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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon May 28, 2018, 04:43 PM May 2018

Trump's fluid approach to national and economic security is leaving his allies baffled

Source: The Washington Post




By David J. Lynch and Damian Paletta
May 28 at 3:01 PM

President Trump is merging his national security and trade goals in a blur of tactical improvisation that risks alienating U.S. allies and opening American businesses to costly retaliation, according to several Republican lawmakers, business executives and former U.S. officials.

The president last week initiated a Commerce Department investigation that could lead to tariffs of up to 25 percent on foreign cars, arguing that a flood of imports had eroded the nation’s manufacturing base and threatened the nation’s security.

The potential auto tariffs — which would hit Mexico, Canada, Japan and Germany hardest — are the latest sign of the president’s fluid approach to national and economic security that has left allies and adversaries baffled over U.S. intentions, according to foreign diplomats.

The proposal has irritated close allies like Germany and the United Kingdom while inviting demands for similar protection from an ever-expanding list of U.S. industries.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trumps-fluid-approach-to-national-and-economic-security-is-leaving-his-allies-baffled/2018/05/28/b08c5908-5f95-11e8-9ee3-49d6d4814c4c_story.html

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Trump's fluid approach to national and economic security is leaving his allies baffled (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
"Fluid approach" "we don't know Wtf he's going to pull next. Help! Help!" uppityperson May 2018 #1
Yes, but to be fair MurrayDelph May 2018 #5
"Fluid" not fooled May 2018 #20
idk. fluid is a pretty good term rpannier May 2018 #21
"Fluid" is polite speak for "Fucked up" LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #22
"Fluid approach" "I don't know WTF I'm doing." Dave Starsky May 2018 #24
"Fluid approach" is media speak for "chaos bred by rank ignorance, constant lies, and stupidity." Squinch May 2018 #26
You left out blatant corruption and vindictiveness YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #28
Easy to explain all of this garbage he's doing... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #2
His "allies" shrink daily. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #3
It's a shakedown obviously workinclasszero May 2018 #4
Hint, hint - see China and OldHippieChick May 2018 #10
Bingo workinclasszero May 2018 #15
That is a gross understatement. BigmanPigman May 2018 #6
Yes. murielm99 May 2018 #16
He does have two guiding principles that can be identified: rurallib May 2018 #7
Fluid approach. Pee tape! truthisfreedom May 2018 #8
+1000, thanks. nt. Mc Mike May 2018 #18
Jeez - who wrote that headline? oberliner May 2018 #9
Boy. No kidding. PSPS May 2018 #17
That Could Have Just Used "Inconsistent" ProfessorGAC May 2018 #29
Agreed oberliner May 2018 #30
Oh, Don't Get Me Wrong ProfessorGAC May 2018 #31
What's so hard to understand? He has no idea what he is doing. SunSeeker May 2018 #11
Trumps core competency not dealmaking w powerful counter-parties. Its duping gullible victims - Frum Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #13
True. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #14
tRump's mendacity & incompetence on security causes US allies to shrug their shoulders in disgust. Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #12
Fluid is a euphamism. Wildly Erratic is more like it. Amaryllis May 2018 #19
Trump can't abide Obama era policies.... SergeStorms May 2018 #23
Hmmmmmmmm........ southrnbelle May 2018 #25
Dementia boy Maxheader May 2018 #27
It does make sense.... the_sly_pig May 2018 #32
Fluid circling the drain, perhaps .... kwassa May 2018 #33
22. "Fluid" is polite speak for "Fucked up"
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:24 AM
May 2018

Calling it "fluid approach" is an attempt to normalize the abnormal. They need to be called out on every abnormal action or use of language to shield the abnormal.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
24. "Fluid approach" "I don't know WTF I'm doing."
Tue May 29, 2018, 04:54 AM
May 2018

I'm going to use that euphemism the next time I screw up royally at work.

"Starsky, what in the hell ever possessed you to tell our best client to 'go piss up a rope'?!"

"Relax, boss! I'm just going with a more fluid approach."

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
2. Easy to explain all of this garbage he's doing...
Mon May 28, 2018, 04:51 PM
May 2018

Massive conflicts of interests (his interests) vs. the rest of the world, period. This explains it 100% if you look at his puzzling actions...it's all about his business interests, period.

Scum-in-chief, and chief rip off artist...He'll go down w/ multiple conflicts of interests...massive corruption, and the like.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. It's a shakedown obviously
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:08 PM
May 2018

Crime family boss Trump threatens tariffs until countries pay up with sweetheart deals for his hotels/golf courses or special deals for his kids.

ZTE anybody?

How fucking dumb is the news media in this country? Or do they think we are all fools?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
10. Hint, hint - see China and
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:47 PM
May 2018

all the trademarks recently issued to Ivanka. That's how to get good treatment from Cheeto. Just grease his palm or that of one of his children.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. Bingo
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:16 PM
May 2018

Trump: Hey Japan/Germany, nice little auto industries you got there. Would be a shame if anything happened to them.

Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Greasy palms extended.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
6. That is a gross understatement.
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:17 PM
May 2018

Realistically, everyone is very aware and has been that the moron has no idea what the Hell he is doing domestically and internationally. More importantly, he doesn't want to know, learn or care about governing. He has no love for this country and his only reasons for running for office were money and fame. He sold this country for those two things. RESIST! REMOVE! Peace.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
7. He does have two guiding principles that can be identified:
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

!) will I or my family make money on it? and

2) How will Putin (and maybe Xi) view it?

Those help clarify things somewhat.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
29. That Could Have Just Used "Inconsistent"
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:21 AM
May 2018

It's not a pejorative term, but it's way closer to the truth.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
31. Oh, Don't Get Me Wrong
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:58 AM
May 2018

I'd be ok with a pejoriative as well. But, if the editor was looking for something neutral, they sure could have come up with something better than "fluid".

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
11. What's so hard to understand? He has no idea what he is doing.
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:50 PM
May 2018

He is just flailing, but thinks his arbitrary actions are perfect. He is such an egomaniac that he thinks he can operate on his "genius instinct" without planning, deliberation, or understanding the issues.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
12. tRump's mendacity & incompetence on security causes US allies to shrug their shoulders in disgust.
Mon May 28, 2018, 05:58 PM
May 2018

There, fixed the headline for you, WaPo.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
23. Trump can't abide Obama era policies....
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:59 AM
May 2018

still being used successfully in his administration. He, and his base, demand that everything "Obama" be destroyed ASAP. So Trump will saber rattle, huff and puff and bluster, call everyone names, then go back to the Obama era policies - now calling them his own - and brag to Americans about what a wonderful economy there is, and how much more fair and equitable "HIS" trade and economic policies are over Obama's. The deplorables will believe it, hell.....Trump himself will believe it, and history will once again be re-written by a man with no more intelligence than a concrete lawn ornament.

 

southrnbelle

(7 posts)
25. Hmmmmmmmm........
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:52 AM
May 2018

His "fluid approach"???

Is that a nice way of saying he doesn't know what the f*ck he's doing?

Our allies are not baffled.

They know exactly what he is.

What baffles them is why the Republicans let him get away with it.

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
27. Dementia boy
Tue May 29, 2018, 07:06 AM
May 2018

has no qualms about forgetting the handshake with one person and taking
another with more gold to offer..Add to that what many have called psychological
problems...ie dementia. What do his buddies not understand about that?

There were concerns about ray gun ronny..during his reign. About his age
and mental state..The words bandied around by the gop was
"all was cool" cuz ron had brilliant advisers.

the_sly_pig

(740 posts)
32. It does make sense....
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:59 PM
May 2018

... if your sole objective is to destroy. Scary to think what will come out of the ashes. Likely a lot fewer people.

For good or bad, the government of the United States has been a global stabilizing force. Divide and conquer is both the oldest and most effective tactic.

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