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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:05 PM May 2018

Trump offers 'protections' if Kim surrenders nukes

Source: The Hill




BY JORDAN FABIAN - 05/17/18 02:49 PM EDT

President Trump on Thursday sought to reassure North Korean leader Kim Jong Un after Kim's government threatened to pull out of the upcoming nuclear summit with the United States.

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump said he is “willing to do a lot” to offer Kim “protections” if the North Korean leader agrees to surrender his nuclear weapons.

“He will get protections that are very strong,” Trump said during an Oval Office meeting with NATO’s secretary-general. “The best thing he could do is make a deal.”

North Korea threw the June 12 summit into doubt on Wednesday when it said it may not show up if the U.S. continues to demand “unilateral” nuclear disarmament.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/388198-trump-offers-kim-protections-if-he-surrenders-nukes

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Trump offers 'protections' if Kim surrenders nukes (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
Because we all know trump never lies still_one May 2018 #1
Bingo. MontanaMama May 2018 #6
.......................................................................... still_one May 2018 #11
So did Bill Clinton and provided oil for electricity, until George Bush came along. LiberalArkie May 2018 #2
Don't forget role of Sen. Jessie Helms in torpedoing the deal. nt NCjack May 2018 #30
"nice fiefdom ya got there. Shame if somethin' happened to it. Want some protection?" muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #3
Spanky is trying to sell Kim on a Trump Steaks franchise C_U_L8R May 2018 #4
Protection from what? South Korea? underpants May 2018 #5
Most likely, protection from an internal revolt of colonels. nt NCjack May 2018 #31
WTF MontanaMama May 2018 #7
Lil Kim's response: Whatever, serial liar who is being investigated for corruption flibbitygiblets May 2018 #8
Missed it by that much! MontanaMama May 2018 #12
Good one! Or perhaps the coveted "Putzpuller" prize? flibbitygiblets May 2018 #14
Instant Classic! MontanaMama May 2018 #15
I smell a white-mustachioed rat. Bolton is jonesing for another war. flibbitygiblets May 2018 #19
Sorry, I meant this to be a new post, not a response. flibbitygiblets May 2018 #20
Next He'll Be Begging Kim To Come To The Table Me. May 2018 #9
So eight years of protections tops. rogue emissary May 2018 #10
Not even that, since tRump can't be trusted to honor any deal, even his own. shanny May 2018 #21
True, he's the king of broken contracts. rogue emissary May 2018 #24
He and Dubya have made sure our word is not worth shit on the international stage... Hekate May 2018 #13
Nice country you have there, Rocket Boy. Be a shame if something happened to it. Paladin May 2018 #16
Nice..so obvious - the POS offering protection....OMG asiliveandbreathe May 2018 #27
NK and Kim to Trump: "Wire us the money first . . . . . . " no_hypocrisy May 2018 #17
LOL!!!! duforsure May 2018 #18
Um, I wouldn't trust any guarantee Trump ever made me Downtown Hound May 2018 #22
This feels like something a mafiosa would do jmowreader May 2018 #23
You can take Shitlers word for it NK workinclasszero May 2018 #25
A case of Trump magic water, vodka, and steaks? Perhaps throw in a Trump tie and fake diploma Freethinker65 May 2018 #26
Protections?! What is RUMP going to do, talk to death anyone who threatens the NKs? Nt SWBTATTReg May 2018 #28
Isn't that extortion? "Nice country, it'd be a shame if something bad happened to it..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #29
And he threatened Kim with Ghadafi's fate if he doesn't cooperate. tblue37 May 2018 #32
Kim is laughing his ass off dalton99a May 2018 #33
So vague as to be meaningless. Orsino May 2018 #34
This is the same guy who also said if NK doesn't come to the table he's going to "Gadaffi" him apnu May 2018 #35

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
2. So did Bill Clinton and provided oil for electricity, until George Bush came along.
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:08 PM
May 2018

Last edited Thu May 17, 2018, 05:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Edit add in oil .

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
3. "nice fiefdom ya got there. Shame if somethin' happened to it. Want some protection?"
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

President Tony Soprano.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
4. Spanky is trying to sell Kim on a Trump Steaks franchise
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

Granted Kim may be as selfish as Trump but there's no way he's as dumb.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
8. Lil Kim's response: Whatever, serial liar who is being investigated for corruption
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:13 PM
May 2018

Pass. Sorry about your Nobel Peace Prize, lol.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
14. Good one! Or perhaps the coveted "Putzpuller" prize?
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:38 PM
May 2018

I liked EarlG's version too: NoBalls PieceofShit prize

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. I smell a white-mustachioed rat. Bolton is jonesing for another war.
Thu May 17, 2018, 04:21 PM
May 2018

This ludicrous protection offer, after Bolton's completely unrealistic demands to completely denuclearize (a la Libya, and gee that worked out swell for their former leader) sounds faintly like a good-cop, bad-cop routine designed to start a war with NK.

1. Prompted by Bolton, Trump stops with the juvenile cyber-taunting, and says he wants to meet with Kim (both crave attention and validation, so of course they'd agree)
2. Kim says OK (Kim wants worldwide validation and acknowledgment)
3. Bolton plays "bad cop", demanding end result of meetings to be complete NK denuclearization, casually throwing in line about "Libya model"
4. Kim makes noise about backing out of meeting (of course he isn't giving up nukes, it's literally his only bargaining chip)
5. Trump offers useless "protection" (haha, this was probably Bolton's idea as well, making it look like Kim is being unreasonable)

How does this play out? Trump is beyond stupid (and would LOVE a distraction from that "Russia thing&quot , so it looks like Bolton gets what he wanted all along
6. Kim backs out, starts making war noises again (he's been humiliated and needs to show he's powerful)
7. Bolton says "He's threatening us! We have to take him out!"


Only a congress with a spine can stop this. And we don't have that right now. Even if we get the much-ballyhooed "blue wave" in November, there's still 2-3 months to start a war with no one to stop it.

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
10. So eight years of protections tops.
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:26 PM
May 2018

Unless he's figured out a way to stay President longer. I don't see Pence or any other Republican honoring Donny's protections guarantees.

Donny's already demonstrated that the US won't stand by any agreement a previous administration signed.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
13. He and Dubya have made sure our word is not worth shit on the international stage...
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:37 PM
May 2018

Why should Kim believe anything he says?

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
16. Nice country you have there, Rocket Boy. Be a shame if something happened to it.
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:42 PM
May 2018

The NY mob styling just gets more and more obvious, doesn't it?

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
22. Um, I wouldn't trust any guarantee Trump ever made me
Thu May 17, 2018, 04:42 PM
May 2018

And somehow I doubt the North Koreans will as well.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
23. This feels like something a mafiosa would do
Thu May 17, 2018, 05:01 PM
May 2018

"Nice country ya got here, Rocket Man. Be a shame if anything happened to it, if you get my meaning."

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
26. A case of Trump magic water, vodka, and steaks? Perhaps throw in a Trump tie and fake diploma
Thu May 17, 2018, 05:28 PM
May 2018

All with money back guarantees, excluding handling and shipping.

29. Isn't that extortion? "Nice country, it'd be a shame if something bad happened to it..."
Thu May 17, 2018, 06:10 PM
May 2018

"You just do what I tell you and I guarantee you'll be protected."

Sounds like the makings of a mob movie.

apnu

(8,751 posts)
35. This is the same guy who also said if NK doesn't come to the table he's going to "Gadaffi" him
Fri May 18, 2018, 01:46 PM
May 2018

Which chapters of "Art of the Deal" are these bargaining tactics coming from?

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