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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:20 PM May 2018

ICE Director Tells Trump Calling MS-13 'Animals' Is Kind: 'Animals Kill for Survival, MS-13 Kills...

Source: Mediate



ICE Director Tells Trump Calling MS-13 ‘Animals’ Is Kind: ‘Animals Kill for Survival, MS-13 Kills for Sport’

by Josh Feldman | 3:01 pm, May 23rd, 2018

President Trump held a roundtable today on immigration and the brutal MS-13, and he stood by the “animal” language he used last week. And the acting director of ICE backed him up on it.

Thomas Homan spoke at the roundtable event today along with a few other officials (most notably Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein days after his meeting with Trump about his DOJ “demand”).

Homan––who has overseeing the immigration and deportation crackdown under Trump––started out by thanking the President for his leadership and for taking border security so seriously. At one point during his remarks about cracking down on MS-13, Homan said this directly to Trump:

“I know you’ve been taking a hit on your comments about animals and MS-13, but I think you’re being kind. Animals kill for survival, MS-13 kills for sport.”


Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ice-director-tells-trump-calling-ms-13-animals-is-kind-animals-kill-for-survival-ms-13-kills-for-sport/
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ICE Director Tells Trump Calling MS-13 'Animals' Is Kind: 'Animals Kill for Survival, MS-13 Kills... (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
And Republicans kill for profit. sandensea May 2018 #1
And they admit it too ... Mike Rows His Boat May 2018 #3
The man always got the stupidest lines - and he still always flubbed them. sandensea May 2018 #13
Republicans are the Ferengi... wcmagumba May 2018 #8
Great. sandensea May 2018 #11
Unbearably true, sandensea.They destroy human beings, the animals of the earth, the earth itself.n/t Judi Lynn May 2018 #15
There have been exceptions to be sure. sandensea May 2018 #18
You know who else kills and tries to claim that its a 'sport'? Garion_55 May 2018 #2
Yeah. I bet the guide had to get him within 2 feet of that poor Kudu. sandensea May 2018 #12
when you make a group less than human it becomes easier to treat them as less than human dembotoz May 2018 #4
MS-13 are human beings first, criminals distant second. quartz007 May 2018 #5
The USA has dumb people who are in position of power. Iliyah May 2018 #6
And what sayeth Trump and ICE about undocumented immigrants that have for years had positive effects Freethinker65 May 2018 #7
I dunno why tRump won't spread then blame for the hatred, bigotry and violence... LanternWaste May 2018 #9
Thomas Homan is an animal. byronius May 2018 #10
ICE Cold: How a Loyal Obama Bureaucrat Became the Face of Trump's Deportation Force Judi Lynn May 2018 #16
And then there are Eric and Junior who kill big animals for fun. pangaia May 2018 #14
I don't object.. cannabis_flower May 2018 #17

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
13. The man always got the stupidest lines - and he still always flubbed them.
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

May he live long enough to rot in jail.

Thanks for posting this, Mike. I had forgotten all about that one (just as well).

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
15. Unbearably true, sandensea.They destroy human beings, the animals of the earth, the earth itself.n/t
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:20 PM
May 2018

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
18. There have been exceptions to be sure.
Wed May 23, 2018, 05:05 PM
May 2018

But each GOP administration seems to get more aggressive, corrupt, and extreme than the last.

Ike was no angel; but he must be rolling in his grave.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
12. Yeah. I bet the guide had to get him within 2 feet of that poor Kudu.
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:45 PM
May 2018

And short bus still missed.

Far be it from me to advocate the hunting of human beings; but if anyone ever deserved it...

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
4. when you make a group less than human it becomes easier to treat them as less than human
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:26 PM
May 2018

easier to commit atrocities when the victims are seen as lesser beings

see it over and over again in history

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
5. MS-13 are human beings first, criminals distant second.
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:29 PM
May 2018

They should be allowed to stay here with all other immigrants.

Freethinker65

(10,001 posts)
7. And what sayeth Trump and ICE about undocumented immigrants that have for years had positive effects
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:32 PM
May 2018

Positive effects on their communities? This is what needs to be asked and answered.

No one I know is against deporting undocumented MS-13 criminal gang members?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. I dunno why tRump won't spread then blame for the hatred, bigotry and violence...
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:33 PM
May 2018

I dunno why tRump won't spread then blame for the “hatred, bigotry and violence” that resulted in the death of one person to “many sides.”

But maybe that forced nuance applies only to white supremacists.

Sounds about white.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
16. ICE Cold: How a Loyal Obama Bureaucrat Became the Face of Trump's Deportation Force
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:28 PM
May 2018

ICE Cold: How a Loyal Obama Bureaucrat Became the Face of Trump’s Deportation Force
NOAH LANARD APR. 13, 2018 3:28 PM



1. “He looks very nasty”
After 33 years in law enforcement, Thomas Homan retired last January for about three hours. As he was leaving his retirement ceremony on a Friday afternoon, Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly called to say President Donald Trump was offering a promotion. Homan came back to work on Tuesday as the acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

From the outside, Homan might have seemed a surprising choice to lead ICE, a 20,000-person division of the Department of Homeland Security that deports more than 200,000 people per year. During the Obama administration, Homan had won the highest civil service award after effectively enforcing the more limited deportation priorities that Trump rose to power attacking. But Kelly appeared to know something that had long been clear to many of Homan’s colleagues: Homan did not like that the Obama administration had told his officers whom they should and shouldn’t arrest.

Since taking over as acting director of ICE, Homan has gone from being a mostly anonymous civil servant to one of the most combative defenders of Trump’s immigration agenda. He has appeared on Fox News to say that politicians who limit cooperation with ICE should be charged with crimes and has staged retaliatory operations against their cities in the meantime. ICE arrests were up 41 percent last year and 171 percent among people without criminal records. ICE is now pursuing even the most sympathetic undocumented immigrants. That is part of Homan’s goal. Testifying before Congress last year, he warned, “If you’re in this country illegally…you should be uncomfortable. You should look over your shoulder, and you need to be worried.”

Crucially for a president obsessed with appearance, Homan—a barrel-chested former cop—looks the part. His presence is imposing enough that two former colleagues said, unprompted, that they’d never seen him bully someone. In July, Trump said he’d heard that Homan looks “very nasty.” He replied, “That’s exactly what I was looking for.” Many of the 12 former colleagues of Homan interviewed for this article, from Arizona, Texas, and Washington, DC, say he has a soft side behind the gruff exterior. But that hasn’t stopped Homan from playing up his “cop’s cop” persona on TV, surely aware that it goes over well with his most important viewer.

More:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/ice-cold-how-a-loyal-obama-bureaucrat-became-the-face-of-trumps-deportation-force/

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
17. I don't object..
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:49 PM
May 2018

to them being called animals. I object to them being called "not people". People after all, are animals. But to say they are not people is truly dehumanizing.

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