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Ukrainian Yankee

(89 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:45 PM Apr 2018

House chaplain forced out by Ryan

Source: Hill

04/26/18 02:16 PM EDT

House Chaplain Patrick Conroy’s sudden resignation has sparked a furor on Capitol Hill, with sources in both parties saying he was pushed out by Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

Conroy’s own resignation announcement stated that it was done at Ryan’s request.

“As you have requested, I hereby offer my resignation as the 60th Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives,” the April 15 letter to Ryan, obtained by The Hill, states.
Through his office, Conroy, who has served as chaplain since 2011, declined to comment on Thursday. His resignation is effective May 24.

Four different sources — two from each party — say Conroy was told that he must retire or that he would be dismissed.

The message from Ryan was delivered by his chief of staff, Jonathan Burks.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385035-house-chaplain-forced-out-by-ryan



I can't really blame Ryan for this. The crucifixes, the holy water, the biblical imprecations against Satan were really fucking him up.
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House chaplain forced out by Ryan (Original Post) Ukrainian Yankee Apr 2018 OP
The chaplain might have been fixing to do an exorcism, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #1
Disappointing that they need a chaplain in the first place. 3Hotdogs Apr 2018 #2
He is their official sender of thoughts and prauers BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #4
I agree. nt tazkcmo Apr 2018 #5
Separation of church and state turbinetree Apr 2018 #3
Yeah, but that ain't why. Iggo Apr 2018 #11
Dear Jesus, 3Hotdogs Apr 2018 #6
What did he do? truthisfreedom Apr 2018 #7
The article says Dems say Ryan didn't like a prayer critical of the tax bill pnwmom Apr 2018 #23
Holy moly! Renew Deal Apr 2018 #8
It was that 1%-favoring tax bill, at least in part, that prompted Ryan's decision to fire him RVN VET71 Apr 2018 #9
+100 for APRON SAINT The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #10
mixing church and state never works out well. samnsara Apr 2018 #12
This prevents Ryan from flinching whenever a Holy Symbol is near. nt Maine-i-acs Apr 2018 #13
Was he about to leftynyc Apr 2018 #14
Maybe the next one will be a non-Christian? rurallib Apr 2018 #15
Or an atheist? NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #16
who might encourage members to think rurallib Apr 2018 #17
lets see what perverse nutjob is brought in the replace him...trump the official religion? dembotoz Apr 2018 #18
Paul Ryan only has one God, and His name is Donald Trump. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2018 #19
Dont forget Ayn Rand. LakeArenal Apr 2018 #20
Beat me to it! Heartstrings Apr 2018 #22
Haha. 🐥🐣🐤 LakeArenal Apr 2018 #24
I was trying to do just that. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2018 #25
Sorry to bring up the horror. LakeArenal Apr 2018 #26
Ryan didn't like a prayer that appeared to be critical of the tax bill, pnwmom Apr 2018 #21
That sucks jcgoldie Apr 2018 #32
Ryan claims to be a Catholic Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2018 #35
Has anyone checked for a 666 under Ryans tight fitting starched white collars lately? Guilded Lilly Apr 2018 #27
OMG Hahahahhahahaha Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #28
I wonder what the chaplain got caught doing. Nitram Apr 2018 #29
The Lord is a little disappointed in Paul Ryan these days FakeNoose Apr 2018 #30
Just another bit of random pettiness Retrograde Apr 2018 #31
REPUBLICAN Ana Navarro responded, just got to love that woman: George II Apr 2018 #33
He didn't preach the prosperity gospel Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #34

3Hotdogs

(15,153 posts)
6. Dear Jesus,
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:58 PM
Apr 2018

Please help me get rid of the liars, charlatans, hypocrites, thieves, adulterers and page buggerers.


Signed,

Patrick.

No wonder Ryan wanted him out.

pnwmom

(110,219 posts)
23. The article says Dems say Ryan didn't like a prayer critical of the tax bill
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:48 PM
Apr 2018

and he didn't like it when a Muslim was invited to give an opening prayer.

RVN VET71

(3,159 posts)
9. It was that 1%-favoring tax bill, at least in part, that prompted Ryan's decision to fire him
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:00 PM
Apr 2018

The good Father had the audacity, I tell you, the outright unspeakably insulting audacity to pray that the bill treat every American fairly:

On Nov. 6 — the first day of the markup on the GOP's tax bill — Conroy in a prayer urged lawmakers to ensure the legislation did not exacerbate the nation's gaping class disparities.

"May all Members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great Nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle," Conroy said at the time. "May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans."

The cheek of that man, to pray that the GOP bill address the poors as if they were equal to the richies! Ryan acted in struct and unsurprising accordance with epistles of St. Ayn, his apron saint and spiritual role model.

Wasn't it Christ who said "Blessed are the poor -- so let's keep them that way?"

rurallib

(64,616 posts)
15. Maybe the next one will be a non-Christian?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:41 PM
Apr 2018

Hiring a Muslim would surely show some ecumenism -
Or perhaps a Rabbi, or a Sikh, or maybe even a pagan since most of our religious festivities derive from pagan practices?

Do I need this? for the humor impaired

19. Paul Ryan only has one God, and His name is Donald Trump.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:23 PM
Apr 2018

His favorite passage in the Book of Trump is this one: "And the Trump commanded Paul Ryan to jump, and Ryan replied, 'How high, Lord?'"

25. I was trying to do just that.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 05:24 PM
Apr 2018

Seriously, I've read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. I can see where someone like Ryan would be attracted to her, "Fuck you, I've got mine!" philosophy.

pnwmom

(110,219 posts)
21. Ryan didn't like a prayer that appeared to be critical of the tax bill,
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:43 PM
Apr 2018

according to two Democrats.

From the article at the OP:

A Democratic lawmaker said that the Speaker took issue with a prayer on the House floor that could have been perceived as being critical of the GOP tax-cut bill.

On Nov. 6 — the first day of the markup on the GOP's tax bill — Conroy in a prayer urged lawmakers to ensure the legislation did not exacerbate the nation's gaping class disparities.

"May all Members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great Nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle," Conroy said at the time. "May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans."


Another Democrat echoed this and also pointed to another possible reason:

"'Some of the more conservative evangelical Republicans didn't like that the Father had invited a Muslim person to give the opening prayer,' the source said."

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,477 posts)
35. Ryan claims to be a Catholic
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:26 AM
Apr 2018

While rejecting Catholic social teachings.

Here is something from Pope Francis' Evangelii Gaudium

54. In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting. To sustain a lifestyle which excludes others, or to sustain enthusiasm for that selfish ideal, a globalization of indifference has developed. Almost without being aware of it, we end up being incapable of feeling compassion at the outcry of the poor, weeping for other people’s pain, and feeling a need to help them, as though all this were someone else’s responsibility and not our own. The culture of prosperity deadens us; we are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase. In the meantime all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle; they fail to move us.

55. One cause of this situation is found in our relationship with money, since we calmly accept its dominion over ourselves and our societies. The current financial crisis can make us overlook the fact that it originated in a profound human crisis: the denial of the primacy of the human person! We have created new idols. The worship of the ancient golden calf (cf. Ex 32:1-35) has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings; man is reduced to one of his needs alone: consumption.

56. While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.

57. Behind this attitude lurks a rejection of ethics and a rejection of God. Ethics has come to be viewed with a certain scornful derision. It is seen as counterproductive, too human, because it makes money and power relative. It is felt to be a threat, since it condemns the manipulation and debasement of the person. In effect, ethics leads to a God who calls for a committed response which is outside the categories of the marketplace. When these latter are absolutized, God can only be seen as uncontrollable, unmanageable, even dangerous, since he calls human beings to their full realization and to freedom from all forms of enslavement. Ethics – a non-ideological ethics – would make it possible to bring about balance and a more humane social order. With this in mind, I encourage financial experts and political leaders to ponder the words of one of the sages of antiquity: “Not to share one’s wealth with the poor is to steal from them and to take away their livelihood. It is not our own goods which we hold, but theirs”.


Now, you may reject what Pope Francis has to say, but Paul Ryan is not supposed to reject it.

Retrograde

(11,396 posts)
31. Just another bit of random pettiness
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:13 PM
Apr 2018

from Ryan before he leaves office? Punching down again just because he can get away with it for now?

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