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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:09 PM May 2018

Irish Times exit poll projects Ireland has voted by landslide to repeal Eighth Amendment

Source: Irish Times

Ireland has voted by a landslide margin to change the constitution so that abortion can be legalised, according to an exit poll conducted for The Irish Times by Ipsos/MRBI.

The poll suggests that the margin of victory for the Yes side in the referendum will be 68 per cent to 32 per cent – a stunning victory for the Yes side after a long and often divisive campaign.

Four thousand voters were interviewed by Ipsos/MRBI as they left polling stations yestersay. Sampling began at 7am and was conducted at 160 locations across every constituency throughout the day. The margin of error is estimated at +/- 1.5 per cent.

Counting of votes begins this morning at 9am with an official result expected to be declared in the afternoon.

Read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-exit-poll-projects-ireland-has-voted-by-landslide-to-repeal-eighth-amendment-1.3508861



Now let's see if polls match count, or if people were too ashamed of admitting they wouldn't vote to give reproductive rights to women.
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Irish Times exit poll projects Ireland has voted by landslide to repeal Eighth Amendment (Original Post) moriah May 2018 OP
Well, how 'bout that! calimary May 2018 #1
That's very good news, if true. CaliforniaPeggy May 2018 #2
Does trump own a golf course there? I'm very happy for th notdarkyet May 2018 #3
I don't think he does. Jedi Guy May 2018 #32
Wow. LisaM May 2018 #4
I'm hopeful as well. moriah May 2018 #6
Fuckin A!!!!! BigmanPigman May 2018 #5
Amazing how voting can work when Google and Facebook turn off the bots like they did here. PSPS May 2018 #7
That is a very good point. LisaM May 2018 #10
Hopefully, this turns out to be the case. Deuce May 2018 #8
Hopefully this will be as big a margin as this suggests, so that it ends the argument OnDoutside May 2018 #9
On behalf of America itself, I apologize for the pro-fetus ones of us... moriah May 2018 #13
I was surprised to meet one of them. Granny M May 2018 #14
There were lots of those here but clearly they only pissed people off ! OnDoutside May 2018 #17
Truly TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #22
Yes and those (mostly men) standing at roundabouts with big posters of bloodied fetuses, over the OnDoutside May 2018 #23
Absolutely TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #26
Yes, nothing better to get our backs up ! OnDoutside May 2018 #30
My in laws TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #33
Hahaha, ah the young ! OnDoutside May 2018 #47
Go Ireland! mcar May 2018 #11
Now watch Trump try to keep Americans out of Ireland cpamomfromtexas May 2018 #12
Oh, of course he will make this about him. How dare the Irish suck up all this attention. flibbitygiblets May 2018 #39
My understanding is that the end result will be allowing abortion up to 12 weeks Algernon Moncrieff May 2018 #15
12 weeks unrestricted and up to 24 weeks in very specific circumstances. The Catholic Church will be OnDoutside May 2018 #18
No one wants a hell of a lot to do w/the Catholic Church in Ireland these days CountAllVotes May 2018 #41
Most anti-choice people are not ashamed to admit their position. StevieM May 2018 #16
I would have accepted 51-49, but 60+ kills this as an issue. Many of the 40% or so, No voters are OnDoutside May 2018 #20
It was actually 87-13 among voters who are 18-24. StevieM May 2018 #27
I agree, those are stunning numbers. OnDoutside May 2018 #31
If it's a guy interviewed next to his wife? moriah May 2018 #25
It was a great day TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #19
+1 OnDoutside May 2018 #21
Yes!!! wolfie001 May 2018 #24
Strange. I thought the opposite effect would be more prevalent. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #28
I'm just scared. moriah May 2018 #37
I noticed on the news that it appeared Irish citizens living abroad LiberalFighter May 2018 #29
As I like to say, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #34
The world moves forward, as Putin pushes the U.S. backward. C Moon May 2018 #35
this was important for one not talked about reason. DonCoquixote May 2018 #36
I think attitudes changed after this woman died LittleGirl May 2018 #38
This is actually also a growing issue in the US, though I don't know if we've yet... moriah May 2018 #40
My hometown LittleGirl May 2018 #43
Yea!!!!!!!! paleotn May 2018 #42
This is what happens when women stand up and speak out. The oppression is finally recognized flibbitygiblets May 2018 #44
1983 CountAllVotes May 2018 #45
Ireland is moving forward - and we're in danger of returning to the dark ages... Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #46

calimary

(81,181 posts)
1. Well, how 'bout that!
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:12 PM
May 2018


Another victory for women's autonomy! It's HER body. SHE gets to decide. Full stop.

Jedi Guy

(3,184 posts)
32. I don't think he does.
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

He has Turnberry, which is in Scotland. If he has a property in Ireland, I've never heard of it.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
6. I'm hopeful as well.
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:20 PM
May 2018

I'm still scared, because even exit polls might have errors.

But I'm hopeful.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
10. That is a very good point.
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:25 PM
May 2018

A very good point indeed, and I intend to point that out to people.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
9. Hopefully this will be as big a margin as this suggests, so that it ends the argument
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:24 PM
May 2018

once and for all here in Ireland, because we are only going to become more secular and liberal.

On a personal note, having seen the crap the No side have been carrying on, this is a massive humiliation for them...dee-fucking-lightful.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
13. On behalf of America itself, I apologize for the pro-fetus ones of us...
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:34 PM
May 2018

... who came over there with pictures of dead embryos thinking that was 1) how to change minds or 2) that it was any of their GD business.

I'm sure the debate within your country was bad enough without people in ours coming there and adding to it.

I am embarrassed by every one of them.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
14. I was surprised to meet one of them.
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:56 PM
May 2018

We were hanging up some YES posters near the college in Sligo and he came up to us. He wanted to know when we thought life began, and what our views were. He wasn't aggressive, just subtly trying to get his point across. The ladies weren't for turning, though, and he went away. We did find one of his leaflets on my windshield when we got back to the car.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
22. Truly
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:38 PM
May 2018

Im pretty sure that poster campaign was a huge mistake. I met no one that thought it was in good taste.

Great day for Ireland.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
23. Yes and those (mostly men) standing at roundabouts with big posters of bloodied fetuses, over the
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

last couple of days, was desperation stuff.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
26. Absolutely
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

And I heard so many parents talking about how much they resented having to explain to the 6, 7 or 8 year old kids why the doctors want to murder the babies.

It was just too OTT for Ireland and it was a huge own goal IMO.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
33. My in laws
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:11 PM
May 2018

Are both well over 65...twonof the best people you'd ever meet... And No voters. Anyway. My mother in law who I love like my own mother asked me which way I was going to vote. I said I was gonna vote my conscious.

My 11 year old daughter then blurted out that I was voting Yes, because "mama is voting Yes and dada always votes the way she does".

Lol.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
39. Oh, of course he will make this about him. How dare the Irish suck up all this attention.
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:35 PM
May 2018

Besides, the NK deal is off, and Mueller is breathing down his neck. And he was SO CLOSE to getting that Pulitzer. Time for a tantrum!

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
15. My understanding is that the end result will be allowing abortion up to 12 weeks
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:25 PM
May 2018

If the US passed a referendum limiting abortion to 12 weeks, I suspect wingers would be thrilled and we'd be outraged. Nevertheless, if these percentages hold, it's a new day in Ireland and a wake up call for the Catholic Church. The Magdalene Laundries and other scandals shook that relationship, to be sure.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
18. 12 weeks unrestricted and up to 24 weeks in very specific circumstances. The Catholic Church will be
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:35 PM
May 2018

rocked to its core by this result, far more than the showed during all the scandals. The spell is broken.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
41. No one wants a hell of a lot to do w/the Catholic Church in Ireland these days
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:57 PM
May 2018

Lots of empty churches, that is for certain.



StevieM

(10,500 posts)
16. Most anti-choice people are not ashamed to admit their position.
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:26 PM
May 2018

Exit polls, like pre-election polls, do have a margin for error. So it may be less than 68 percent. But the margin is likely going to be very high.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
20. I would have accepted 51-49, but 60+ kills this as an issue. Many of the 40% or so, No voters are
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:37 PM
May 2018

over 60. This country is only headed in one direction.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
27. It was actually 87-13 among voters who are 18-24.
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:55 PM
May 2018

And 83-17 among voters who are 25-34.

Those numbers are stunning. Even among younger Americans, who are much more liberal than the nation as a whole, you won't see numbers like that.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
25. If it's a guy interviewed next to his wife?
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:47 PM
May 2018

That's when I see people potentially refusing to admit their no vote.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
19. It was a great day
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:36 PM
May 2018

Huge turnouts and a huge margin.

Great day for Ireland. Glad i got a vote and used it for positive change.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
28. Strange. I thought the opposite effect would be more prevalent.
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

That people wouldn't want to be so public about a "Yes" vote. Exit polls are considered very accurate, I think, so I'm sure it will pass.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
37. I'm just scared.
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:21 PM
May 2018

I sincerely hate that Irish women have suffered as much hardship as they have because of this law.

I hope that it's very accurate, if not even a higher percentage agreeing it should be the woman's choice, and if nothing else having Brits being the ones Irish women have to go to for this particular health care procedure (where they aren't paid for by the NHS and the prices might not be regulated) is not cool. At all.

LiberalFighter

(50,828 posts)
29. I noticed on the news that it appeared Irish citizens living abroad
Fri May 25, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

were flying back to Ireland to vote on this issue.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
34. As I like to say,
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:12 PM
May 2018

if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. But don't for one second think that your beliefs in this matter can trample mine. I'm not going to force you to have an abortion -- China does that -- but you have no right whatsoever to keep me, or any other woman from having one.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
36. this was important for one not talked about reason.
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:16 PM
May 2018

When England finally has to own up to Brexit, Ireland nor Scotland have to follow them. Indeed, Scotland only stayed in the UK because England promised to stay in the EU. What this means is that Ireland will have a chance to be part of Europe, as opposed to being England's prisoner. However, if the Catholic Church continued to dominate Ireland, then it would be a hindrance, as France, italy, Spain, etc have pretty much told the church it can go to Hell.

Welcome to the world ireland, I wish America was joining you, but we have our own Church-savages to defeat!

moriah

(8,311 posts)
40. This is actually also a growing issue in the US, though I don't know if we've yet...
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018

... killed a woman. We've come damn close -- but the physician on duty refused to follow the directions of his bosses and just let her die like what was obviously happening before his eyes.

The ACLU is trying to address if Catholic hospitals can Constitutionally provide substandard medical care, not even inform their patients of options that secular authorities say offer the best outcomes for the mother and let her choose to go to another provider before the situation is critical, and still be immune from lawsuits.

With Catholic-owned medical chains buying up hospitals left and right, and most women who are experiencing a miscarriage not at all thinking that it's by medical definition a "spontaneous abortion" -- to them, they're losing a pregnancy, not trying to abort -- most aren't going into a Catholic facility because they WANT nuns and priests to have more of a decision in their medical care than they themselves or their physician.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
43. My hometown
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:01 PM
May 2018

has a catholic hospital and they won't do abortions either. That's in Pence's state of Indiana which I refuse to live in ever again. A bunch of hypocritical christians.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
44. This is what happens when women stand up and speak out. The oppression is finally recognized
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:18 PM
May 2018

and a country responds to give women the right to control what happens to our own damned bodies.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
45. 1983
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:53 PM
May 2018

I traveled to Ireland for an extended trip and traveled all over Ireland on a bus/rail pass in 1983. It was a dirt cheap way to travel and suited me well as a solitary traveler.

It was ILLEGAL to have birth control in your possession at that time.

I recall seeing a young woman pushing a pram and it had twins in it and she was ready to pop out another one. She had a line of children behind her, her kids. No husband in sight. She appeared to be absolutely exhausted, I remember that much!

I don't know how she may feel today if she is still around (she was probably my age at that time -- late 20s). Why do I remember this so well? Because I thought it was horrific to see a young woman with so many kids, another one on the way and when does his ever end I thought to myself.

At that time, the main question I was asked is "Why don't you have any children?". My answer was simple, I don't want any children, that is why.

I am glad to see this change finally. It sure took a long time.

I think the crimes of the Catholic Church have left a bitter taste in the mouths of the Irish. The godly pope wasn't so damned godly after all. Things HAD to change and so they did.



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