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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:21 PM Apr 2018

Republicans hold on to Arizona House seat

Source: The Hill

Republican Debbie Lesko is projected to win Arizona’s nationally watched special election, fending off a strong challenge from Democrats who have been over-performing in deep-red seats.

Lesko, a former state senator, defeated Democrat Hiral Tipirneni, a former emergency room doctor and first-time candidate, on Tuesday night in a solidly Republican district that President Trump won by 21 points in 2016.

Tuesday’s special election was triggered by the resignation of GOP Rep. Trent Franks, who stepped down in December after allegedly asking a staffer to carry his child. Lesko will serve out the remainder of Franks’s term, and is expected to run again in November for a full two-year term.

Republicans were expected to hang onto the GOP stronghold, but national groups took a more cautious approach after a major Democratic upset in last month’s Pennsylvania special election.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/384654-republicans-hold-on-to-arizona-house-seat

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Republicans hold on to Arizona House seat (Original Post) Julian Englis Apr 2018 OP
It wasn't a normal puke blowout by any stretch. mobeau69 Apr 2018 #1
And the Repub candidate wasn't even a pedophile or Hortensis Apr 2018 #32
By a few percent in a district that Trump took by 20? The Mouth Apr 2018 #2
21 mobeau69 Apr 2018 #15
Looking on the bright side of life tirebiter Apr 2018 #3
Wow! 40th pickup, and it's not even the midterms yet. Hortensis Apr 2018 #31
They aren't going to last forever. They don't own Arizona, no matter what they have thought. Judi Lynn Apr 2018 #4
Steve Kornacki says MSNBC is NOT yet calling this race. spooky3 Apr 2018 #5
I heard a lot of mail ballots haven't been counted left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #7
All that's been released are the early, mailed ballots DeminPennswoods Apr 2018 #8
Thanks. Fingers crossed for single digits. spooky3 Apr 2018 #10
Bad news. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #6
Actually, it's bad news for the GOP jmowreader Apr 2018 #11
Not mostly rural. 30 years ago it was. marybourg Apr 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author oberliner Apr 2018 #18
A Pyrrhic victory for the GOP. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2018 #9
Thanks for posting this! BlueMTexpat Apr 2018 #13
Gabby Giffords won here in 2006, 2008, and 2010 oberliner Apr 2018 #17
I think Gabby was Tucson and Pima county? padfun Apr 2018 #19
Retirement people vote for the very Party that wants to GUT Medicare?? Bengus81 Apr 2018 #25
The boundaries are completely different. Franks won after the 2010 redistricting. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #21
Thanks for the info (and same to the other respondent) oberliner Apr 2018 #23
"Hard to keep track" - Ain't that the truth! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #30
Agent O reporting for duty Loki Liesmith Apr 2018 #26
Note my correction above oberliner Apr 2018 #27
Yes and right on time. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #28
Currently Lesko 52.6, Tipirneni 47.4, according to Kornacki. Same-day votes included. Still highplainsdem Apr 2018 #12
This district was held by a Democrat from 2007 - 2013 oberliner Apr 2018 #16
Different Area padfun Apr 2018 #20
Included the different maps in an earlier post but including here as well BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #22
Thanks for pointing that out oberliner Apr 2018 #24
A lot of old white folks who watch Fox all day in their recliners kimbutgar Apr 2018 #29

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. And the Repub candidate wasn't even a pedophile or
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:10 PM
Apr 2018

facing indictment for corruption. She was an ordinary Republican candidate who didn't do well at all in Sheriff Arpaio's district against a foreign-born Democratic opponent, another woman with a foreign name.

Oh, and the Republican Party outspent the Democratic Party in this special election for a temporary seat by $1 million to 0. (The contributions to our Democratic candidate were all from individuals and Democratic groups.)

Cook report says there are 147 GOP-held House seats less red than this district. Lesko now has to run all over again to keep the seat in November, but even having 78,000 more registered voters than the Democrats doesn't make it a sure thing at all.

tirebiter

(2,535 posts)
3. Looking on the bright side of life
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:35 PM
Apr 2018

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Woohoo! With tonight's 59-41 win in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NYAD10?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NYAD10</a>, Democrats flip their 40th legislative seat of the cycle! <a href="https://t.co/pc9BxO9DZI">https://t.co/pc9BxO9DZI</a></p>— Daily Kos Elections (@DKElections) <a href="


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
4. They aren't going to last forever. They don't own Arizona, no matter what they have thought.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:38 PM
Apr 2018

Their time to fade into the background is on its way.

The world is so sick of fascists. They are in their death throes even as we post. The information regarding how they behave when they have power isn't going to die with the generations, now that we have ways of preserving great records forever! They have always relied on the fact their victims either die right away or soon, and the new people born won't remember how bad it was, while the greedy, slimy next generation maggots kept the disease, evil, and greed alive.

All that is changing. Dirtbags will be going down!

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
5. Steve Kornacki says MSNBC is NOT yet calling this race.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:46 PM
Apr 2018

It's currently 53% Lesko. He's now explaining that there are a lot of outstanding ballots, etc., but that it would be VERY difficult for Tipirneni to make up the difference.

Even if it ends up this way, that is an outstanding Dem performance in a very red district!

"If you are a Republican, you should be very nervous!"

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
8. All that's been released are the early, mailed ballots
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:16 AM
Apr 2018

It's about 74% of the vote, but Kornacki said none of the early ballots that were turned today or the actual election day vote has been counted/released. He estimated those numbers at 15-16k and 19k respectively. If those estimates are close, Tipirneni would need about 2/3s to win. It's a long shot, though.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
11. Actually, it's bad news for the GOP
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 01:44 AM
Apr 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/special-election-results/arizona/?utm_term=.6bd1b2671100

The district is mostly rural and packed with senior citizens - perfect GOP country.

The suburban precincts swung Democratic by 15 points - Trump +18, Lesko +3.
The rural precincts did worse: Trump +31, Lesko +13, swing blue +18.

From the looks of this, the GOP has a harder task in November than we do. They are counting on big pickups of Democratic seats so as to give Trump a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and a solid majority in the House. Right now, I'd say they are going to be extremely lucky to come out of this with a Senate majority - remember, they lose three seats and the Trump agenda is dead - and there's a non-zero chance the whole Congress flips.

Response to jmowreader (Reply #11)

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
9. A Pyrrhic victory for the GOP. . .
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:19 AM
Apr 2018

. . .from Salon's perspective. . .

https://www.salon.com/2018/04/24/democrats-probably-wont-win-arizonas-special-election-but-the-gops-still-in-trouble/

(boldface emphasis is mine - DMH)

(snip)
Nearly everyone in politics expects Lesko to defeat Tipirneni, but they'll be paying close attention to her margin of victory. However Republicans choose to spin this, the fact is that anything less than a 10 percent edge will smell like an impending November disaster for the GOP.

Arizona may well have two Senate races in November, with Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema apparently leading in the race to replace retiring Republican Jeff Flake, and Sen. John McCain's health very much in question. If Lesko's margin on Tuesday is in the single digits, watch out for even more GOP retirements, and a widening sense that even states they thought were under control are starting to slip away.

(snip)

padfun

(1,786 posts)
19. I think Gabby was Tucson and Pima county?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:21 AM
Apr 2018

This is West Phoenix and Glendale.

This area is Sun City Retirement people.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
25. Retirement people vote for the very Party that wants to GUT Medicare??
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:51 AM
Apr 2018

And no doubt suck the life out of social security. What the FUCK is wrong with people?? What...it HAS to happen before they get mad enough to vote their best interests? Hate to tell em but by then it's TOO LATE.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
21. The boundaries are completely different. Franks won after the 2010 redistricting.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:37 AM
Apr 2018
AZ-8 PRE-2012 - (Gabby Giffords)



AZ-8 POST-2012 - (Trent Franks)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Thanks for the info (and same to the other respondent)
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:06 AM
Apr 2018

Hard to keep track with all the re-districting going on.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
26. Agent O reporting for duty
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:00 AM
Apr 2018

The only question I have is whether or not you are willfully understating the significance of the democratic swing in this district, or if you just don’t understand it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. Note my correction above
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:27 AM
Apr 2018

Did not realize the redistricting change. Mea culpa for the ignorance on my part.

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
12. Currently Lesko 52.6, Tipirneni 47.4, according to Kornacki. Same-day votes included. Still
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 01:56 AM
Apr 2018

not quite 10,000 uncounted early votes, early ballots that arrived by mail or were dropped off in-person today. Those won't be counted till tomorrow.

So a 5-point margin, where Trump won by 21. NOT good news for the GOP.

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki

padfun

(1,786 posts)
20. Different Area
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:24 AM
Apr 2018

"After redistricting for the 2012 general election, the new 8th district encompasses most of the Maricopa County portion of the old 2nd district, while most of the former 8th district became the 2nd congressional district.[3] It is the geographic and demographic successor of the old 2nd; while the 4th district contains most of the old 2nd's land, more than 92 percent of the old 2nd's constituents were drawn into the 8th.[4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona%27s_8th_congressional_district

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
22. Included the different maps in an earlier post but including here as well
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 06:38 AM
Apr 2018
AZ-8 PRE-2012 - (Gabby Giffords)



AZ-8 POST-2012 - (Trent Franks)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Thanks for pointing that out
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 08:07 AM
Apr 2018

Redistricting always throws things off for me when I try to keep track of this sort of thing. Appreciate the info!

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
29. A lot of old white folks who watch Fox all day in their recliners
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:53 AM
Apr 2018

Been in that district, tea party central, lot of Twitler signs during the election and they have the time to vote.

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