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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 04:31 PM May 2018

Strange readings from a dead spacecraft reveal new evidence of water on Europa

Source: Los Angeles Times

A spacecraft wouldn't recognize evidence of a lunar geyser if that geyser hit it in the face. Luckily, the scientists on the ground did.

Researchers using 21-year-old data from NASA's Galileo spacecraft have found evidence of a plume of material coming from the surface of Jupiter's icy moon Europa. The discovery offers a new line of evidence for an ocean beneath its frozen crust and a promising path forward in the search for extraterrestrial life.

The results show that old data from long-gone spacecraft "hold a lot of secrets we haven't yet uncovered," said Lori Glaze, acting director of NASA's Planetary Science Division.

If humans are to look for life on other worlds, one of the first places scientists say they want to probe is cold, distant Europa. One of the four large moons circling our solar system's biggest planet, Europa's frigid shell is thought to hide a global ocean that may hold twice as much water as Earth.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-jupiter-europa-plume-20180514-story.html

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Strange readings from a dead spacecraft reveal new evidence of water on Europa (Original Post) brooklynite May 2018 OP
On Europa? luc mont May 2018 #1
I dont get the whole search for life thing especially for microbial life Fullduplexxx May 2018 #2
Finding life elsewhere would make us far less unique than we assumed we were. Crash2Parties May 2018 #6
:) The search for new knowledge and understanding Hortensis May 2018 #9
Yeah, who cares about life, the universe, and everything? lagomorph777 May 2018 #12
Lol really is that what you think i said ? Fullduplexxx May 2018 #13
It would be proof of concept. lagomorph777 May 2018 #15
It might give a bunch of religious fundamentalist a kick in the ass. MicaelS May 2018 #18
Because we were once nothing but microbial life NickB79 May 2018 #20
It might validate the theory of Panspermia. MicaelS May 2018 #17
Strange readings? Dead spacecraft? Europa? rocktivity May 2018 #3
I think BigOleDummy May 2018 #4
I love distant spacecraft! truthisfreedom May 2018 #5
Me too laserhaas May 2018 #7
satellite discovers water in amsterdamster jimmy the one May 2018 #8
The idea of any kind of life in the universe... zanana1 May 2018 #10
Keep the people fighting among themselves from an emotional, identity perspective Uncle Joe May 2018 #11
SHHHHHHHH! nykym May 2018 #14
all these worlds are yours , except europa. attempt no landing here . AllaN01Bear May 2018 #16
Wonderful great post. Thanks n/t MicaelS May 2018 #19

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
6. Finding life elsewhere would make us far less unique than we assumed we were.
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:26 AM
May 2018

It would also potentially shake the pillars of not a few conservative religions.

From a practical standpoint it would give examples of evolution in environments different from our own.

Or show that life on Earth came from somewhere else.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. :) The search for new knowledge and understanding
Wed May 16, 2018, 07:37 AM
May 2018

is not accidentally related to advances in the human condition, of course. That said, I'm as clueless as you about what would be on current lists of potential practical applications. Just glad all these passionately committed minds around the globe are busy at it.

Btw, the insidiously nurtured pop fad of contempt for science in favor of a factless world of demons and fear, manifested politically by Republican stuffing of governments and judiciaries at all levels with science deniers, has caused record numbers of people "with backgrounds in science, math, engineering and technology" to run for office this year.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/372200-record-number-of-scientists-running-for-office-in-2018

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Yeah, who cares about life, the universe, and everything?
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:37 AM
May 2018

Let's just hide in our caves and eat nuts and berries.

So sad.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. It would be proof of concept.
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:54 AM
May 2018

One extraterrestrial microbe doubles the known number of times that life has evolved in the universe. It would be impossible at that point to argue that we're alone. If it happened twice, it happened billions of times in billions of ways.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
18. It might give a bunch of religious fundamentalist a kick in the ass.
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:42 PM
May 2018

Many of them think Earth is only place life exists in this Universe.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
20. Because we were once nothing but microbial life
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

All intelligent life has to evolve from it at first.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
17. It might validate the theory of Panspermia.
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:40 PM
May 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia#Case_studies


Panspermia proposes that bodies such as comets transported life forms such as bacteria complete with their DNA through space to the Earth. Panspermia is the hypothesis that life exists throughout the Universe, distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and also by spacecraft in the form of unintended contamination by microorganisms.

Panspermia is a hypothesis proposing that microscopic life forms that can survive the effects of space, such as extremophiles, become trapped in debris ejected into space after collisions between planets and small Solar System bodies that harbor life. Some organisms may travel dormant for an extended amount of time before colliding randomly with other planets or intermingling with protoplanetary disks. Under certain ideal impact circumstances (into a body of water, for example), and ideal conditions on a new planet's surfaces, it is possible that the surviving organisms could become active and begin to colonize their new environment. Panspermia is not meant to address how life began, just the method that may cause its distribution in the Universe.

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
3. Strange readings? Dead spacecraft? Europa?
Wed May 16, 2018, 01:10 AM
May 2018

Sounds familiar -- are you sure this is late breaking news?






rocktivity

BigOleDummy

(2,270 posts)
4. I think
Wed May 16, 2018, 01:46 AM
May 2018

its freaking awesome! Not just the findings but the fact that we are still recovering data from the Galileo mission.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
8. satellite discovers water in amsterdamster
Wed May 16, 2018, 06:17 AM
May 2018

I thought this was going to be an onion magazine satire. Since some european countries pronounce & spell Europe as Europa, I was getting ready for a chuckle about a new satellite 'finding water in amsterdamster', but alas, reading just splashed cold water on my dreams.
Finding water in amsterdamster, get it? dikes & all!

zanana1

(6,106 posts)
10. The idea of any kind of life in the universe...
Wed May 16, 2018, 07:49 AM
May 2018

Gives me a thrill. Even microbial life would uplift me. Just to know that we're not alone in the universe would mean a new understanding of life.

Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
11. Keep the people fighting among themselves from an emotional, identity perspective
Wed May 16, 2018, 08:46 AM
May 2018

Thanks for the thread brooklynite

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