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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:36 PM May 2018

'Trump's son should be concerned': Wiretaps show Trump Jr. met with Putin ally

Source: Yahoo News

Michael Isikoff Chief Investigative Correspondent,
Yahoo News•May 25, 2018

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville in May, 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.

Jose Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as “El Padrino,” his godfather.

“Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI,” Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshin’s meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”

The comments by Grinda were the first clear sign that the FBI may be investigating Torshin, possibly as a part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Torshin — a close political ally of Vladimir Putin — had multiple contacts with conservative activists in the United States during the election, seeking to set up a summit between the Russian president and then-candidate Trump. Although the summit never transpired, Torshin did meet briefly with the president’s son at a private dinner in Louisville during the May 2016 annual convention of the NRA. A member of the NRA since 2012, Torshin has been a regular attendee of the group’s conventions in recent years and hosted senior members of the group in Moscow.

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'Trump's son should be concerned': Wiretaps show Trump Jr. met with Putin ally (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
I love the smell of "Friday afternoon" on most Fridays now!! Thanks for posting, Judi Lynn! Leghorn21 May 2018 #1
It's Just Spilling Out All Over THe Place Me. May 2018 #2
Goddammit. MontanaMama May 2018 #3
Alrighty then RandomAccess May 2018 #4
That's kind of like the Treason Trifecta TheRealNorth May 2018 #5
Why would the NRA have anything to do with Russia? zaj May 2018 #6
Valid observations. And I think someone has the answers. It probably starts with "Follow the money" erronis May 2018 #13
NRA funnels Russian black money to the USA Maine-i-acs May 2018 #18
Wow, I am dumbfounded almost every day thbobby May 2018 #7
Hope they drag this thing out for how ever long mitch96 May 2018 #8
When all this finally comes out.... paleotn May 2018 #9
We have NEVER had a house cleaning like this COULD be... IF it happens. pangaia May 2018 #12
Piketty: Crash, Depression and two World Wars were the last sharedvalues May 2018 #16
When all of this comes out ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2018 #24
What's bad is duforsure May 2018 #10
HAHAHAHAHA... Fredo met with the Godfather RockRaven May 2018 #11
There must be a treasure trove of European intercepts of non-US citizens speaking with Sr. and Jr. NCjack May 2018 #14
I've always thought that our allies intelligence services would want to help Mueller YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #21
Thieving Trump Crime Family. sharedvalues May 2018 #15
I heard that when the news about his meeting w/the Russians was leaked. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #17
I've been waiting for this story for about a year. MelissaB May 2018 #19
The collusion gets worse every day, this is far greater than almost anyone imagined bucolic_frolic May 2018 #20
I'd really like to know how this implicates the useless wretch. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #22
Kick red dog 1 May 2018 #23
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #25
But...but...but... jpak May 2018 #26

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
3. Goddammit.
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:41 PM
May 2018

Everyday there is more evidence that these self enriching traitorous assholes are guilty of selling our republic. Just when I think there is no bottom, boom! Further down we go. One step forward two steps back.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
5. That's kind of like the Treason Trifecta
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:51 PM
May 2018

Russians, Trump, and the NRA. One concern I have is if there is anything incriminating, will it be admissible as evidence?

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
6. Why would the NRA have anything to do with Russia?
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

As an American trade association, what objective business might the NRA have in Russia? Why might they have a need to travel to Moscow? I'm trying to see it through the NRA's eyes. I can't image that this started as an effort to expand into Russia, but I also can't imagine it was originally an effort to launder Russian money into US politics either.

That seems like where it might have veered over time.

erronis

(15,250 posts)
13. Valid observations. And I think someone has the answers. It probably starts with "Follow the money"
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

All of the people that we know who are involved are obsessed with money and power.

And I'm sure there was some careful analysis by the plotters within and outside of the US to find conduits that could be used to channel money.

Real-estate is of course primary. Membership organizations (NRA/PACs) are good. Trusts and other multi-layered corps work.

I'd really like to have the problem of where to stuff an extra $1M without it being detected. I like a firm mattress.

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
18. NRA funnels Russian black money to the USA
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:37 PM
May 2018

Then to rightwing candidates via NRCC and PACs.
Good for NRA, good for Russia, good for Republicans.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
7. Wow, I am dumbfounded almost every day
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:52 PM
May 2018

Thanks Judi Lynn! The traitorous trump mafia is being exposed as the organized crime family they are. After eight years of an honest and intelligent black president, racists and bigots elected trump. They must be so proud. Not to mention stupid and hateful. My God, how could we let this happen in America? And it is not just trump. The entire gop is complicit. So much smoke and so many Americans bitch about unpatriotic kneeling while hating minorities more than they value America.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
9. When all this finally comes out....
Fri May 25, 2018, 07:59 PM
May 2018

it will shake this country to its foundations. But, I think it's necessary every couple generations to clear out the dead wood. We've not had a really good house cleaning since 70's with Watergate, the Church committee, et al.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. Piketty: Crash, Depression and two World Wars were the last
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:28 PM
May 2018

Those terrible events were what it took to reduce wealth inequality a century ago.

Let’s hope we don’t need that again.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
24. When all of this comes out ...
Sat May 26, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

Both the Trump sons, and Ivanka, and of course Kushner, they will all receive their pardons.

So, from a Trump point of view, no harm done.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. What's bad is
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:11 PM
May 2018

Trump senior will be putting calls into someone to stop what they're doing to him or he'll use our government and his position to hurt them , just like he does everyone else. While the GOP Congress do nothing to him for it.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
21. I've always thought that our allies intelligence services would want to help Mueller
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:14 PM
May 2018

Trump's attacks on our FBI, our CIA and NATO are horrible for our traditional European allies as well as us.

Plus, the attacks on our spooks have probably pissed off a lot of their international contacts who would be happy to help fry OrangeTurd.

Hopefully this is just the beginning of the information we get from friendly intelligence services.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
15. Thieving Trump Crime Family.
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:27 PM
May 2018

Like many GOP billionaires, the Thieving Trump Crime Family will do anything for money. Step on American values, screw other Americans- whatever necessary to stuff more money in their own pocket.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. I heard that when the news about his meeting w/the Russians was leaked.
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:31 PM
May 2018

Months later, and nothing has happened. And Kushner, also at the meeting, has had his security clearance reinstated.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
20. The collusion gets worse every day, this is far greater than almost anyone imagined
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:02 PM
May 2018

so many high level contact, so many countries, so many people around the President involved, some American organizations involved.

I'm finding it frightening nowadays

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