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Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:05 PM May 2018

IS BERNIE SANDERS'S 2020 SUPPORT SLIPPING? A SURVEY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS SAYS YES

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Source: Newsweek

BY MARIE SOLIS

Voters in a state that helped launch Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders's 2016 bid for the presidency may not be "feeling the Bern" as much two years later, now that it's rumored the senator could run again in 2020.

Sanders trails Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren as well as former Vice President Joe Biden in a survey of New Hampshire voters' preferred 2020 candidate, according to new polling from Suffolk University released on Wednesday. Sanders won over just 13 percent of New Hampshire voters, while Warren was preferred by 26 percent of the respondents and Biden by 20 percent. New Jersey Senator Cory Booker fell below Sanders with 8 percent, California Senator Kamala Harris and former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick each got 4 percent, and former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe and New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand received 2 percent each.

The poll was administered more than two years ahead of 2020's general election, but the results suggest that a state that once considered Sanders their first choice for president is open to other options when presented with a slate of potential Democratic contenders.

“For someone who hasn't visited New Hampshire in over a year, Joe Biden’s popularity is strong and steady," David Paleologos, Suffolk University Political Research Center's Boston director said. "What is perhaps surprising is that Bernie Sanders—who secured 60 percent of the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote in 2016—is retaining less than half of that support two years later."

FULL story at link below.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/are-bernie-sanderss-2020-polling-numbers-slipping-survey-new-hampshire-voters-908766

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IS BERNIE SANDERS'S 2020 SUPPORT SLIPPING? A SURVEY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS SAYS YES (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2018 OP
His attacks on the party will be his downfall. redstatebluegirl May 2018 #1
I agree...there was always disconnect between Democratic voters and Sen. Sanders. It has worsened Demsrule86 May 2018 #37
Go away Bernie. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #2
Age prob has a lot to do with it late May 2018 #3
I really agree with you. I want some young new blood to lead the party. olegramps May 2018 #8
Agree, late. kstewart33 May 2018 #11
I assume his support will slip since there will be candidates in the race other than Clinton Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #4
Hillary has nothing to do with 2020. Cha May 2018 #27
Sanders has to win northern states Upstate One May 2018 #5
His outreach to economically anxious Trump voters John Fante May 2018 #6
I originally thought he'd fade once the primaries got under way DavidDvorkin May 2018 #7
I believe his time has passed, duforsure May 2018 #9
Bernie Sanders helped to WAKE UP this country... DemocracyMouse May 2018 #10
This discussion seems engineered to provoke, not to enlighten. pangaia May 2018 #12
THE ALL CAPS SUBJECT LINE IS A FIRST CLUE. royable May 2018 #14
The title at Newsweek is ALL CAPS Omaha Steve May 2018 #17
IT'S NEWSWEEK Bradical79 May 2018 #21
You're wrong.. Newsweek always puts their headline in Cha May 2018 #29
I believe Omaha Steve was a strong supporter of Bernie Sanders during the primaries. honest.abe May 2018 #18
I was also. Plus, I pretty much enjoy Omaha Steve's posts. pangaia May 2018 #19
Right.. so I think Omaha Steve is simply providing some interesting and useful information. honest.abe May 2018 #20
You're probably right about that. pangaia May 2018 #24
In no way did I mean to fault the poster. The problem is with the headline itself. royable May 2018 #23
It's political news on a political discussion board. Cha May 2018 #28
Elizabeth Warren , an accomplished doer, did. Hortensis May 2018 #13
Democrats have spoken and written on income inequality for years. There is nothing new Demsrule86 May 2018 #38
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #15
Big yawn left-of-center2012 May 2018 #16
One huge difference is that in 2016, there was a constrained choice karynnj May 2018 #22
It seems like the main beneficiaries of Warren not running will be Bernie Sanders and Deval Patrick. StevieM May 2018 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #26
Thanks for the good news. sarcasmo May 2018 #30
I'm not... Mike Nelson May 2018 #31
The value of Iowa is that someone with low name recognition karynnj May 2018 #34
"IS BERNIE SANDERS'S 2020 SUPPORT SLIPPING? A SURVEY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS SAYS YES" elocs May 2018 #32
TELL YOURSELF THAT AND IT'S TRUE! MAGIC! JackRiddler May 2018 #33
YESSSS!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #35
The Newsweek title is all caps...LBN is title verbatim Omaha Steve May 2018 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2018 #39

redstatebluegirl

(12,827 posts)
1. His attacks on the party will be his downfall.
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:06 PM
May 2018

He cannot win with the percentage of Bernie or nothing voters.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
37. I agree...there was always disconnect between Democratic voters and Sen. Sanders. It has worsened
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:43 AM
May 2018

with some unwise remarks on his part.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
2. Go away Bernie.
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:10 PM
May 2018

Noone cares. You had your shot, and you eff'ed it up. If I hear one more Bernie post, I'm going to start running Hillary again. Let it go.

late

(20 posts)
3. Age prob has a lot to do with it
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:10 PM
May 2018

I like Bernie a lot. But it's time for my generation to step aside.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
8. I really agree with you. I want some young new blood to lead the party.
Wed May 2, 2018, 05:00 PM
May 2018

Someone who is more attuned with the those who are the future of the nation. I am just tired of the same old crap from a pack of worn out geezers. Trump is just a nasty, slimy old bastard I wouldn't shake hands with. Lordy, I think half the Senate is chaired by senile old cranks with constipation issues. Just what we need some old bastard that needs his grand kid's help plugging in the computer.

kstewart33

(6,552 posts)
11. Agree, late.
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

We need new voices with more energy. Same ole, same ole, just won't cut it. Not this time around.

Bok_Tukalo

(4,540 posts)
4. I assume his support will slip since there will be candidates in the race other than Clinton
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM
May 2018

Sanders benefited from essentially a binary choice; Clinton or not-Clinton.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
27. Hillary has nothing to do with 2020.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:36 PM
May 2018
 

Upstate One

(83 posts)
5. Sanders has to win northern states
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM
May 2018

Given his weakness in the South.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
6. His outreach to economically anxious Trump voters
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:34 PM
May 2018

isn't helping his cause, I take it.

DavidDvorkin

(20,589 posts)
7. I originally thought he'd fade once the primaries got under way
Wed May 2, 2018, 04:56 PM
May 2018

Now I wonder if he won't even be a factor by then.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. I believe his time has passed,
Wed May 2, 2018, 05:23 PM
May 2018

And he's too old. We need younger people, especially a woman .

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
10. Bernie Sanders helped to WAKE UP this country...
Wed May 2, 2018, 06:02 PM
May 2018

... to its underlying class divisions and rigged economy. Give the man a break. He has moved us forward, just as Hilllary moved us forward on the same and orher issues. The primaries among Democrats were far more mutually supportive between those two than what the Republicans showed. Let's honor both Hillary and Bernie – and the issues they stand for – by not succumbing to this provocation.

This discussion seems engineered to provoke, not to enlighten.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
12. This discussion seems engineered to provoke, not to enlighten.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:03 PM
May 2018

This isn't the only one.

royable

(1,426 posts)
14. THE ALL CAPS SUBJECT LINE IS A FIRST CLUE.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:09 PM
May 2018

The content is a second.

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
17. The title at Newsweek is ALL CAPS
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:29 PM
May 2018

Last edited Wed May 2, 2018, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

LBN rules on titles being verbatim was followed to the letter with a simple copy and paste.

OS

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Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
21. IT'S NEWSWEEK
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:32 PM
May 2018

All their headlines are in all caps.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
29. You're wrong.. Newsweek always puts their headline in
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:40 PM
May 2018

Caps. And, the OP is a BS supporter.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
18. I believe Omaha Steve was a strong supporter of Bernie Sanders during the primaries.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:35 PM
May 2018

Good rule of thumb.. dont make assumptions.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. I was also. Plus, I pretty much enjoy Omaha Steve's posts.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
20. Right.. so I think Omaha Steve is simply providing some interesting and useful information.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

No reason to make accusations.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
24. You're probably right about that.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:17 PM
May 2018


Thanks for pointing it out to me.

royable

(1,426 posts)
23. In no way did I mean to fault the poster. The problem is with the headline itself.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

It could have been worded in a less sensationalistic way. I too was a Bernie supporter in the primaries.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
28. It's political news on a political discussion board.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:40 PM
May 2018

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Elizabeth Warren , an accomplished doer, did.
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:07 PM
May 2018

Sanders offered himself to people eager for a leader when she decided not to run. Such a shame. I was really hoping she would.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
38. Democrats have spoken and written on income inequality for years. There is nothing new
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:46 AM
May 2018

with Sen. Sanders. Another reason he won't win in 20 is the constant co-opting of Democratic ideology.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. Big yawn
Wed May 2, 2018, 07:27 PM
May 2018

We need to win this year's elections
but some are still looking back at 2016
or leapfrogging to 2020.

Ho hum

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
22. One huge difference is that in 2016, there was a constrained choice
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:02 PM
May 2018

It did not include either Warren or Biden. I think even O'Malley had dropped out -- and Chaffee and Webb never gained traction. It was Clinton or Sanders.

I suspect that if Warren were an option, she likely would have taken a huge chunk of his vote and maybe some (but less) of Clinton's.


StevieM

(10,578 posts)
25. It seems like the main beneficiaries of Warren not running will be Bernie Sanders and Deval Patrick.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:18 PM
May 2018

I don't think Patrick will run if Joe Biden does. Eric Holder seems likely to run regardless.

In 2016 O'Malley dropped out after Iowa.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
30. Thanks for the good news.
Wed May 2, 2018, 09:46 PM
May 2018

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
31. I'm not...
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:05 PM
May 2018

...surprised Bernie is fading... but I am surprised Biden and Warren are in the lead. I have nothing against them, but I was predicting all the bigger names would fade. Maybe voters will want the security of someone familiar. Oh well, it is still too early to tell...

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
34. The value of Iowa is that someone with low name recognition
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:18 PM
May 2018

can win or even just do unexpectedly well and they will then get some coverage. If that person or people are impressive, they will suddenly be much higher than now.

I suspect that now it is mostly name recognition. Think of how many people know who Biden and Sanders are vs say Harris, Gilibrand, etc. Even here, in a very political group, I suspect most of us are not sure who we are for.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
32. "IS BERNIE SANDERS'S 2020 SUPPORT SLIPPING? A SURVEY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS SAYS YES"
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:05 PM
May 2018

One can only hope. I want an actual member of the Democratic Party as the nominee, a person who has run as a Democrat in their every election despite the imperfection of the party.
I will vote for Sanders if he is the nominee of the Democratic Party, but in his running for the nomination, even as a senior citizen I will answer phones, knock on doors, and donate what little money I can to stop him from winning it.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
33. TELL YOURSELF THAT AND IT'S TRUE! MAGIC!
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:17 PM
May 2018

How is this tendentious ALL-CAPS shit LBN, by the way?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
35. YESSSS!!
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:31 PM
May 2018

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
36. The Newsweek title is all caps...LBN is title verbatim
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:33 PM
May 2018

See reply #17.

This DUer raised over $77,000 for Bernie on the DU through Act Blue. Need I say more?

But your free to alert the hosts anytime you feel an LBN story isn't worthy.

OS

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