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jpak

(41,780 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:02 PM Feb 2018

Kentucky Moves To Add Guns To Schools After School Shooting

Source: NPR

The school shooting in Parkland, Fla., that took 17 lives followed one in rural western Kentucky by three weeks. The Kentucky shooter killed two high school sophomores and injured 18 other people.

In the wake of the tragedy at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky's Republican governor and legislature say they won't consider gun any control proposals. Rather, a measure allowing teachers or staff to carry guns on campus has gained traction.

Republican state Sen. Steve West admits his bill isn't going to stop all school shootings, but he hopes it'll help.

"It increases that kid's chances of surviving. And if there is someone there with a weapon, they will be able to take down the assailant, or at least calm the situation," West said

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Read more: https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/587368514/kentucky-moves-to-add-guns-to-schools-after-school-shooting

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Kentucky Moves To Add Guns To Schools After School Shooting (Original Post) jpak Feb 2018 OP
Of course many many more kids will die before this FILTH is removed from office all over Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
What could possibly go wrong? Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #2
No words for continued corruption & madness. Many said this wouldn't happen. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #3
Incredibly stupid Bayard Feb 2018 #4
What if........................ guillaumeb Feb 2018 #5
What if teacher is trigger happy and shoots another teacher or student they thought a threat ? lunasun Feb 2018 #8
Another example to show how idiotic this idea is. eom guillaumeb Feb 2018 #23
What if the killer shoots the teacher first? subterranean Feb 2018 #13
That is not part of the scenario. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #24
Before any What-ifs- Has a teacher EVER been the perp?? Save it for another site. mpcamb Feb 2018 #17
Seems irrational to discount potential outcomes. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #21
FUCK Republican state Sen. Steve West ... pangaia Feb 2018 #6
Calm? Chellee Feb 2018 #7
I guess Senator West has plans for the teachers PJMcK Feb 2018 #9
they are not getting it Skittles Feb 2018 #10
So will the teachers be armed with AR-15's? YOHABLO Feb 2018 #11
my insane kentucky home Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #12
Didn't I just read that the Kentucky Cha Feb 2018 #18
1 state seat flipped Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #22
🌊🌊🌊 #FlipItBlue #BlueWave2018 riversedge Feb 2018 #14
Thinking back to their school days, heckles65 Feb 2018 #15
"A well regulated militia" Mike Niendorff Feb 2018 #16
More bullets flying won't "calm the situation"! nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #19
Native Kentuckian here negoldie Feb 2018 #20

Eliot Rosewater

(31,600 posts)
1. Of course many many more kids will die before this FILTH is removed from office all over
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:04 PM
Feb 2018

the country.

Even Putin cant stop this movement, maybe. Even he cant get GOP elected after this! I hope.

appalachiablue

(41,691 posts)
3. No words for continued corruption & madness. Many said this wouldn't happen.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

So sad for kids, community and Kentucky...

Bayard

(22,971 posts)
4. Incredibly stupid
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:14 PM
Feb 2018

A SWAT team coming in to that situation will take out anyone holding a gun, including teachers. And a hand gun cannot go up against an assault rifle. Period.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. What if teacher is trigger happy and shoots another teacher or student they thought a threat ?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:36 PM
Feb 2018

Remember Trayvon Martin and many more who did nothing wrong that were pursued and shot

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
24. That is not part of the scenario.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:32 PM
Feb 2018

Gun fantasists insist that every scenario allow for a gun carrying hero.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Seems irrational to discount potential outcomes.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:01 PM
Feb 2018

Seems irrational to discount potential outcomes unless we have objective evidence to deny that possibility.

Seems that same irrational behavior would be most welcome at "another site..."

(six of one, half a dozen of the other)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. FUCK Republican state Sen. Steve West ...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:16 PM
Feb 2018


Now I can finish my dinner.

We're trying to unseat fucking chris collins up here...

ugh!!!!!!!!

Chellee

(2,124 posts)
7. Calm?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:24 PM
Feb 2018

Calm the situation.

Oh yeah, absolutely. More guns is certainly the answer to providing more calmness in these situations.

PJMcK

(22,240 posts)
9. I guess Senator West has plans for the teachers
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:42 PM
Feb 2018

I'm sure Kentucky will buy the weapons and ammunition for the teachers.

No doubt, the state will pay for the training and continuing education with the weapons.

Of course, the state will pay for whatever liability insurance the teachers will have to carry.

However, in the event of an active shooter situation, how will the police know who are the "good guys with guns?"

This is stupid. Teachers are not guards. That's not their job! Do these parents really want armed weapons in their children's classrooms?

If Kentucky thinks they need more security, get professionals trained for the job. And pay for it.

Of course, since the governor and legislature refuse to consider any gun controls, nothing will change.

After massacre upon massacre, doing nothing is another form of insanity.

Skittles

(155,021 posts)
10. they are not getting it
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:47 PM
Feb 2018

people are SICK TO DEATH OF GUN HUMPERS AND GUN HUMPER LOGIC

FUCK THESE COWARDS

Hermit-The-Prog

(35,138 posts)
12. my insane kentucky home
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:53 PM
Feb 2018

Shield yourselves. Whatever it is here might spread to your home state. RWNJ is a real and serious disease.

Crazy Bevins would undoubtedly sign the thing if that bill lands on his desk.

My son teaches.

Cha

(300,832 posts)
18. Didn't I just read that the Kentucky
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:12 AM
Feb 2018

state house flipped Blue?

This sounds like a potential disaster waiting to happen.. if implemented.

Hope your son and everyone is safe, Hermit.. it must be awful now working and going to school, knowing it could happen anywhere at anytime.

Hermit-The-Prog

(35,138 posts)
22. 1 state seat flipped
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

It was 1 state seat flipped from red to blue. Formerly occupied by a real nutjob:

http://longcon.kycir.org/#chapter-one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/14/a-lawmaker-accused-of-molesting-a-teen-killed-himself-his-widow-calls-it-a-high-tech-lynching/?utm_term=.eb6ab52b6f59

That first link takes you to a novel's worth of investigative reporting that did him in. Hollyweird couldn't match such a story.

The attempt to arm teachers or install armed guards in schools seems to be the latest push by the NRA -- 'more guns will solve everything'. It's insane. The answer to objectionable speech may be more speech, but the answer to too many military weapons in civilian hands is not more weapons.

This is a rural area, near wilderness, so nearly every home has multiple hunting guns (rifles and shotguns). That actually comforts. It is rare and noticeable when a semi-automatic weapon is discharged.

My son teaches in "middle school". Hopefully, those kids don't have access to AR-15s and haven't yet been subjected to enough bullying, disaffection, and alt-nut indoctrination to decide to play the role of lone destroyer.

heckles65

(571 posts)
15. Thinking back to their school days,
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:31 PM
Feb 2018

can anyone else remember when a teacher just "lost it?" I can remember three times - once in grade school, twice in high school - where a teacher assaulted a student or students. Is it possible some teacher might take it to the next step?

And then I think of my eighth grade teacher, an old, unintelligent woman who had no business teaching. Really want to put a gun in the desk of someone like her, where it will be the focus of the students' thoughts, even if she forgets it's there?

Mike Niendorff

(3,499 posts)
16. "A well regulated militia"
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:45 PM
Feb 2018

If we need to arm teachers to prevent our "well regulated militia" from slaughtering children in our schools -- this is neither a "militia" nor "well regulated".

Just saying.


MDN

negoldie

(198 posts)
20. Native Kentuckian here
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:19 AM
Feb 2018

If there was a break outbreak of std's in our schools I guess my dumbass legislature would vote to have the kids engage in more unprotected sex. I weep for my Commonwealth.

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