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OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:54 PM Jun 2018

US Judge Throws Out Climate Change Lawsuits Against Big Oil

Source: US News

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A U.S. judge who held a hearing about climate change that received widespread attention ruled Monday that Congress and the president were best suited to address the contribution of fossil fuels to global warming, throwing out lawsuits that sought to hold big oil companies liable for the Earth's changing environment.

Noting that the world has also benefited significantly from oil and other fossil fuel, Judge William Alsup said questions about how to balance the "worldwide positives of the energy" against its role in global warming "demand the expertise of our environmental agencies, our diplomats, our Executive, and at least the Senate."

"The problem deserves a solution on a more vast scale than can be supplied by a district judge or jury in a public nuisance case," he said.

Alsup's ruling came in lawsuits brought by San Francisco and neighboring Oakland that accused Chevron, Exxon Mobil, ConocoPhillips, BP and Royal Dutch Shell of long knowing that fossil fuels posed serious risks to the environment, but still promoting them as environmentally responsible.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2018-06-25/us-judge-throws-out-climate-change-lawsuits-against-big-oil



On edit, here's the judge's conclusion:

It may seem peculiar that an earlier order refused to remand this action to state court on
the ground that plaintiffs’ claims were necessarily governed by federal law, while the current
order concludes that federal common law should not be extended to provide relief. There is,
however, no inconsistency. It remains proper for the scope of plaintiffs’ claims to be decided
under federal law, given the international reach of the alleged wrong and given that the
instrumentality of the alleged harm is the navigable waters of the United States. Although the
scope of plaintiffs’ claims is determined by federal law, there are sound reasons why regulation of
the worldwide problem of global warming should be determined by our political branches, not by
our judiciary.
In sum, this order accepts the science behind global warming. So do both sides. The
dangers raised in the complaints are very real. But those dangers are worldwide. Their causes are
worldwide. The benefits of fossil fuels are worldwide. The problem deserves a solution on a
more vast scale than can be supplied by a district judge or jury in a public nuisance case. While it
remains true that our federal courts have authority to fashion common law remedies for claims
based on global warming, courts must also respect and defer to the other co-equal branches of
government when the problem at hand clearly deserves a solution best addressed by those
branches. The Court will stay its hand in favor of solutions by the legislative and executive
branches. For the reasons stated, defendants’ motion to dismiss is GRANTED.
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. Fuck that shit you moron !!!!!!!!!
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018
".... "demand the expertise of our environmental agencies, our diplomats, our Executive, and at least the Senate."

Well fuck me two ways to sunday..
No-- on second thought fuck the judge,... freakin' pea brained, pseudo xtian....

onenote

(42,752 posts)
3. This "moron" as you call him
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 11:21 PM
Jun 2018

is a Bill Clinton appointee who stopped Trump's order repealing DACA protections. His decision here, while you may not like it, was as predictable as the day is long.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
2. This is a bad business.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jun 2018

Warming/climate chaos is THE number one issue
of our day.

The fate of the entire species is at stake ....

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
5. Well said. Our species, along with most other species, is in grave peril.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:11 AM
Jun 2018

We are looking at a game over scenario and a lot of people don't understand that.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
4. It doesn't seem to be a political question as much as a cry for relief.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:03 AM
Jun 2018

Completely disagree. This is why judges put their party on hold as a pre requisite to service. Judgeships are non partisan and any change in that is too easily tampered w ala court stacking and filibustering during a Democrats Admin.

Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
6. Spot on. We can choose to live in a cruel Trumpian "paradise", but hastening the tipping point
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:12 AM
Jun 2018

of global warming irreversibility is what constitutes Americans becoming the world's most egregious vandals.

Even if other nations should succeed in making sufficient sacrifices and developing new technologies to save the human species from extinction, America's shame will never be wiped out any more than the shame of the Holocaust's perpetrators can be wiped out.

I won't be alive to see humanity's extinction or our rescue. Nevertheless, it's unfathomable to me why so many young Americans who have the most to lose do not vote or, worse still, vote for the diabolical global warming vandals which a very high percentage of the current Republicans politicians are.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
7. They need to sue all you automobile owners.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 08:57 AM
Jun 2018

You are the cause of global warming. You should all get a bike and a transit pass.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
10. Some of us live too far.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jun 2018

And rethugians are killing public transportation.

Looking forward to our first electric car.




Calista241

(5,586 posts)
11. Might as well sue all internet users and web sites as well.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 10:09 AM
Jun 2018

Datacenters, switches, basically everything the internet runs on requires power, much of which is fossil fuel generated.

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
8. Some Kids have woken up and smelled the reality, that adults are too stupid to realize the reality
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:49 AM
Jun 2018
https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/04/15/trial-date-set-groundbreaking-kids-climate-lawsuit


By Lorraine Chow, Ecowatch. Reposted with permission from Ecowatch.

A trial date of Oct. 29 has been set for a landmark climate change lawsuit brought by a group of young Americans despite the Trump administration's efforts to halt the case.

Juliana v. United States was filed in 2015 on behalf of 21 plaintiffs who ranged between 8 to 19 years old at the time. They allege their constitutional and public trust rights are being violated by the government's creation of a national energy system that causes dangerous climate change.

The trial will be heard before U.S. District Court Judge Ann Aiken in Eugene, Oregon, according to Our Children's Trust, the non-profit group supporting the plaintiffs. Aiken joined the court in 1998 after being nominated by President Bill Clinton.

“We have our trial date. In the coming months there will be depositions of the parties, defendants' disclosure of their experts, and expert depositions in late summer. We will build a full factual record for trial so that the Court can make the best informed decision in this crucial constitutional case,” said Julia Olson, executive director of Our Children's Trust and co-lead counsel for the youth plaintiffs, in a statement.


Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
9. Like a fox is qualified to guard the henhouse...fools
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jun 2018
Congress and the president were best suited to address the contribution of fossil fuels to global warming,
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