Gov. Cuomo overwhelmingly beats out Cynthia Nixon for Democratic Party nomination
Source: NY Daily News
State Democrats came out overwhelmingly for Gov. Cuomo at the party's nominating convention Wednesday, as New York Republicans gathered to back Dutchess County Executive Marcus Molinaro for the state's top job.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cuomo-overwhelmingly-beats-cynthia-nixon-democratic-convention-article-1.4005644
Hillary endorsed gov Cuomo..
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)sandensea
(21,614 posts)She gave the race - and NY Democrats - nationwide media attention of the mostly positive kind they haven't seen since Eliot Spitzer ran '06.
I met her once, coincidentally. This was shortly after her Sex and the City years, in an L.A. Whole Foods.
She had the most interesting little smile and mischievous look, and was nothing but gracious.
SergeStorms
(19,190 posts)there's that 'Nixon' name. Even after all these years it still has a taint to it. I know when I hear the name 'Nixon' my mind darkens, my heartbeat increases, and my fists still ball up. Every indication says she's a very nice lady, she's a Democrat, and her heart is in the right place. She needs some experience though. Trump is proof enough that political dilettantes shouldn't dive into the deep end of the pool.
And still, that 'Nixon' name!
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)IIRC, she once reported a lament of her mother: "I was born with a father named Adolph and I married a man named Nixon."
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)her surname has a negative connotation
dhol82
(9,352 posts)She is a dilettante in politics.
Will see where she is in a couple of years.
Lucky Luciano
(11,252 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .if it was something along the lines of city council, borough president, state assembly or state senate.
But then again, I get the impression that she and the people she hangs around with consider those positions as below their stature.
George II
(67,782 posts)murielm99
(30,724 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Nixon isn't likely to win, but she also isn't likely to be held to 15%.
George II
(67,782 posts)A few points:
The poll is a month old (released on May 2, probably done in late April)
The poll was conducted prior to Our Revolution endorsing Nixon, which we've seen has more of a negative effect than positive
The poll was conducted prior to the NYS Democratic Convention, where Nixon got only 5%
We're still almost four months from the primary, so that poll was conducted about five months prior to the primary.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)You're right about that. Of course, a poll four days before the voting isn't conclusive proof, either.
The state convention isn't a popular vote. It's a gathering of party apparatchiks. The establishment party officials endorsed the incumbent -- hardly a surprise.
What you've "seen" about OR is more wishful thinking. OR endorsed many candidates in tough races, such as those challenging incumbents. Some won, some lost. If you want to think that OR does more harm than good, then you go right on believing that Nixon won't reach 15%.
How confident are you? We could make a little bet. This month I directed my Credo Mobile donation to the Brennan Center for Justice, which does a lot of good work on voting rights and other issues. From the Wikipedia article about the Center:
The Brennan Center advocates for a number of progressive public policy positions, including raising the minimum wage, opposing voter ID laws, and calling for public funding of elections.[7][8] The organization opposed the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. FEC, which held that the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent political expenditures by nonprofits.[6][9]
The Center's stated mission is to "work to hold our political institutions and laws accountable to the twin American ideals of democracy and equal justice for all."[10] The organization's president is Michael Waldman, former director of speechwriting for President Bill Clinton.
So, over-under at Nixon on 15% of the vote in the Democratic primary. If she's over 15%, you lose. If she's under 15% or precisely at 15.00%, I lose. Loser donates to the Brennan Center in the winner's honor. I'll take this action for any amount from $10 through $100, your choice. Deal?
George II
(67,782 posts)By the way, have you ever participated as a delegate in a State Convention?
I've been a delegate for the last six semi-annual Conventions in my state, most recently last Friday and Saturday. It is most certainly not "a gathering of party apparatchiks" or that "the establishment party officials endorsed the incumbent". I was never told which candidates I should support, and didn't support the ultimate endorsee in each case.
BTW, to give you an idea of the (lack of) magnitude of Nixon's 5%, last weekend a man who recently was released from prison after seven years as the result of a conviction for bribery while in office as Mayor, got 13% of the delegate vote. Five percent is an embarrassment.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .considering OR's record of candidates they've backed so far.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)But I do agree, the headline is mis-leading. So thanks for clearing it up.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)The two things are both very different.
brooklynite
(94,452 posts)He wants to win the Democratic Primary by a large enough margin to be prospectively competitive in the 2020 Presidential.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Cuomo receieved 95% of the NY votes.
Cuomo's many progressive & Democratic policies are already in place & will be continued as he governs his fine & diverse State of NY.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)Cynthia Nixon has no business being governor of New York. Period.
That said, not all liberal New Yorkers are enamored with Cuomo. He's better than the available alternatives, but he's far from ideal.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)We've been down that road.
Media Investors want a return on their money.
Makes ya wonder how much of the 5% is created by investors, for investors.
Hmm.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,018 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Not that I want to see Nixon get the nomination, but if she wants to run she should be able.
Since I don't live anywhere near New York (although I was born in that state) I don't pay much attention to its politics.
No matter what Nixon's personal beliefs and politics, she has zero experience in public office and would not really have much of a clue how to govern were she to win the election. It's that way any time some celebrity non-politician gets elected. Isn't that strange?
FarPoint
(12,309 posts)Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts). . . .
Just about all of Cuomos recent policy announcements have come on issues Nixon had raised in the early days of her campaign.
And then, of course, theres Cuomos cozy relationship with the turncoat Democrats of the so-called Independent Democratic Conference another subject on which he has recently mended his ways:
Until Cuomo brokered the intraparty deal this springanother move that came just days after Nixons entry into the gubernatorial raceprogressives had accused him of choosing not to use his considerable influence to bring the warring factions together. He even drew a rebuke from the national Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee shortly after Trumps election in 2016. As progressives see it, Cuomo preferred not to have a unified Democratic legislature because it meant he could claim credit for orchestrating bipartisan victories and escape blame for not moving further to the left.
Nixon will have a good case for having advanced Democratic Party principles in state governance, even in the likely event that she gets fewer votes than Cuomo in the primary.
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)Wouldn't you say it's a good thing when a candidate (Cuomo) is pushed to rethink his positionsw? I saw Nixon on CNN and she was not ready for prime time. I do not want folks, like trump, elected who are clueless about the job.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Question: "So what?"
Answer: "It's a good thing when a candidate (Cuomo) is pushed to rethink his positions."
Of course, "rethink his positions" is arguably too charitable, as it implies that Cuomo has realized that following Democratic principles produces better governance. I think he's realized only that it produces better electoral results. On that view, "rethink the political advantage of his positions" would be more accurate.
But, regardless of his motives, I do agree with you that the people of New York are better off for his changes. Thank you, Cynthia Nixon!
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)Nixon had no answers to the questions asked. It was all general, but no specifics. I am all for women seeking elective office, but as with all candidates, they need to be able to present reasons why they want our votes.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)like in a movie, ..great actress, knew her lines but couldn't answer a thing asked of her "off script".
And she thinks she can govern the big & diverse State of NY?
She's clearly not in it for that reason.
Obviously.