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[Wwcd]

1. Nice pic Manning. You are a liar & a Gop stooge sellout.

Fraud.

[Jose Garcia]

2. Mental illness may be the explanation for her behavior

[Wwcd]

4. Indeed. Then she is being used.

Glen Greenwald was promoting her in a twitter feed I read. Manning's purpose in joining the political fray was suspicious from that moment on.

[Joediss]

30. Greenwald

These fucking traitor on the left , Greenwald is a sell.out to right , and I use to read his articles a few years ago, I hope these fucking traitor reap what they sow. The fucking congressman that representing where I live down here in the fucking brain wash northeast Texas . He was on Fox news last night with that stupid ass senator.from south Carolina . Getting himself involved in a cover up with all the other ( I guess Russia bots in the republican party) . I hope to fuck that the investigation implicated them in this conspiracy for treason, but I have doubts that.trators like John Ratcliffe will ever pay for what they say or do.

[Hortensis]

50. Far left and right personalities have a great deal in common.

They both despise people who aren't "far," or radical, and often end up against the same people politically.

More, some continue down the extremist path until they end up on the other side, joined in one cause. This time last century, Europe's fascist and commie parties were always trying to seduce each other's people to their side.

As for Manning, there are a whole lot of leakers (and traitors) who never self destruct. When they do as dramatically as, for instance, Manning and Assange, I always wonder if the latest hero could just be some dysfunctional winger throwing out a big symptom.

[DetlefK]

3. There is not much difference between the Alt-Right and Alt-Left.

The Alt-Right considers themselves avant-garde rebels and blames the Jews for all the evil things in the world.
The Alt-Left considers themselves avant-garde rebels and blames the US for all the evil things in the world.

Both are anti-capitalist, except that for the Alt-Right capitalism is code for "jewish bankers control everything".

[Wwcd]

6. + a million.

Describes the 2 clear as day.

[PatrickforO]

10. Not sure this is quite fair.

I don't consider myself 'alt' anything.

And I do not blame the US for all the world's evil; it is the billionaires and big corporations that have created much of the evil with their economic imperialism and exploitation of the third world.

The US does need to come to real terms with a couple of things though - slavery and genocide. These are both parts of our history and until we do confront them as a people, we will continue to have strong undercurrents of racism.

Right now, though, my biggest deal is being part of the resistance, and working to get Dems elected this November so we can impeach and try Cheetoh on treason charges.

THEN, we can argue about capitalism, maybe. We will DEFINITELY argue about universal healthcare.

Have you considered maybe the party is moving a bit to the left?

[DetlefK]

12. If you want to meet the Alt-Left, read the comment-sections of Russia Today.

In the comment-sections of Russia Today:
- The Alt-Right rages how everything is the fault of the Jews.
- The Alt-Left rages about Neonazis in Ukraine but ignores the very real Nazis complaining e.g. how the Jews orchestrated Saudi-Arabia bombing Yemen and stuff like that.

[Joediss]

33. Far right and far left

The far left thinks that old USA is guilty of all of society woes and the fucking right thinks that the USA has never done anything wrong.

[Blue_Tires]

18. +1

[True_Blue]

20. They've gone so far to the left that they've ended up on the right.

[Puzzledtraveller]

39. definitley both see central federal government

as out of bounds, maybe not in size, but as in overstepping it's authority and share the same suspicion of ulterior motives, hidden actors etc..

I think it is healthy to not trust the government, even when our party has control but only as a tool to remain ever critical, but distrust turns into manic conspiracy so that everything can be deemed, not what it is.

[jmowreader]

40. I see the current political spectrum as a circle, not a straight line

At the top are the centrist Dems. They run from 330 degrees to 030 degrees.

From 220 to 330 degrees are Liberals. Most of us are in here somewhere.

200 to 220 degrees finds the Progressives. Bernie Sanders is probably 205 degrees - extremely liberal but there are people more liberal than he.

From 030 to 140 are Conservatives, and the Hard Right (think Alex Jones, most of Trump’s Cabinet) is in the 140 to 160 range.

The Alts run from 160 to 200, and they mingle. Sometimes literally. When Adam Kokesh organized his flash mob inside the Jefferson Memorial, many of the people who were in it were from Medea Benjamin’s Code Pink.

[Irish_Dem]

53. The Alt left is more liberal than the progressives?

What does Alt Left believe in vs Progressives?

I think I am somewhere around 200 degrees or so, very progressive,
but would never ever co mingle with the Right.

[PatrickforO]

5. She's running for the US Senate as a Democrat.

This seems a bit immature to me. So did her 'fear' ad.

[Wwcd]

8. She needs to be vetted, no more usurpers in the Party lineup.

This year is far too critical.
She's already put a giant 'HUH?' over her head.

[karynnj]

31. The voters will vet all the candidates

It is her notoriety that even gives her any news recognition at all. At this point, there is no polling of her vs Ben Cardin. From various polls, Cardin is at around a 50 percent approval rating. I could not find one that included a split on party, but it is highly likely if he is 50% overall, he is above 50% among Democrats. This would suggest that even a "good", well qualified opponent might have trouble beating him in a primary.

I would bet that Manning having her sentence commuted might be significantly less than 50 percent -- and that does NOT mean all those favoring a commuted sentence think he should be elected to office. There is absolutely nothing she has done that would mean she should be elected to the Senate and serious reasons to consider that she should not be.

[marble falls]

7. This tweet says it all...

A few thoughts on Chelsea Manning:

– said both parties are the same
– declares as Dem
– chooses to run against solid Democrat instead of going after Republicans
– hangs out with AltRight/RWNJs

Conclusion: HARD PASS

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) January 21, 2018

[Wwcd]

9. Sounds creepily familiar..BYE Chelsea.

Traitor

[George II]

13. Those four bullets sound very familiar. I'd bet if we were to dig deeper we'd find....

....that Manning is being paid by the Russians, like so many others who meet those criteria and are determined to pit Democrats against Democrats.

Wonder if Manning was introduced to the Russians by Edward Snowden?

[marble falls]

14. Dang George, you ask some deep and good questions. That was one of them. Never occured to me.

[Wwcd]

34. Can only imagine Assange getting his Kremlin paid hands in the middle of this

Assange moved a lot of his hand-crafted & tainted messages to destroy the Democratic Party .

As many people who bought those lies will also take a second look at Manning.
The Kremlin method is to divide & weaken a free society by attacking its strongest liink.
Pitting one against the other.

Why we have the Nazi Party in a majority right now.
Character assasination is the Right's greatest tool

[SHRED]

29. No wonder Greenwald embraces her

[Happyhippychick]

11. Has anyone ever supported this nutcase? I can't STAND her, never have.

She's running for Senate in my Senate and it's being treated as a joke.

[7962]

15. Have you read the DU threads on Manning in the past? PLENTY of big supporters here.

To me, obamas pardon/commutation was a big mistake. Manning is a traitor.

[Happyhippychick]

16. I haven't, she just causes such a visceral reaction in me that I haven't looked.

But I'm not surprised that it's revealed that she is some kind of alt right nut job.

[marble falls]

22. She was a traitor, but Obama did the right thing.

[Puzzledtraveller]

41. be honest

if she was full onboard, and doing the right things, would there be any consternation at all, or just the praise we pretty much have seen on here up until now. The "i don't like you anymore" thing makes us look childish. Not saying that you are that way, but on the surface it seems like we do that a lot. Someone does not meet our expectations 100% and we say "I never liked them anyway".

[7962]

47. NO. For the crime that was committed, I've said jail since the start.

caught hell for my opinion while Wikileaks was making Bush look bad. nobody saw the info would end up being used against HRC, I know I didnt.
Regardless of WHAT side you're on, if I think you're wrong I'll call you on it. And I get called a "right winger" on here because of it every time it happens!

[jberryhill]

55. On DU? Yes, absolutely

I've occasionally found it interesting to ask why, because the answers have always been along the same vague lines that just don't add up.

The first one is "She exposed war crimes" by releasing a video of an incident which was fully investigated, and involved a cameraman for a long lens which was easily mistaken for a weapon within blocks of a hot combat zone. Said "exposed war crimes" added nothing to the incident which had not already been known, and resulted in the prosecution of no one.

The other one is "She exposed US corruption around the world" by an indiscriminate document dump of US State Department communications which, insofar as what was released is concerned, didn't really expose much of anything, but did manage to hurt diplomatic relations by publishing candid opinions of persons in the State Department.

What she did manage to accomplish was to elevate the status of Julian Assange in the brokerage of illicitly obtained materials. Assange has lots of fans here too, and a number of past fans who have gone silent.

[bitterross]

17. Seems as bad, or worse, than Jenner. At least Jenner doesn't hang with Nazis.

I'm curious about Chelsea's background a bit more now. She was born in Oklahoma in a very small town. It wouldn't surprise me at all to know she grew up in a very racist environment. There is a huge majority of the people who enter the service as a last resort to get out of a nowhere place as she may have done. If her home town is like a lot of small, rural places in the USA it was very likely an all-white us-against-them sort of place.

It wouldn't be a big surprise that she turned out to be a racist from a small town who entered the military like for a feeling of power and place.

[Blue_Tires]

19. No two ways about it

Manning is either very naive/stupid, or she knows what she is doing and is actively working against the resistance...

And FWIW, most of the "far left" was 100% okay with this, given how fast they've been spinning this on Twitter

[marble falls]

24. Correct your pronouns, you aren't anti-trans are you? ......

Correct your pronouns, you aren't anti-trans are you? ......


"Manning's excuse that he was "crashing" the "fascist" event to "gather intel" is undermined by a photo of him in December hanging out with ultra-right figures."


Please fix those. It looks bigoted and you don't mean to be a bigot, right? The problem with Manning is her politics, not her gender identity.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

25. Noticed that too?

Yeah. The OP should really fix those.

[marble falls]

26. The poster has done this on other posts, its starting to be irksome to the extreme...

I can't believe I hadn't seen it when I first read the OP.

[Kali]

32. thank you

24 posts before someone called this out. ugh

[marble falls]

65. I just didn't expect to see that crap here and while I read the OP I missed the last two sentences..

I expect a pizza delivery for that poster shortly.

[PdxSean]

27. Why the fury?

Manning just showed her true colors, and they ain’t ours. Such revelations at this stage of the game aren’t just a win, they’re a double-plus WIN.

[kysrsoze]

28. Hmmm... WikiLeaks (Assange), Greenwald, Snowden, Manning... birds of a feather.

Just another traitor masquerading as a whistleblower.

[Wwcd]

36. Yup. And look who its tweeted to. Posobiac & Cassandra Rules.

Rules does the same thing Manning is doing.

She's a far Alt-Left on one day & a far Righty on another.

She goes to bounces between the extreme ends of the political magnat and her mission is to destroy the US govt.

She's like Kremlin Koch's long lost kid.

[Gothmog]

38. Agreed

[TranssexualKaren]

35. I dont think any of you get it.

In my transition I had the door slammed in my face so many times that confrontation came to be a way of life.

Normal people spend their lives avoiding tense situations, transsexuals revel in them.

[Puzzledtraveller]

42. I could see that

reasonable thought, I think once you begin to take it all the way you do learn to weather the storms. I would think we should support those like that. I don't know what to make of much of the reactions. I still support her.

[hack89]

43. We like our senators to be a little more stable and mature than Chelsea

Serious times require serious people.

[TranssexualKaren]

44. Well thats a separate issue,

But at least have the respect not to assume that she is a right wing schill. She did it to confront a wrong, period stop!!!

[hack89]

45. I don't think she is a RW shill.

I just think she is young, immature and in over her head.

[marble falls]

58. The issues with Chelesea Manning is her gender identity, they are about her politics.

[marble falls]

57. I appolgize that some straights just don't get it. Gender ID is personal and should not be judged.

[Gothmog]

37. The far right is pushing this candidate for a reason

[msongs]

46. obama used to hang out with putin and the chinese premier. pics prove it as well nt

[Oneironaut]

49. She* Her*

Could you please use the correct pronouns in the OP?

[demmiblue]

52. +1

[marble falls]

59. I agree with you. Because Fummel will neither aknowlege or correct his mistake, I think its more...

trolling than mistake or misunderstanding.

[RandiFan1290]

60. No mistake

The OP copied and pasted the tweet and then changed the pronouns.

[marble falls]

62. Seriously? Which link, I am so worked up I can't figure out which one that would be.

[RandiFan1290]

63. The tweet in the OP

If you can see the tweet you will see the same text with proper pronouns.

[Freethinker65]

51. Meh. Let Chelsea be Chelsea.

She will get media attention because of who she is. Feel free to scroll down, change the channel, or otherwise ignore her if she upsets you.
If you live in Maryland and support a different candidate for the Democratic nomination to the Senate, consider volunteering.

[EarthFirst]

54. What fucking intel is there to gather?

Every one of them has been exposed (repeatedly) as the vile pieces of shit they are.

So what more “intelligence gathering” needs to be done on this lot?

Enjoy your 15 minutes of post-release fame.

You’ve spent about 11 minutes of it already...

[mcar]

56. When someone shows you who they are...

[Zen Democrat]

61. I now see that Greenwald, Manning, Assange, Snowden, Wikileaks, & Anonymous are Putineers.

[R B Garr]

64. There is an unprincipled Clinton basher with a radio show who has

also been pushing Manning on Democrats, stirring up more false narratives and divisiveness about why Democrats aren't paying for her...."campaign." Such deceptiveness is evil.