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swag

(26,487 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:49 PM Feb 2018

Kushner loses access to top-secret intelligence

Source: Politico

Presidential son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner has had his security clearance downgraded — a move that will prevent him from viewing many of the sensitive documents to which he once had unfettered access.

Kushner is not alone. All White House aides working on the highest-level interim clearances — at the Top Secret/SCI-level — were informed in a memo sent Friday that their clearances would be downgraded to the Secret level, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.

The SCI acronym stands for sensitive compartmentalized information, a category of information that comes from sensitive intelligence sources and must be walled off.

The memo was not signed by chief of staff John Kelly, but it comes as the retired Marine general and other top White House aides are grappling with the fallout of a scandal involving former White House staff secretary Rob Porter, which revealed that dozens of White House aides had yet to receive permanent clearances but nonetheless had access to some of the country’s deepest secrets.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/27/jared-kushner-security-clearance-downgrade-427178

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Kushner loses access to top-secret intelligence (Original Post) swag Feb 2018 OP
The only thing Kushner should have access to NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #1
About freaking time YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #2
So what is Kushner going to sell to pay off the building now? rurallib Feb 2018 #3
China Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #5
Are you talking about the China that Nancy Reagan picked out? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2018 #28
China and Saudi Money. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #29
Yeah Gothmog Feb 2018 #4
The White House copy paper bill should go down substantially now jmowreader Feb 2018 #6
tRump will manage Scarsdale Feb 2018 #59
Too late now BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #7
"Locking the barn door"...too late! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #21
Exactamundo! BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #35
And just how many escorts Plucketeer Feb 2018 #62
Hell, Devin Nunes probably sends all the material the intelligence committee gets dhol82 Feb 2018 #39
Or gives it to Rohrabacher BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #44
Is any thinking person in doubt that this country is infested with traitors?f dhol82 Feb 2018 #48
SECRET is pretty much useless lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #8
Its like seeing only the title of book djacq Feb 2018 #16
Not if your father in law can grant you access without legal repercussions cungar2000 Feb 2018 #22
Just as useless as jared and ivanka are, BUT donald doesnt give one bit about rules........... Old Vet Feb 2018 #31
Well not completely charliea Feb 2018 #33
Right; it gets you past the guard shack but not into the SCIF. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #61
I had a Secret clearance when I was 20 NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #37
About f-ing time! ffr Feb 2018 #9
doesnt huckabee sanders also have a baby clearance? samnsara Feb 2018 #10
Trump will make sure Jarvanka still gets all the classified info that he sees. Autumn Feb 2018 #11
I'm surprised he doesn't tweet everything classified to the bots FakeNoose Feb 2018 #14
His hands are too tiny for that much typing to occur. Ligyron Feb 2018 #23
I prefer the couples name IvanRed underpants Feb 2018 #15
That was my first thought, as well. n/t demmiblue Feb 2018 #17
Does Ivanka have top secret clearance? pnwmom Feb 2018 #12
She doesn't really need one... She's family. keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #50
Well GREAT! There goes peace in the Middle East underpants Feb 2018 #13
I'll bet Israel's access to American top secret info.... magicarpet Feb 2018 #24
The Israelis are hesitant to share their intelligence with us dhol82 Feb 2018 #40
Thats what I heard too, 82: Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #43
Us top secret access via Kushner..... magicarpet Feb 2018 #45
Yeah, that is the way the intelligence goes - out of the US dhol82 Feb 2018 #49
Never should have had it in the first place. George II Feb 2018 #18
DADDY! He took away my Secret Agent Decoder Ring! brooklynite Feb 2018 #19
Kushner's new West Wing job.... magicarpet Feb 2018 #20
Awwwww, sounds like a job for the sad trombone. calimary Feb 2018 #25
Here you go. Check out the image behind the play button underpants Feb 2018 #30
O. M. G. !!! calimary Feb 2018 #57
And trumpdonald.org area51 Feb 2018 #58
Dear Jared and Ivanka. Go home! question everything Feb 2018 #26
so, do they lose their little scif devices? getagrip_already Feb 2018 #27
Not buying this bullshit Generic Brad Feb 2018 #32
Maybe PJMcK Feb 2018 #36
SWEEEEET!!!! PJMcK Feb 2018 #34
His daddy in law will let him see his daily brief. panader0 Feb 2018 #38
Thats what Im thinking too, 0 ...unless LOSER45 is being fed bogus info in the first Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #47
That there was an iota of chance that that charlatan would be privy... ailsagirl Feb 2018 #41
When you are cleared "Secret" orangecrush Feb 2018 #42
Well, this doesn't change a thing LittleGirl Feb 2018 #46
Agreed. The only thing that's maybe changed is no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #51
Now.... floWteiuQ Feb 2018 #52
Who believes that 45 won't still share? Not me. bitterross Feb 2018 #53
My Guess is this Weasel will Find a Way Around his Loss of Security Clearance dlk Feb 2018 #54
I had a TS Special Intel/Crypto in Vietnam .. DemoTex Feb 2018 #55
Kush can't see any top secret info. unless ashling Feb 2018 #56
Lock them up! ... or maybe Puzzler Feb 2018 #60

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. About freaking time
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:54 PM
Feb 2018

If you appoint a bunch of criminals to your staff, they will have problems getting security clearances.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
28. Are you talking about the China that Nancy Reagan picked out?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:42 PM
Feb 2018

The White House has some very nice China. Silverware, too. Kushner could make a nice profit selling it on eBay.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. China and Saudi Money.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:49 PM
Feb 2018

The Saudi's have been players via Trump. China has been circling these so called projects. Why pay full price when you can buy at a discount.

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
6. The White House copy paper bill should go down substantially now
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:59 PM
Feb 2018

Trump's KGB handlers can't be happy about this. How will they get their Double Secret information now?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
59. tRump will manage
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 08:34 AM
Feb 2018

to keep his Russian buds informed some way. Maybe send his "not so secret weapon" the beautiful (yeah, right) Ivanka to hand deliver the information.

BumRushDaShow

(129,293 posts)
7. Too late now
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:03 PM
Feb 2018

They probably got most of what they needed while Drumpf continually invites Russian spies into the Oval Office - I expect with Rob Porter's folders out for them to rifle through.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
62. And just how many escorts
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

follow junior around all day - to insure his eyes don't happen to see things he shouldn't?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
39. Hell, Devin Nunes probably sends all the material the intelligence committee gets
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:58 PM
Feb 2018

directly to the kremlin.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
48. Is any thinking person in doubt that this country is infested with traitors?f
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:15 PM
Feb 2018

How can that 35% of idiots still agree with this treasonous cabal?

 

cungar2000

(98 posts)
22. Not if your father in law can grant you access without legal repercussions
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:22 PM
Feb 2018

Yes we've created a system that lets these con artists flourish in the highest office in the land.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
31. Just as useless as jared and ivanka are, BUT donald doesnt give one bit about rules...........
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:50 PM
Feb 2018

Rules are for the little guys only, If anyone thinks jared is gonna be affected by this decision Theres a bridge in Brooklyn for sale......

charliea

(260 posts)
33. Well not completely
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:07 PM
Feb 2018

I've got one for my last job, it was a requirement to access a Marine data facility. Much less scrutiny than some other clearances I've gotten. Just basic finger printing and a background check. Didn't have to use it though, it was a hurry up job and clearance took so long they found another consultant who was already cleared...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
61. Right; it gets you past the guard shack but not into the SCIF.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:05 AM
Feb 2018

And it certainly doesn't let you work on anything sensitive.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. I had a Secret clearance when I was 20
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:37 PM
Feb 2018

I was basically a secretary. I couldn't see anything much; it was just that I was working for a defense contractor.

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
14. I'm surprised he doesn't tweet everything classified to the bots
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:13 PM
Feb 2018

Sooner or later, it's going to happen.

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
24. I'll bet Israel's access to American top secret info....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

... takes a major dent and dive. Now that Jared is not able to back channel America's top super top secret stuff daily and directly to Netanyahu.

I wonder what price tag and gains Jared realized from those transactions while he had no questions asked unfettered access ?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
40. The Israelis are hesitant to share their intelligence with us
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:00 PM
Feb 2018

We have traitors in the White House that give it up too easily.

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
45. Us top secret access via Kushner.....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:30 PM
Feb 2018

(snip)

Among those nations discussing ways to influence Kushner to their advantage were the United Arab Emirates, China, Israel and Mexico, the current and former officials said.

(end snip - more at link)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141999566

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
49. Yeah, that is the way the intelligence goes - out of the US
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:18 PM
Feb 2018

Kushner is such a brainless idiot that he doesn’t even realize that he is sharing state secrets.

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
20. Kushner's new West Wing job....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:19 PM
Feb 2018

.... West Wing janitor - assignment to daily collect all the West Wing office top secret burn bags and take them to deposit in the incinerator.

Of course he passes 20 photo copy machines as he collects these top secret burn bags. And he is a very enterprising young man always out to make a quick buck.

question everything

(47,517 posts)
26. Dear Jared and Ivanka. Go home!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:35 PM
Feb 2018

You had your fun, you traveled the globe, now go home. You clearly are misplaced where you are now - not that it ever stopped hundreds of Washingtonians - now go back home, to your family, to your friends. Resume your former life. You did have one, right?

getagrip_already

(14,816 posts)
27. so, do they lose their little scif devices?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:39 PM
Feb 2018

I'll bet they have scif comm gear to talk ever so secretly amongst themselves........

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
32. Not buying this bullshit
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

The way Trump flouts the rules - he will simply ask for the top secret information Kushner is peddling for himself and hand it over to Jared. The most distressing thing about this for Trump is that this will feel like work to him.

PJMcK

(22,039 posts)
36. Maybe
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:33 PM
Feb 2018

But if your scenario happened, someone else would leak it and it would be a huge noise.

I think Trump has thrown Jared under the wheels of the bus. He delegated Kushner's security clearance to his deputy, Chief-of-Staff Kelly and said that he had confidence Kelly would make the right decision. Wouldn't it be fun to hear the conversations between Trump, Ivanka and Jared?!

You know, Kelly told Trump they had to tighten the ship with regards to the vast number of interim security clearances. The bleeding from the Rob Porter scandal had to be stanched.

Another example of this leaking vessel is the White House Counsel, Don McGahn, who doesn't have a permanent clearance! Neither does Huckabee Sanders. What the hell? These people have access to the most secret stuff in the world but they could be compromised?!

Yeah, Trump brought in the best people.

PJMcK

(22,039 posts)
34. SWEEEEET!!!!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Feb 2018

Think of it: Trump said that he was going to let his chief of staff make the decision if Kushner should retain his security clearance. He also said that Kelly would make the right decision.

Trump just threw Kushner under the bus.

The fun's starting to get real.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
38. His daddy in law will let him see his daily brief.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:39 PM
Feb 2018

Hell, Trump probably needs Jared to read it to him. This is more about the
visual than the substance.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
47. Thats what Im thinking too, 0 ...unless LOSER45 is being fed bogus info in the first
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:38 PM
Feb 2018

place?? Welp, I surely don’t know

Ah, what’ll we do, what’ll we do

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
41. That there was an iota of chance that that charlatan would be privy...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:04 PM
Feb 2018

to top-secret intelligence simply boggles the mind

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
46. Well, this doesn't change a thing
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:35 PM
Feb 2018

because seriously, who is going to make sure that those top secret things don't get shared in his presence (Jared)?
Nobody is going to. The whole dump family knows all of our secrets and we're fucked anyway.

no_hypocrisy

(46,150 posts)
51. Agreed. The only thing that's maybe changed is
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 09:39 PM
Feb 2018

Kushner can't be seen publicly negotiating foreign treaties or participating in foreign affairs.

All he can do is explain big words to his FIL, if that.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
53. Who believes that 45 won't still share? Not me.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:53 PM
Feb 2018

I don't believe for a minute this makes a bit of difference.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
54. My Guess is this Weasel will Find a Way Around his Loss of Security Clearance
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 11:23 PM
Feb 2018

He still has a humongous loan coming due on his building on Park.

DemoTex

(25,400 posts)
55. I had a TS Special Intel/Crypto in Vietnam ..
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 11:46 PM
Feb 2018

Had that been pulled, I would have been burning shit with JP-4 for the rest of my tour .. even as an officer.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
60. Lock them up! ... or maybe
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:18 AM
Feb 2018

that only applies to HRC in the Orwellian world of the Republic Party and their supporters.

Oops, did I accidentally type “Republic Party” ... my mistake, ever so sorry

-Puzzler

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