Boehner: 'There is no Republican party. There's a Trump party'
Source: The Hill
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 05/31/18 11:13 AM EDT
Former Speaker John Boehner (R-Ill.) said Thursday that the Republican Party has been completely co-opted by President Trump.
In an interview following his address at the Makinac Policy Conference 2018 in Michigan, the former House Speaker accused his fellow Republicans of abandoning their political ideals for those professed by Trump.
"There is no Republican party. Theres a Trump party. The Republican Party is kinda taking a nap somewhere," Boehner said. In the interview, Boehner added that Trump was clearly the "most unusual" president the country had ever seen.
"It's too divided," Boehner said of the Trump administration, explaining why he did not want to return to Congress.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390051-boehner-there-is-no-republican-party-theres-a-trump-party
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,614 posts)You and your minions in the GOP house, by obstructing everything Obama and the Dems wanted just because, contributed enormously to the division that exists now. So fuck you very much for that.
potone
(1,701 posts)He is their creation. Decades of government bashing, racist baiting, poor despising, union busting, wealth worshipping, truth denying only-Republicans-are-real-Americans claiming, misogyny-masked-as-Christianity promoting, paranoia inducing poisonous cocktail have led us to this to our present deplorable state. Every single day I wake up shuddering with fear at what Trump and his gutless minions in Congress will do next.
RKP5637
(67,089 posts)what they think is fame.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)ultimately.
I know most say not, but I say they are.
Capable of mass violence.
Zorro
(15,724 posts)For the past 40 years the Republican Party has promoted the policies Trump is now implementing. They are Republican Party policies, and now they're all running away from them.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Zorro
(15,724 posts)For years they've been blaring that their shit sandwich was good for you.
machoneman
(3,999 posts)is a very bad, corrosive, anti-everything that is good and great about America, blood-thirsty cult thrust upon all of us, now did he?
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Don't get pissed when he terrorizes the villagers
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)They need to take responsibility - whatever happened to the grown-up party?
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)PoorMonger
(844 posts)You turds dont get to cop out like that. Republicans and their shit policies and tactics led directly to this. If you are upset at how fast it escalated thats on you too.
I say this often when I talk about the problem to people here in Nebraska because its so Republican. Only Republicans or self identified conservatives can start fixing their party. Its past the point where they would ever listen to someone like me, a proud liberal. But I know that there have to some principled conservatives out there who could at least try and make the case that the party needs to dump Trump.
relogic
(155 posts)Whats that? Like principled cops rallying their union to protect the murderous, thuggery of their colleagues? My take on principled conservatives - they wouldnt be selfIsh conservatives if they were principled.
PoorMonger
(844 posts)Of course the people you describe arent the principled conservative thinker that Im referring to. But take some of the never Trump Rs you see in the media sphere. They were smart enough to never back Trump.
But why arent they trying to lead their party back from the darkness? Im thinking of folks like Richard Painter who has consistently been a voice against Trump. But when it comes time to move into the fray for real hes out in MN trying to run as a Democrat when he isnt one.
Or think about strategists like Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt , and Nicole Wallace. I enjoy their little barbs at Trump and their seeming outrage but its not enough. These are professionals who identify with conservative views but they arent actually choosing to use their experience to try and take their party back. Not saying each of them needs to run, but they used to work at getting Rs elected. They could either work to help moderate Ds in red states or help find Republicans who arent batshit crazy.
What Im saying is I want these people to take responsibiliy and move people back toward something reasonable. The conservatives in this country wont listen to reason when it comes from me or you... but they might if Republicans
relogic
(155 posts)team. Im a true-blue progressive that doesnt moderate my positions when the opposing team amputates my legs when I move in their unfriendly direction.
Condescension is subjective.
PoorMonger
(844 posts)I dont want Dems to move anywhere closer to Republican positions. I want Rs who arent under Trumps thumb to move back toward reason and help voters in my state do the same
You are ascribing a false position to me simply because I say that Republicans are the only ones who can effectively talk Republicans into change.
relogic
(155 posts)Perhaps you know a substantial number of repubs that are still agreeably persuaded toward normal facts. I dont. What I see are too many traitors and criminals of that label for whom reason and compromise are dirty words. It simply defies my reason to think after 50 years of post Goldwater extremism reasonableness from a accountable core of them is not to be expected.
I cant say Im the most optimistic person. But I do live in a heavily Republican state. And again, I agree that they wont listen to me an unabashed liberal and proud Democrat. But there may be those who are conservative who could have success speaking to them. The never Trump Rs are the best example I have for a group that might have a chance.
Even shitty Boehner might do good work if he came to terms with what his party is now, and admitted that Trumpism is the brand of Republicans. Its what They did to themselves. But for a party that says they are all about personal responsibility the seemingly sane ones that still exist would rather just say shit about how their party is gone or it left them, or its taking a nap. That is bullshit and a cop out.
relogic
(155 posts)Sad that such a once caring element of our population could be so silent in the face of such treason and corruption.
BumRushDaShow
(128,527 posts)HE was the architect of the dysfunction of the GOP and only left after the monster he helped to create, nearly ate him alive. THIS is your baby Cheeto.
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)...because he wasn't RW enough, or confrontational enough. Boner actually made some compromises with Obama (early on) that enraged the teabaggers. So Boner was out and Paul Ryan got his arm twisted, he really didn't want to be Speaker either.
The demolition of the Republican Party has been going on for the last 30 years, since Reagan essentially.
BumRushDaShow
(128,527 posts)when he chose to continue to enforce the "Hastert Rule", where they generally only attempted to move legislation if it meets the test of "the majority of the majority" (with only GOP votes) and they could easily do that by automatically having way more than 218 GOP members (teabaggers or not). Any "compromising" was only because the Senate was still under Democratic control until after the 2014 election, and then that was the end of that. Their own shit sandwich that they hastily made initiated a civil war from within, but they still managed to unite against Democrats in most cases (outside of a few vulnerable members in swing states).
Nixon started the fall of the GOP when the dixicrats switched parties and voted for him en masse.... and that bubbled through Raygun, Poppy, & Shrub. But after the Citizen's United decision in 2010, that is when the bottom fell out and Cheeto Boner lorded over the atrocity that resulted when they courted the astroturf teabaggers to regain the chamber (and the chairs of committees, and of course the Speakership).
dajoki
(10,678 posts)if he was still there he would be right alongside them.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,497 posts)niyad
(113,085 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)The GOP were conned or blackmailed by trump to put putin above our country. He's putins puppet.
47of74
(18,470 posts)You enabled all this shit and you want our forgiveness over this?
I hope you checked the fucking temperature in HELL first.
BeyondGeography
(39,351 posts)Shut up, John.
Javaman
(62,504 posts)gibraltar72
(7,499 posts)Freethinker65
(10,001 posts)Honestly I think many of the old GOP ran on the now Trump-like platform just to get votes from idiot racist sexist non critical thinking voters. All they had to do was convince them their opposition would take away everything near and dear to them (guns, bibles, etc.). They never intended to actually implement the assanine policies, just wanted to stay in power, keep getting elected, and skim $$$ for themselves, family, friends, and donors.
Now we are all fucked, but at least they got their tax payer funded pensions and permanent tax cuts.
TryLogic
(1,722 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)The orange fathead is the natural endgame of 50 years of Republican policies and shenanigans. He is the reductio ad absurdum of everything that party stands for.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)There's nothing new here; just a different branding.