BREAKING: SCOTUS Sends Back North Carolina Partisan Gerrymandering Case Rather Than Setting It for A
Source: Election Law Blog
The Supreme Court has vacated and remanded the North Carolina partisan gerrymandering case, rather than setting it for argument. This is another sign Justice Kennedy is not ready to weigh back in so fast. I discussed what that remand order could mean at the end of my Slate piece on Gill.
But even with a remand the case could be back before the Supreme Court for the next term (even if that next term does not include Justice Kennedy).
If what North Carolina can do is kosher, then there really would be no limits on partisan gerrymandering. This is the case where the state explicitly admitted it was drawing lines solely for partisan advantage
Read more: http://electionlawblog.org/?p=99759
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)At some point, the most exquisitely perfect Gerrymander fails and actually becomes a mathematical catastrophe for its wicked architects. This is that point.
Kidnapping babies will not sell in any district that contains human beings.
lark
(23,099 posts)Only if Russia comes in and massively hacks our election will repugs have a chance. unfortunately, drumpf is doing everything possible to ensure that this happens so we need massive blue wave to counter act their treachery and vote stealing.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I think some active resistance such as the Red Hen action can be useful for waking people up.
KPN
(15,645 posts)If not, I stand ready to storm the Bastille.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)KPN
(15,645 posts)times.
dsc
(52,161 posts)We can get them down to an ordinary majority instead of the super majority they currently have in NC but we can't win a majority under this map. This decision is a grave blow.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)we have been fucked for almost 10 years now...huge majority in Assembly.
KPN
(15,645 posts)plug the hole in the dike with a finger, but that's about it. We won't make significant and lasting gains without a super majority.
The GOP's fascist stranglehold on America will ultimately come down to massive unrest or submission of the masses in my view.
duhneece
(4,112 posts)Republicans comprise about 60% of my county and they dont care. Ive had one yelling argument at Senior Center already and expect more.
I went to Tent City in Tornillo with Beto OR and Congressman Kennedy and I am not brooking this evil....and lack of compassion is the root of evil.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)We DO care and we WILL turn out in MASSIVE numbers this time. We will brook this evil no longer.
duhneece
(4,112 posts)They do love to hate. They care about protecting racists and misogynists.
mnhtnbb
(31,388 posts)this purple state had 7 Repub Reps and 5 Dem Reps. In 2008 it was 7 Dem Reps and 6 Repub Reps (an additional rep had been added)
When the Republicans got done gerrymandering districts after the 2010 census, the fairly evenly divided state resulted in the 2012 election with 55% straight ticket Dem votes and 43% straight ticket Republican votes, yet when the votes were counted we ended up with 9 Repub Representatives and 4 Dem Representatives!
In 2016, it was worse, yielding 10 Repub Representatives and 3 Dems even though there were about 650,000. MORE registered Dems than Repubs, with another 2 million+ unaffiliated registered voters. By then, the Republicans had done away with the straight ticket ballot.
The Republicans in this state--and just about everywhere--do not care one wit about equal representation. All they care about is POWER. And they will do anything to get it. Lie, cheat, steal, and now it seems they are even prepared to commit treason by selling the country to the Russians.
If Democrats do not come out to vote this November, it ain't gonna' be pretty going forward.
dsc
(52,161 posts)which was won by McIntyre.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)same thing, almost a million more dem votes cast at times than Rs (though a fair amount of that difference are longer standing "Reagen democrats".
We also tend to even split R and D for governor and senator.
But, due to some of the most absurdly gerrymandered districts in the country, we have 13 R and 5 D congressman, and similar discrepencies in the state house and senate.
We caught a break and the state courts upheld a case, and when the Rs jacked around put forward a really fair map for congress that we will have for the fall. But, the state constitution is written differently and we haven't broke through on the state house and senate.
AND, they threw a complete hissy fit and are far from finished in trying to rewrite the laws to get their gerrymandering reimposed ...
They are just sick, and power drunk.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)the national Congress, wouldn't it be interesting if another
state simply stated that it would not recognize that state's votes
in the House.
FBaggins
(26,735 posts)States don't have an option of "not recognizing" House members... because they also have no role in recognizing them in the first place.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)On the issues, they lose. On public sentiment, they lose. If the law is followed, they lose.
They're just a bunch of flipping losers.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)Supreme Court just wrote a presumption of white racial innocence into the Constitution
Congratulations, guys! Racism is fixed!
IAN MILLHISER JUN 25, 2018, 11:30 AM
The Supreme Court held on Monday that white lawmakers enjoy a presumption of racial innocence, even when they draw legislative districts that empower white voters at the expense of racial minorities.
The thrust of Justice Samuel Alitos opinion in Abbott v. Perez is that the good faith of a state legislature must be presumed, even when there are very serious allegations of racial gerrymandering. The facts of Perez are unusual and unlikely to repeat in the future, but Alitos presumption of white racial innocence could have a significant impact on future cases.
In 2011, Texas drew racially gerrymandered maps. At the time, the Supreme Court had not yet struck down a key provision of the Voting Rights Act. Thus, the 2011 maps could not take effect until after they were precleared by federal officials in Washington, D.C. A federal court in D.C. ultimately concluded that the maps were not legal.
That meant that, with the 2012 elections rapidly approaching, Texas did not have any valid maps that it could use in that election. Worse, though a Texas federal district court drew maps that the state could have used in the upcoming election, the Supreme Court vacated these maps. Thus, in late January of 2012, Texas still had no maps, and primary elections were only a few months away.
https://thinkprogress.org/scotus-presumption-of-white-racial-innocence-gerrymandering-7ad4fdfc82a5/
November 2018 cannot get here fast enough......................
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)Gothmog
(145,225 posts)CRK7376
(2,199 posts)sucks for us. We are just getting beat down daily, or at least it feels that way, between NC Legislature and Trump...November '18 will not get here soon enough!
duhneece
(4,112 posts)...you to fall into bed tuckered out from walking and phoning and registering voters from mid August until November 6.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)The House of Representatives will be controlled by those in power at the state level through gerrymandering. Got it.
So that taxation with no representation tea party was all nonsense. No (decreased) representation is fine for the opposing party even if their votes vastly outnumber yours statewide if you can split the vote by gerrymandering. I am sure the founding fathers intended it to be that way. What a fucking joke.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)that mandates compact districts with minimal division of municipalities, i.e., no "packing and cracking".
This is the federal courts and US Supreme Court did not interfere.
I don't know NC, Texas' or Wisc's state constitutions say, but based on what happened in PA, I'd say your best shot is to argue the districts violate state law.