3,932 posts)
41. You ain't from around here!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:39 AM
Jan 2018

Really, working in the interest of the nation? Maybe you should go back to FreeRepublic where you belong. Unless of course, that was sarcasm.

Vinca

(53,989 posts)
38. So there's hope.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:15 AM
Jan 2018
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. Everyone is at risk for a heart attack
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:25 AM
Jan 2018

Regardless of weight and cholesterol.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
46. FAKE NEWS -- President Donnie is in exceptionally excellent health
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:44 AM
Jan 2018

Last edited Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:25 PM - Edit history (5)

This I know, because his doctor tweeted so (even if he doesn't know how to spell his own name).

In fact, he's the healthiest president you'll ever write fake news about!


rocktivity

Bengus81

(10,163 posts)
47. Trump plays 18 holes of golf and probably walks all of 200 feet....
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:50 AM
Jan 2018

Try getting your FAT ass out of the cart and WALKING to your ball. Duhhhhhhh

Mc Mike

(9,260 posts)
48. Twould be a tragedy.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jan 2018

Too bad he ploughed under the WH vegetable garden.

Nitram

(27,741 posts)
50. NPR reported that Trump was advised to improve his diet and get exercise, and that
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jan 2018

he was open to that as a possibility. Ha! That'll be the day.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
51. There is no way in hell...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:44 AM
Jan 2018

That Trump’s BMI is 29....no fucking way. That bag of ass is well above that mark...

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
52. Aw...that would be so sad...really. (not really)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:52 AM
Jan 2018

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
53. here is the doctor's report
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jan 2018

75 inches tall = 6ft 2 1/4 in the moron stretches that to 6ft 3in

BP 122/74


https://www.scribd.com/document/369309002/Summary-of-Physical-Exam-for-President-Trump-12-Jan-2018?irgwc=1&content=10079&campaign=Skimbit%2C%20Ltd.&ad_group=35871X943606Xecdcac1a746116dd3b20a59a8435dbe4&keyword=ft750noi&source=impactradius&medium=affiliate#from_embed

He seems fairly healthy for 71, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HIM????

Someone said he takes Ambien, which makes you nuts, but I didn't see it on the report.
Propecia makes you nuts.

progree

(12,975 posts)
57. Thanks! I'll add it to the OP n/t
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:41 AM
Jan 2018

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
59. Locking....
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

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