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elmac

(4,642 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:13 PM May 2018

Supreme Court Decision Delivers Blow To Workers' Rights

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: NPR

In a case involving the rights of tens of millions of private-sector employees, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote margin, delivered a major blow to workers, ruling for the first time that workers may not band together to challenge violations of federal labor laws.
Writing for the majority, Justice Neil Gorsuch said that the 1925 Federal Arbitration Act trumps the National Labor Relations Act and that employees who sign employment agreements to arbitrate claims must do so on an individual basis — and may not band together to enforce claims of wage and hour violations.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

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Supreme Court Decision Delivers Blow To Workers' Rights (Original Post) elmac May 2018 OP
Every day brings more successful RW corporate attacks on our citizenry. Ligyron May 2018 #1
Elections have consequences. madaboutharry May 2018 #2
Especially sham elections ck4829 May 2018 #3
Yep. madaboutharry May 2018 #7
+10000000 bronxiteforever May 2018 #13
He needs his vacuuous head Plucketeer May 2018 #33
Another reason TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #4
If I could elmac May 2018 #6
Agreed TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #8
Me too. Never thought I would be ashamed to live in America. Pepsidog May 2018 #28
Bush did it for me... mikeysnot May 2018 #34
I guess the five corporate slugs voted much like they always do. justhanginon May 2018 #5
Corporate court? n/t aggiesal May 2018 #11
Elections have consequences! Alethia Merritt May 2018 #9
Stop signing arbitration agreements ... aggiesal May 2018 #10
This court has legalized blackmail, you can not get a job without signing it, this legalized form turbinetree May 2018 #14
I had to sign one to buy a friggin car. mikeysnot May 2018 #35
This fucking asshole needs to be IMPEACHED...................he was put on the bench turbinetree May 2018 #12
And there's really only ONE person Plucketeer May 2018 #37
That seat should belong to Merrick Garland! Ohiogal May 2018 #15
Merrick Garland, while certainly better than Neil Gorsuch Calista241 May 2018 #16
and the supreme court gave us citizens united elmac May 2018 #19
This is absolutely sickening n/t dajoki May 2018 #17
"Egregiously wrong" mountain grammy May 2018 #18
Gee - I wonder leftynyc May 2018 #20
I remember saying it--it's the Supreme Court, stupid. DFW May 2018 #30
stop listening or reading russians bots... mikeysnot May 2018 #36
This is so effin wrong it hurts to read benld74 May 2018 #21
If we had a Congress concerned with workers, they would legislate a law in their favor but we riversedge May 2018 #22
We are More of a Corporate Autocracy Than a Democracy dlk May 2018 #23
Neil Gorsuchs' Maxheader May 2018 #24
My problem with this case is that the majority opinion sounds plausible. Calista241 May 2018 #25
My take, too The Mouth May 2018 #31
WTF??? SummerSnow May 2018 #26
1925 Law? Seriously? Me. May 2018 #27
McConnell recently bragged that he's making "generational changes" to the judiciary. CrispyQ May 2018 #29
They dug deep for that one. I note that it's before WhiteTara May 2018 #32
Locking - duplicate thread muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #38

Ligyron

(7,619 posts)
1. Every day brings more successful RW corporate attacks on our citizenry.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

And the morons voted for it.

I wonder if we'll ever undo the damage they are causing. Certainly not in my lifetime.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
2. Elections have consequences.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

ck4829

(35,039 posts)
3. Especially sham elections
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:18 PM
May 2018

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
7. Yep.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:25 PM
May 2018

Neil Gorsuch sits in a stolen seat.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
13. +10000000
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:36 PM
May 2018
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. He needs his vacuuous head
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:23 PM
May 2018

jammed into a toilet seat. Water-seated!

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
4. Another reason
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:19 PM
May 2018

I'd probably never choose to move back to the US. Workers are second class citizens in America.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
6. If I could
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:23 PM
May 2018

I would move as far away as possible. Things are going to get much, much worse.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
8. Agreed
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:28 PM
May 2018

My wife and I say to each other how lucky we are on a near daily basis.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
28. Me too. Never thought I would be ashamed to live in America.
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:50 PM
May 2018

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
34. Bush did it for me...
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:23 PM
May 2018

trump and his ilk just slammed the door shut.

My friends work for WHO in Switzerland, need to send them my resume and brush up on my German.

I'm not giving up, this shit can be undone by legislation but we need to control all three houses.

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
5. I guess the five corporate slugs voted much like they always do.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:23 PM
May 2018

Like so many of our protections as common citizens, the corporate flunkeys appointed by conservative administrations could care less about rights and more about the dismantling what few protections we as regular citizens still have. Corporate rule on steroids.
At some point we should consider renaming the "Supreme Court" to better describe their value to society as a whole.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
11. Corporate court? n/t
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:32 PM
May 2018

Alethia Merritt

(147 posts)
9. Elections have consequences!
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:28 PM
May 2018

Slick, corrupt, and evil politicians will use your own prejudices against you and make you feel like you accomplished something special. Easy to keep fooling fools.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
10. Stop signing arbitration agreements ...
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:30 PM
May 2018

It strips our rights to fight anything in the courts.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
14. This court has legalized blackmail, you can not get a job without signing it, this legalized form
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:40 PM
May 2018

of discrimination is a further ally of this John Roberts racist jerk and the other four jerks sitting on this bench.....................they don't care, and people need to get out and vote................they are making this country into a third rate state, and have been doing it since 1970, and really putting the screws on the workers since the 1980's ..........................


The courts are determining your wage, health care, bargaining rights, clean food water, air and status in this country.................it's a simple fact of economics.......................and the national news media is normalizing this jerk being on the bench...................he is making rulings that are in my opinion illegal......................


mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
35. I had to sign one to buy a friggin car.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:24 PM
May 2018

I told them they will be in a world of hurt if it comes to that.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
12. This fucking asshole needs to be IMPEACHED...................he was put on the bench
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:33 PM
May 2018

in VIOLATION of the CONSTITUTION..........................end of story, this normalization is just fucked up, and not once in the NPR piece say anything like you know what this asshole really should not be on this bench, and this ruling by this asshole is really fucking illegal ......................nope




FUCK YOU John Roberts.......................your a complete fucking asshole..................you said in your hearing that you would abide by precedents.......................fucking LIAR, why don't you and your cronies just name it Corporations are US Courts


I bet your five right wing assholes are chopping at the bit for Janus

https://www.afscme.org/now/janus-for-leaders


 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
37. And there's really only ONE person
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

who regularly speaks publicly against all these destructive moves. ONLY ONE! FOR WHICH they're labeled as a Grandstander.

Ohiogal

(31,929 posts)
15. That seat should belong to Merrick Garland!
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:47 PM
May 2018

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. Merrick Garland, while certainly better than Neil Gorsuch
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:51 PM
May 2018

is definitely not a Ruth Bader Ginsburg clone. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have been on the side of the 5-4 majority in this case.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
19. and the supreme court gave us citizens united
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:05 PM
May 2018

which gave us the fascists, which keeps the court fascist, a very troubling cycle. Democrats can never compromise with these monsters because it always goes bad for us.

dajoki

(10,678 posts)
17. This is absolutely sickening n/t
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:59 PM
May 2018

mountain grammy

(26,600 posts)
18. "Egregiously wrong"
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:05 PM
May 2018

What RBG said in her dissent.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for the four dissenters, called the majority opinion "egregiously wrong." She said the 1925 arbitration law came well before federal labor laws and should not cover these arm-twisted, "take-it-or-leave it" provisions that employers are now insisting on.

The inevitable result, she warned, is that there will be huge underenforcement of federal and state statutes designed to advance the well-being of workers.

"[T]he edict that employees with wage and hours claims may seek relief only one-by-one does not come from Congress," Ginsburg writes. "It is the result of take-it-or-leave-it labor contracts harking back to the type called 'yellow dog,' and of the readiness of this Court to enforce those unbargained-for agreements. The FAA demands no such suppression of the right of workers to take concerted action for their 'mutual aid or protection.'"

She urged Congress to correct the court's elevation of the arbitration act over workers' rights.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. Gee - I wonder
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:13 PM
May 2018

if all the morons who said Hillary was just as bad still think that considering who wrote this decision. May every single one of those morons suffer for the rest of their miserable lives.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
30. I remember saying it--it's the Supreme Court, stupid.
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:16 PM
May 2018

All the people who dissed Hillary after the convention, for whatever reason, and didn't vote for her--I wish the direst consequences of their vote to be visited upon them. Lost rights, lost health coverage, lost jobs and lost government interest in their situation. The misery they have perpetrated on the rest of the country is and will be incalculable.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
36. stop listening or reading russians bots...
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:25 PM
May 2018

benld74

(9,901 posts)
21. This is so effin wrong it hurts to read
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:20 PM
May 2018

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
22. If we had a Congress concerned with workers, they would legislate a law in their favor but we
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:22 PM
May 2018

only have a corporate loving congress now. #FlipitBLUE is a must to survive in NOV>

dlk

(11,514 posts)
23. We are More of a Corporate Autocracy Than a Democracy
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

Corporations rule!

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
24. Neil Gorsuchs'
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:37 PM
May 2018

tongue must be all shiny from lickin shoes..What did you get for
deserting amercun workers neil? harvard for all your kids?


"[T]he edict that employees with wage and hours claims may seek relief only one-by-one does not come from Congress," Ginsburg writes. "It is the result of take-it-or-leave-it labor contracts harking back to the type called 'yellow dog,' and of the readiness of this Court to enforce those unbargained-for agreements. The FAA demands no such suppression of the right of workers to take concerted action for their 'mutual aid or protection.'"

She urged Congress to correct the court's elevation of the arbitration act over workers' rights.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
25. My problem with this case is that the majority opinion sounds plausible.
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:38 PM
May 2018

They challenged that the National Labor Relations Act (written in 1935) doesn’t address arbitration.

And the Federal Arbitration Act (written in 1925) explicitly does address it.

The argument was over which Act is relevant, and the Supreme Court is doing what it’s supposed to do by determining which laws apply.

The majority basically said that they disagree with the law, but that the judiciary cannot overrule the will of the legislature.

The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
31. My take, too
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

Massive respect to RBG, but it seems the ruling was pretty much a narrow thing about which law said or covered what.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
26. WTF???
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:40 PM
May 2018

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. 1925 Law? Seriously?
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:40 PM
May 2018

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
29. McConnell recently bragged that he's making "generational changes" to the judiciary.
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:52 PM
May 2018

WhiteTara

(29,693 posts)
32. They dug deep for that one. I note that it's before
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

the Great Depression.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
38. Locking - duplicate thread
Mon May 21, 2018, 02:45 PM
May 2018

of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142063740 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.

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