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WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:45 PM Aug 2012

Cheryl Chow calls life in closet a "waste"

Source: My Northwest.com

Cheryl Chow has a legacy of service to Seattle. But the former teacher, principal, Seattle City Council member and School Board member says the past 60 years have been a waste because she couldn't come out as a gay woman.

"Parents and kids, don't be afraid of saying that you're gay. I was afraid for over 60 years and those 60 years were wasted," she told KING 5.

Read more: http://mynorthwest.com/11/726132/Cheryl-Chow-calls-life-in-closet-a-waste



Cheryl's mother, Ruby Chow, was a powerhouse in Seattle politics for a generation. I'm sure Cheryl felt tremendous pressure to not bring "shame" on the family. It's sad to think that in 2012 millions of American's are struggling with the same BS that Cheryl was dealing with 30-40 years ago.
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Cheryl Chow calls life in closet a "waste" (Original Post) WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 OP
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #1
how sad cali Aug 2012 #2
The public certainly doesn't consider her life wasted; she contributes so much to the city and its WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #4
Never been to Seattle but I always heard it was pretty Progressive n/t Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #3
Lots of progressive places become less so if you're in the wrong group. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #6
+1000. closeupready Aug 2012 #11
It is. I encourage anyone living in an area that may not be welcoming to consider moving to WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #7
Wow. Whuddathunk? mntleo2 Aug 2012 #5
Seriously, though...you couldn't come out thirty years ago as you can today. Atman Aug 2012 #8
Absolutely. The fact that the nation collectively yawned when Anderson Cooper came out, WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #9
Oh, now you've done it! Now I've got to find the DU thread from when Cooper came out rocktivity Aug 2012 #15
I think because AC was like the worst-kept secret on Earth Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #21
This is an important point. If everything happens for a reason, closeupready Aug 2012 #14
"I can't imagine why I thought being out would be harder than being in." rocktivity Aug 2012 #10
In most parts of the country there is still a high price to pay professionally for being out. For WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #13
That's what I heard from my landlord here in New York years ago - closeupready Aug 2012 #17
Oregon's a big place maxsolomon Aug 2012 #19
UPDATE: According to Stephanie Miller's "Sexy Liberal Tour" doumentary on Current rocktivity Sep 2012 #23
As a mother of a gay child, this issue hits close to home for me. When my daughter came out to me, Emit Aug 2012 #12
Right on - you should host online parenting classes! Why any parent would want their child WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #16
Bless you. You are a good mother! yardwork Sep 2012 #25
I read that as Sheryl Crow dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #18
+1 crimson77 Aug 2012 #20
HA! Your not the only one Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Aug 2012 #22
Me too. truthisfreedom Sep 2012 #24
Me too, and the reference to AC above i thought was alice cooper. loli phabay Sep 2012 #26
Same here! TlalocW Sep 2012 #27

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
4. The public certainly doesn't consider her life wasted; she contributes so much to the city and its
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

citizens. Cheryl is a very wonderful and giving person.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
7. It is. I encourage anyone living in an area that may not be welcoming to consider moving to
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

Seattle. Seattle is a highly educated city; human sexuality does not frighten most citizens.

mntleo2

(2,637 posts)
5. Wow. Whuddathunk?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

I know Cheryl and she is a good person who "gets it" about things like poverty after being raised pretty privileged. As an activist for people in poverty, Cheryl was one of the main "go to" people for many of us trying to raise awareness of what is happening in the low income community right under (purposefully ignorant) Seattleite's noses. Now I understand why! I loves me some Cheryl!

Cat in Seattle, board member of People Organizing for Welfare and Economic Rights ( POWER) . We were the old Welfare Rights Organizing Coalition, WROC up on Cap Hill and are now based in Oly but do a lot of poverty work here in Seattle as well.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. Seriously, though...you couldn't come out thirty years ago as you can today.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:22 PM
Aug 2012

It wasn't a "waste." It was by necessity. Sure, maybe it would have progressed LGBT issues sooner if more people had come out, but it was not the proper climate. Now, in spite of the heinous Right Wing, coming out is not considered a big deal...unless your dad is a GOP Congressman or prominent GOP businessman. But thirty years ago, it was a whole different world.

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WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
9. Absolutely. The fact that the nation collectively yawned when Anderson Cooper came out,
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

spoke volumes about how far we've progressed since the late 1960's. There is still a long ways to go however, for millions of gay and lesbian American's stuck between the two coasts.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
15. Oh, now you've done it! Now I've got to find the DU thread from when Cooper came out
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:54 PM
Aug 2012

While a nation yawned, DU-ers snored!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002891459


rocktivity

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
21. I think because AC was like the worst-kept secret on Earth
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:43 PM
Aug 2012

But I confess I didn't know...

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
14. This is an important point. If everything happens for a reason,
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:49 PM
Aug 2012

there was a reason (and good ones) why gay people stayed in the closet years ago - because to come out entailed so many huge personal costs.

While everyone who is in their later years wishes to be remembered as Mother Teresa, Cheryl didn't need to come out in order to achieve some semblance of Saint Teresa's record - she did it in other ways.

The fact that she came out now is icing on the cake, IMO, and shout-out to her here!

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
10. "I can't imagine why I thought being out would be harder than being in."
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:37 PM
Aug 2012

That's what a gay co-worker told me.

I've tried to assure myself that if I were gay, I wouldn't spend a second of it in the closet. I'd be brave enough; I'd stand up to my family and risk losing friends and jobs. Tough talk indeed, but I also know that if it really were that simple, everyone would be out.

I'm so glad I was listening the day Stephanie Miller came out -- all she said was "I'm a gay lady," and when not fielding congratulatory phone calls, simply continued with her show. Maybe I should have had a clue when she was named grand marshal for a gay pride parade, but I thought it had simply been her reward for being so gay-supportive while playing the role of a desperate, frustrated, aging spinster.

Maybe, like my co-worker, Stephanie got to the point where being out HAD to be easier, regardless of the personal and professional consequences. At any rate, if SHE was too afraid for so long, then I guess ANYBODY can be.


rocktivity

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
13. In most parts of the country there is still a high price to pay professionally for being out. For
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
Aug 2012

some reason the medical and legal professions are particularly homophobic. And make no mistake; Seattle is an island of sanity in regards to human sexuality. In almost every other part of Washington State it's still not easy being out. You don't have to drive far outside the city limits either - 20 miles in any direction and you'll arrive in areas that are far less welcoming to gays and lesbians. Those areas may not be openly hostile to gays and lesbians as they were 20 years ago; but they're a far cry from Seattle.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. That's what I heard from my landlord here in New York years ago -
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:59 PM
Aug 2012

he and his partner were talking with me and my partner over a brunch, and they told us about a former tenant of theirs who was from Oregon, and apparently, as this tenant related, Oregon can be a really homophobic place.

As someone who has little connection of any kind to the Pacific Northwest, I found that shocking, as Seattle was supposedly so countercultural and grunge-y and 'drugs, sex & rock& roll' sort of place.

On the other hand, as someone upthread states, all kinds of progressive places become less progressive to you personally if you become recognizably a member of hated minority groups.

maxsolomon

(38,653 posts)
19. Oregon's a big place
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:22 PM
Aug 2012

And the S part of the state along i-5 (Medford, Grants Pass) is very conservative. Portland tips the scales.

rocktivity

(45,006 posts)
23. UPDATE: According to Stephanie Miller's "Sexy Liberal Tour" doumentary on Current
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:39 PM
Sep 2012

She said she'd gotten to the point where "cheering from the sidelines" for was no longer enough -- it was time for her to "get down on the field."



rocktivity

Emit

(11,239 posts)
12. As a mother of a gay child, this issue hits close to home for me. When my daughter came out to me,
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
Aug 2012

to our family and to the world, I celebrated her being every step of the way and I still do. I never, ever want my daughter to feel she has to hide who she is.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
16. Right on - you should host online parenting classes! Why any parent would want their child
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:55 PM
Aug 2012

to pretend to be someone they're not, is crazy.

"Don't lie, cheat or steal; but it's okay to lie about who you are."

What kind of messed up parenting is that?!

22. HA! Your not the only one
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:21 PM
Aug 2012

I kept reading and something just didn't seem right. I mean, Sheryl Crow 60?!? Where did the times go? Then you pointed it out.

Now I feel dipsydoodle

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