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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:22 PM May 2018

Fentanyl Bust In Nebraska Seizes 118 Pounds Of Opioid Drug Enough To Kill 26 Million People

Source: Tech Times

The Nebraska State Patrol made a history-making drug bust as it seized 118 pounds of the opiate drug fentanyl last month.

Largest Fentanyl Seizure In Nebraska

The bust is the largest fentanyl seizure in the history of Nebraska and among the largest in the United States.

The drugs were seized during a routine traffic stop. Nebraska State Patrol Col. John Bolduc said that the troopers became suspicious of a semi-truck that was driving on the shoulder lane, prompting them to search the vehicle, which eventually led to the discovery of the illicit drugs concealed in a hidden compartment.

The troopers did not immediately test the drugs out of caution given the dangerous nature of the substance. They initially thought that most of the drugs were cocaine but further testing revealed these was all fentanyl.

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Fentanyl Bust In Nebraska Seizes 118 Pounds Of Opioid Drug Enough To Kill 26 Million People (Original Post) jpak May 2018 OP
I still think that this issue needs to laid at the feet of this family.................. turbinetree May 2018 #1
Raymond and Mortimer Sackler manufactured, aggressively marketed, and sold...OxyContin Wwcd May 2018 #5
yeah, and using pot makes people turn to heroin too... not. guess what? people have been using TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #26
Blame them for a drug they didn't manufacture, that's been illegally... moriah May 2018 #6
This Hekate May 2018 #9
How long until Cheetolini takes credit for this? eom bluevoter4life May 2018 #2
I find it very interesting... jmowreader May 2018 #3
True enough, but this was transport-related, I suspect . . . hatrack May 2018 #7
Note to self ToxMarz May 2018 #12
*SNORT* hatrack May 2018 #17
And yet they prosecute the friends of users, not those sell the shit. McCamy Taylor May 2018 #4
Dumb question: where does fentanyl come from? Is this manufactured outside of legit manufacturers? Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #8
china among other places.... getagrip_already May 2018 #15
Ah makes sense. Thanks. Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #18
Illegally manufactured fentanyl is a huge problem, and... moriah May 2018 #10
China is one of the largest producers. LuckyLib May 2018 #13
The story is a little confusing, esp. about probable cause dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #11
Somebody may have dropped a dime FakeNoose May 2018 #21
From one Turbineguy May 2018 #14
sure he does, but he is doing it by denying drugs and healthcare...... getagrip_already May 2018 #16
The article doesn't answer many questions Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #19
The War on Drugs marches on CountAllVotes May 2018 #20
Generally speaking, legal pharmaceutical manufacturers of fentanyl don't ship it in... Princess Turandot May 2018 #23
Brought to you courtesy of the dark web Moral Compass May 2018 #22
true, but the War on Drugs is such a convenient tool to terrorize/control "undesirables;" that's TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #25
Yes because the war on drugs was always about workinclasszero May 2018 #27
the war on drugs hurts more people than it helps. people wouldn't be using street drugs and mixing t TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #24
Lets see...around 7.1 MILLION KILLED World wide last year by cigarettes........ Bengus81 May 2018 #28
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. Raymond and Mortimer Sackler manufactured, aggressively marketed, and sold...OxyContin
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:51 PM
May 2018

Weighing in at a conservative $14 billion, the Sackler family entered Forbes’ Top-20 List of America’s Richest Families.
How did this family generate such a lofty sum?
In short, Raymond and Mortimer Sackler manufactured, aggressively marketed, and sold the most notorious painkiller ever created, OxyContin.


Nearly four out of five new drug addicts say they started out abusing painkillers such as OxyContin. Prescription painkillers, according to NIDA, are the most commonly abused drug in the United States.
MORE...


These people see human beings as suckers, fools, & gullible, just born to be exploited as a means to wealth.

Greed for money truly is the root of all evil.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
26. yeah, and using pot makes people turn to heroin too... not. guess what? people have been using
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:44 PM
May 2018

and abusing drugs since the beginning of time. there's a new "epidemic" every few years according to the government.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
6. Blame them for a drug they didn't manufacture, that's been illegally...
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:54 PM
May 2018

... manufactured since the '70s?

I was lucky, despite my definite addictive personality and family history, that because of the second I got sent to Alateen along with my older sister. I learned about being careful about anything used to temporarily escape reality, because it was always waiting when you came back. I learned the difference between physical dependence and psychological addiction.

If I hadn't picked up cigarettes, I could probably say that I have never been addicted to anything. Temporarily physically tolerant/dependent when medical necessity required it (benzodiazepines), but was able to taper easily because I'd known just how dangerous those fuckers are and been very careful. It might be hard to kill yourself with them, but if you don't taper properly quitting can itself cause seizures and death. Quitting heroin cold turkey is extremely uncomfortable but won't kill you -- my ex-husband had a humane version done where essentially they knocked him out for the worst. Quitting benzos cold turkey kills people every year because they just don't understand.

Still, the solution for a patient whose brain is now totally dependent on this drug isn't to assume they're an addict or treat them all the same. My grandfather's heart doctor apparently didn't know everything his regular doctor had him on, and he was having so much angina the chronic pain and muscle issues weren't really on his radar. Back then Valium was routinely prescribed as a muscle relaxer (thank God for Flexeril and the many better others developed since), and while everyone poked fun at him over his codeine prescription, I suspect they were already giving him something for pain -- heart pain hurts. He probably didn't even think about the Valium.

In a few days he rapidly deteriorated, became acutely psychotic and having seizures. This was scary because his sister still lived at the State Hospital at this time. The shrink on consult asked what all meds he took. Granny brought back a suitcase, and sanity was restored.

Now, obviously you've got a patient with literally a suitcase of drugs of opiates and benzos and sleeping pills and everything else and a wife who doesn't understand what any were for so had brought all she could find in the house, even expired ones. You see they were all prescribed by the same doctor, just not the one who admitted him. You learn why he's been taking all these drugs -- a debilitating neuromuscular condition.

Do you tell him he needs to stop, or tell him he needs a medical bracelet noting he's on certain meds?

In 1978, a medical bracelet.

In 2018, we seem to treat all dependency, even such a dependency as my grandfather didn't realize he had until he lost his damn mind (if there are any nurses in the house, they'd agree most pill poppers know exactly when it's time for the next dose, even of a benzo, and aren't likely to not ask -- it never occurred to him, he assumed since he was in the hospital that whatever they were giving him was correct), as addiction.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
3. I find it very interesting...
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:43 PM
May 2018

that the most massive hard-drug busts happen in Trump states.

The reason is obvious: the despair that drives people to serious drugs makes a carnival barker like Trump look pretty attractive. People in Hillary states realized Trump was just saying anything to get elected.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
7. True enough, but this was transport-related, I suspect . . .
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:59 PM
May 2018

This was near Kearney, NE , as is I-80, and it was a semi driving on the shoulder that cued up the highway patrol search.

The guys in the truck were from New Jersey, though not sure if that's really material to the shipment.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
17. *SNORT*
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:11 PM
May 2018

Yeah, why is it always guys in cars loaded with cocaine or meth or whatever, it's always that they're pulled over for speeding?

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
4. And yet they prosecute the friends of users, not those sell the shit.
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:47 PM
May 2018

I guess because those who sell it have paid off law enforcement and have lawyered up.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
15. china among other places....
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

China has a lot of labs that do this in bulk, like tons at a time bulk, And because of the amount of trade we do with them, it is possible to slip it through with legitimate products.

If it were a domestic lab, you wouldn't see this quantity I suspect. They probably broke bulk on the west coast and were shipping it east in smaller batches.

This amount is mind boggling when you consider how little is used per dose and how little it takes to od.

Unbelievable. But there it is.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
10. Illegally manufactured fentanyl is a huge problem, and...
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:38 PM
May 2018

... they've found more than one domestic lab.

Sometimes I just don't know. Would we be better off if we did what other countries do and have mild opiates combined with Tylenol or Ibuprofen "behind the counter" so people only expected a prescription for a painkiller for Serious Stuff? You'd kill your liver trying to get high off of the formulations available BTC overseas, and that's why we'd done combinations for even heftier ones -- an opiate by itself, without something in combination, was always a triplicate prescription and at least theoretically highly regulated.

Or would it just make the problem of people going for illegal/diverted opiates worse?

Is it truly just that doctors don't know how to properly prescribe? I know a person who is only functional because of his meds, after having his left arm and leg both nearly crushed, still needing more surgeries, who has to fight like no one should have to for enough medication to function (and what he's given is damn low).

Yet there were doctors writing triplicate prescriptions weekly to a person because she broke an ankle.. for four years?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Civil-Jury-Finds-Virginia-Doctor-Liable-Opioid-Death-473262733.html

She'd certainly have been better off if she'd not seen that doc.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. The story is a little confusing, esp. about probable cause
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:47 PM
May 2018

truck that was driving on the shoulder lane,...ok, got that

so they search..and find drugs concealed in a hidden compartment. ..hmmmm...that took some effort, how did they know to keep looking for hidden compartment.?

And then they found white powder, but....did not immediately test the drugs out of caution, but did think it was cocaine...whattt?
So if they thought it was cocaine, why did they not test it on site?

I get it was fentanyl, just wondering why/how the stop/search was so determined.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
21. Somebody may have dropped a dime
Mon May 28, 2018, 10:29 AM
May 2018

Maybe the cops got a tip and were already following that truck. They just waited for the driver to make a mistake so they could pull him over. That happens more than most people realize.


getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
16. sure he does, but he is doing it by denying drugs and healthcare......
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:09 PM
May 2018

and nutrition, and housing, and.....

rather than providing a deadly drug directly.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
19. The article doesn't answer many questions
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:19 PM
May 2018

Was the fentanyl from a legitimate pharmaceutical manufacturer or some home-based lab ? One hundred and eighteen pounds of . . . what ? Raw, unprocessed fentanyl or was it in pills ?

The statement released: "The troopers did not immediately test the drugs out of caution given the dangerous nature of the substance." Well then, how did they know that if they didn't test anything ? Isn't this rather reckless ? How would you know what you're dealing with in those containers ? What if it had been anthrax ?

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
23. Generally speaking, legal pharmaceutical manufacturers of fentanyl don't ship it in...
Mon May 28, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

...a truck with nothing in its actual cargo area, hidden under a panel, looking like this:



The article in the OP is from a tech publication. From a local news source:

From: http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/pounds-of-fentanyl-enough-to-kill-more-than-million-people/article_37809613-706c-54a3-80c6-7c5a3c2b18a3.html

...Troopers stopped an eastbound 2013 Freightliner semitrailer truck driving on the shoulder near mile marker 280.

According to court records, the truck had U.S. Mail markings and faded markings from another company. The trooper followed the truck with emergency lights for two miles before the truck finally pulled over.

The troopers became suspicious because the truck was empty, there was no electronic log, the driver was nervous and visibly shaking, and the driver and passenger had different stories about why they were in California for 10 days, according to the probable cause affidavit.

When troopers searched the vehicle they found a hidden compartment with the drugs in the otherwise empty trailer.

Moral Compass

(1,517 posts)
22. Brought to you courtesy of the dark web
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:16 AM
May 2018

About a year ago I was trying to source psilocybin mushrooms (also know as "magic" mushrooms or simply "shrooms&quot .

I was wanting to experiment with micro dosing.

Many decades ago I had a lot of experience with shrooms and acid. I have first hand experience with strangely enhanced performance--both physical and intellectual--when under the influence. However, my current position and lifestyle would not allow being up all night tripping or walking around with the pupils of my eyes dilated so far as to make my eyes a strange, shiny black. Plus it is pretty hard to act normal when you're tripping your brains out.

But microdosing might allow me to tap into that thing that I tapped into back when I was a teenager.

Now, what in the fuck does this have to do with a fentanyl bust in Nebraska you are asking yourself?

It's really quite simple and it has to do with shopping. On the dark web.

In my pursuit I downloaded the Tor browser, a Tor add-on that allows for searching the dark web... then jumped out into the dark web.

Within 15 minutes of amateurish exploration I found one of the major online drug marketplaces (since shut down by a major FBI/Interpol bust) and discovered a number of things.

One was that I shit out of luck in terms of sourcing shrooms.

Two, I could get LSD in a number of strengths: 50 mcg, 100 mcg, and a 150 mcg (*mcg is micrograms). Then I decided to look for hydrocodone and other opiate analogs. Hydrocodone and Oxycodone--no problem. Cheap and orderable by the pound. Dextrmethorphan? Yep. Amphetamines? Yeah, buddy!

Then I decided to search for fentanyl--not because I wanted any but because of all the news about overdose deaths.

And there it was.

Fentanyl and carfentanyl by the ounce, kilo, pound--whatever you want. Carfentanyl has no know safe human dose. Fentanyl in very small quantities is used as an anesthetic and pain killer for intractable cancer pain. It is lethal in very small doses. Fentanyl is hard to take safely--especially if you don't even know it is in what you're taking. Prince died because he took what he thought was oxycodone (Percocet or Percodan). It was fentanyl. Tom Petty. Same deal. He thought he was taking one thing and it turned out to be fentanyl (A pin head of carfentanyl can kill almost anyone. Again, it is not not intended for human use at all.).

With bitcoin, other digital currencies, or a Western Union funds transfer I could have bought any of this. It would have been completely untraceable. Guess where all this is coming from? Yeah, you got it...China.

I could have become a major drug dealer with a few mouse clicks. Have the product sent to a purchased mailbox and there would be no way to trace anything.

And that is what is going on today. You still have to smuggle heroin and cocaine. Fentanyl you can just buy off the dark web and have it mailed to a mail box. There's really no way to stem this particular tide. Not unless we start opening every package that comes from China via UPS, Fedex, and DHL.

The truth of the matter is that, except in rare instances, people are not dying from prescribed opiates.

Rather, when they get cut off they turn to the black market.

The black market's supply chain is completely polluted with fentanyl and carfentanyl. There are even anecdotes that dealers and cutting cocaine with fentanyl. It is cheap and plentiful.

People will continue to die while our government, which is still addicted to interdiction, tries to solve a medical problem with harsh law enforcement.

The problem could be solved with legalization of all drugs--even the "bad" ones. So that people know what they're buying. So, that when these people want to get off the drugs they can access medical help.

This bust changes nothing. It is only going to get worse until we, as a nation, come to our senses and make it all legal. Remember, we didn't have much of a drug problems until the drug prohibition.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
25. true, but the War on Drugs is such a convenient tool to terrorize/control "undesirables;" that's
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:38 PM
May 2018

why the PTB will never let it be ended; not until there is a massive uprising by the people, anyway.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
27. Yes because the war on drugs was always about
Tue May 29, 2018, 08:57 AM
May 2018

arresting and locking up non whites and throwing away the key.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
24. the war on drugs hurts more people than it helps. people wouldn't be using street drugs and mixing t
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:34 PM
May 2018

mixing them with alcohol and other drugs if they had access to legitimate pain meds and some education. cops have been breathlessly announcing "record seizures" of every drug under the sun for 50 years, and it hasn't done a single iota of good. throw in the billions of dollars that have been literally flushed down the toilet, all the lives that have been ruined or lost, and i think it's safe to say that the war on drugs had been a colossal failure. and yet there are people right here on DU who'd like to see this war expanded even more, and carried on for at least another 50 years.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
28. Lets see...around 7.1 MILLION KILLED World wide last year by cigarettes........
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:25 PM
May 2018

Why don't the seize that crap before millions more DIE?

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