Brazilian loggers 'tied eight-year-old Amazonian tribe girl to a tree and burned her alive'
Brazilian loggers 'tied eight-year-old Amazonian tribe girl to a tree and burned her alive'
By Matt Roper
Last updated at 5:13 PM on 8th January 2012
Loggers in Brazil who had illegally entered an Amazon Indian reserve captured an eight-year-old indigenous girl and burned her alive, it was claimed today.
The child, who belonged to the isolated Gwaja-Awa tribe, is believed to have wandered away from her village to play and got lost in the forest.
The group of illegal loggers who were trespassing in the 1000-acre reserve in Maranhao state, northern Brazil, came across the young girl, tied her to a tree and set fire to her, it is claimed.
~snip~
He said the white loggers had been illegally paying Indians from his tribe, the Guajajara, to let them pull down trees using heavy machinery and chains when the lost child appeared.
More:
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-2083884/Brazilian-loggers-tied-year-old-Amazonian-tribe-girl-tree-burned-alive.html
malaise
(269,103 posts)This is madness
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)Also, the non-indigenous Brasilian's pour petrol on indios as murderous pranks and burn them alive.
Galdino Jesus Dos Santos was the indigenous Pataxo man in Brasil who was set on fire as a joke by the sons of prominent judges and lawyers in Brasilia
Brasil is fucked up.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)There are certainly some disturbing things in Brasil - just as you might find disturbing practices in any country. I don't see that as justification to label the entire country as "fucked up"
"the indigenous Brasilian tribes bury their unwanted children alive"
No, they don't. The video you posted is false. It has been produced by a fundamentalist organisation of missionaries trying to gain public support to take away Indian babies from their parents and saving their lives presenting them to Christianism.
And "the non-indigenous Brasilian's" don't "pour petrol on indios as murderous pranks and burn them alive". Believe me or not, that's not exactly a routine activiy here. I also suppose that Swedens don't engage in rightwing terrorist attacks on a daily basis. That's I avoid calling it a "fucked up" country.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)does not deter crime. THAT being said: THESE SICK SOBS NEED TO BE TIED TO TREES AND BURNED ALIVE!
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)to have the perps fashion their own coffins using wood from trees they felled.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)I'm not pro-death penalty either, it wouldn't hurt me to see these guys literally fry for what they did to her!
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...to be a decent place and some humans are determined to make it otherwise.
PB
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)""Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" is the apt phrase.
The goal is to keep making progress. Some people actively try to scuttle that idea.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)but I'm not. There was a book written in the 1970s called Victims of the Miracle and it chronicles the absolute horrors that have happened to Brazilian native peoples as a result of mining, etc.
mojowork_n
(2,354 posts)There was also a movie in the mid-80's.
The Emerald Forest, from director John Boorman. With Powers Booth as an engineer
working on a construction project, whose very young son is kidnapped by indigenous
folks.
Great, great film, but it never plays on TV because there are (shock!) bare female breasts
in many scenes.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089087/
But on the subject of the OP -- maybe the national media could be tricked in to
paying attention if it's announced (it could be corrected, later) that the girl
was blond, white, and from the suburbs.
Vidar
(18,335 posts)for the most hideous chainsaw accidents for the perpetrators.
mactime
(202 posts)the world sometimes. I was previously reading that the Mexican cartels use 'child burning' as an intimidation method. I don't know if we (humans) are getting worse or if we are just more connected and hear about this more.
I would wager.
If you look at Calhoun's research on overpopulation, you will see similarities in contemporary human interactions.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)DU was outraged but the media....not so much.
PB
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)nt
jwirr
(39,215 posts)forget it.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Words fail me.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)This is unbelievable. Nobody can be that cruel....nobody.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Why burn alive a little girl? What was the purpose? Such level of sadism and cruelty is stomach turning. The poor little angel, how she must have suffered!!!
Sometimes I think that the Mayan prophecy should become reality. It would serve us right. We humans destroy everything we touch.
whathehell
(29,069 posts)I'm hoping against hope that they catch them and deliver justice.
MedicalAdmin
(4,143 posts)These men are animals. And they are working in an isolated location. What do you think they did with that poor girl before burning the body to hide the evidence of what they had done.
Or that is my guess but I am unfortunately too experienced with the dark side of human nature.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Poor child!!! I hope that they find the bastards who did this and punish them accordingly.
MedicalAdmin
(4,143 posts)I spent some time in the Amazon once and the loggers and miners you fun into in these backwoods are choosing to live outside of civilization for a reason.
I wouldn't even be sure that she wandered away. I wonder if she was taken.
...
I need a drink. Or 6.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)There is so much evil and cruelty in this world. Porr little girl!!!
Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)What the hell is wrong with people? I will never..never...never understand this type of brutality against anybody, much less a child. My heart hurts!
patrice
(47,992 posts)to trees, for the forest's sake, not for a holier-than-thou vacation.
Or would that be a little too much to expect of ChurchCo?
whathehell
(29,069 posts)and it cheapens the sheer horror of this incident when you try and use it that way.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Kind of authoritarian of you to completely trash a relatively useful idea, isn't it?
Since when is it bashing to call upon Christians to do something Christian about this situation?
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Who made you gate-keeper here?
whathehell
(29,069 posts)Why should a church, or anyone besides the filth
did this be held responsible?
Sorry, but, it's what's commonly called "a reach".
patrice
(47,992 posts)supports those who are most disempowered in the face of the Oppressor?
Is this not the story of my Lord Jesus?
Sacrifice.
Response to patrice (Reply #34)
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patrice
(47,992 posts)Response to patrice (Reply #37)
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patrice
(47,992 posts)Is THE Truth served by insulting others?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)a child died heinously. bad people did this. end of story.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)Sister Dorothy Mae Stang, S.N.D., (July 7, 1931February 12, 2005) was an American-born, Brazilian member of the Congregation of the Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur. She was murdered in Anapu, a city in the state of Pará, in the Amazon Basin of Brazil. Stang had been outspoken in her efforts on behalf of the poor and the environment, and had previously received death threats from loggers and land owners.
Kinda exactly like that, right? Read the wiki page. I think it covers exactly what you are looking for.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Accompanied by their own media, of course.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)If you are ever in Dayton, stop by the Peace Museum. They have a cool exhibit about Dorothy Stang. Actually, jsut stop by the Peace Museum regardless.
http://www.daytonpeacemuseum.org/
Cheers!
patrice
(47,992 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 9, 2012, 06:44 PM - Edit history (1)
I know it's not much in comparison, but my concrete activism does extend back over almost 30 years now and I have actually financed a couple of buses to DC against the Invasion & Occupation of Iraq. I'm no Dorothy Stang, but I believe that all honest commitment adds up, eventually.
Judi Lynn
(160,588 posts)She was murdered at almost point blank range, and as one of the true, almost extinct group of real humanitarians, she did die trying to protect the helpless in their isolated environment against the will and the greed of powerful wealthy monsters who were prosperous enough to hire people to take the risks with the law by dropping this good woman where she stood, by herself, in the forest.
Regivaldo Pereira Galvão, one of the two ranchers who hired the hitmen
Vitalmiro de Moura (Bida), one of the two ranchers who commissioned the assassination.
Judi Lynn
(160,588 posts)For God (And the CIA)
THY WILL BE DONE
The Conquest of the Amazon:
Nelson Rockefeller & Evangelism in the Age of Oil
by Gerard Colby with Charlotte Dennett
~snip~
The overlapping worlds of government, industry and religion follow each other across the globe as the needs of counterinsurgency, development and saving souls demand: Wycliffe entered the Philippines in the 1950s as the CIA combatted the peasant Huk rebellion, then moved to South Vietnam in the '60s, where the Rockefellers planned a massive development effort around a series of Mekong River hydrodams. But the greatest prize was the vast resources in the continental interior of the traditional US influence sphere, Latin America.
Cam Townsend began as a missionary among the Maya Indians of the Guatemalan highlands in the 1920s, while Rockefeller was directing private disease-eradication efforts in the region. In the 1930s, Townsend launched his own operation and won the heart of Mexican President Lazaro Cardenas, then seeking to break the grip of the Catholic Church over Mexico's Indians. SIL and Wycliffe gained a first Latin beachhead in the revolutionary nationalist Mexico of Cardenas, ironically. But the Mexico operations were only a training ground for Townsend's real destiny--to bring light to the "green hell" of the Amazon, where whole peoples had yet to be "contacted."
Nelson Rockefeller also charted his course to global power through Latin America. In World War II, President Roosevelt appointed him chief of his own office, the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs (CIAA). After a turf war with Bill Donovan's Office of Strategic Services, Nelson's CIAA won exclusive rights to anti-Axis propaganda and espionage--as well as mapping and securing of vital resources for the war effort--in Latin America. CIAA disease-eradication and education projects were directed to those regions where oil, minerals, rubber and other resources needed to be exploited. But a compliant labor source also needed to be secured. Perhaps underestimating the actual degree of Axis intrigue in Latin America, the authors portray a CIAA that merely used anti-fascism as a cover for suppression of indigenous and labor struggles. Clearly there were such instances--as when striking Indian miners in Bolivia were brutally put down in 1942, at a cost of hundreds of lives.
Nelson also saw his operations in these years as a mere prelude to post-war ambitions. Beyond the mines and oilfields of Mexico and the Andes lay the untapped riches of South America's remote interior--the Amazon.
From these beginnings emerged a web of powerful men moving back and forth from the worlds of Rockefeller foundations and the top levels of government power. Rockefeller companies and ranches penetrated the Amazon as Wycliffe began operations there. Through tortuous routes of universities and foundations, Rockefeller money found its way into Wycliffe operations. So did money from US aid and intelligence agencies.
More:
http://www.morc.info/MORC_ThyWill.html
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
(Missionary group known as "Summer Institute of Linguistics"
~snip~
John Perkins provides an example of criticism of SIL activity:
I had heard that (Jaime Roldos, President of Ecuador, 1979-81) accused The Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL), an evangelical missionary group from the United States, of sinister collusion with the oil companies. I was familiar with SIL missionaries from my Peace Corps days. The organization had entered Ecuador, as it had in so many other countries, with the professed goal of studying, recording, and translating indigenous languages.
SIL had been working extensively with the Huaorani and Matsés tribes in the Amazon basin area, during the early years of oil exploration, when a disturbing pattern appeared to emerge. While it might have been a coincidence (and no link was ever proved), stories were told in many Amazonian communities that when seismologists reported to corporate headquarters that a certain region had characteristics indicating a high probability of oil beneath the surface, SIL went in and encouraged the indigenous people to move from that land, onto missionary reservations; there they would receive free food, shelter, clothes, medical treatment, and missionary-style education. The condition was that they had to deed their lands to the oil companies.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~snip~
"The missionaries came in on the cultural, social, and political side of the conquest, their leader influenced by Rockefeller philanthropies and a counterinsurgency network shaped by Nelson Rockefeller's development goals. Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) was hired by military dictatorships and civilian governments, often headed by Nelson's allies, to pacify the tribes and integrate them into national economics increasingly being brought into the North American market. SIL used the Bible to teach indigenous people to "obey the government, for all authority comes from God.""
The massacre and genocide of, for example, the Indians of Cintas Largas, Brazil for the land, minerals and wealth of the land was for the most part officially ignored until 1968, although well documented today. According to Colby and Dennett, "the disastrous impact of missionary activity" remained officially ignored. 'in reality those in command of these Indian Protections posts are North American missionaries--they are in all the posts--and they disfigure the original Indian culture and enforce acceptance of Protestantism.' But officials of the American Fundamentalist missionary organization that worked with SPI [Service for the Protection of the Indian] among the tribes---the Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL), known in the United States by its less scientific alias, the Wycliffe Bible Translators--denied that any genocide took place. The head of SIL's branch in Brazil disclaimed all reports of genocide, and the founder of SIL, William Cameron Townsend, denied any knowledge of the massacres at all." [Colby, p.3-4]
http://www.akha.org/content/missiondocuments/sil.html
patrice
(47,992 posts)service to others. It's a quid pro quo, not faith in what is not seen, and, btw, it's the opposite of what we see in the life of Lord Jesus, so you're quite right in observing that there are missionaries and then there are "missionaries", which is why I posted as I did in this thread.
What these people and their forest need is someone(s) to stand up for them for their OWN sake and for no other.
Judi Lynn
(160,588 posts)With the appearance of faster communication maybe we can hope the TRUTH will eventually be able to get around as quickly as well-planned propaganda.
As Mark Twain has been claimed to have said (along with Charles Haddon Spurgeon, an English preacher), "A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on."
whathehell
(29,069 posts)and dismemberment of a 19-year old girl"
Woman forced to watch teen's torture slay
OKLAHOMA CITY An Oklahoma City man kidnapped a 20-year-old woman and forced her to watch others torture and kill another woman so that she would cooperate with a human trafficking ring, police said Tuesday.
Jimmy Lee Massey, 33, was arrested on a warrant for first-degree murder in the death of 19-year-old Carina Saunders, whose dismembered body was found stuffed in a duffel bag in the Oklahoma City suburb of Bethany, Police Chief Phil Cole said. Formal charges are pending.
<...>
An affidavit filed in the case said Massey told investigators he kidnapped the 20-year-old woman and forced her to watch others kill Saunders. He also provided details of Saunders' torture, killing and dismemberment and disposal of the body.
Cole said there was no evidence the 20-year-old knew Saunders, but she and Saunders both knew Massey. He said the kidnapping and killing were meant to send a message that the 20-year-old and her friends faced the same fate unless they cooperated with a human trafficking ring focused on prostitution and a related drug ring.
Read more: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-21/news/30544441_1_human-trafficking-ring-torture-slay-drug-charges
patrice
(47,992 posts)whathehell
(29,069 posts)and it happens to conform to the subject matter of the thread, that being sadistic human evil.
patrice
(47,992 posts)If ONE isn't enough, none will ever be enough. Once we head down that road, it will *A*L*W*A*Y*S* require more and more and more . . . . This why Jesus did what he did.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)seat?
patrice
(47,992 posts)not virtual/digital, struggle here, directly for those who ARE most disempowered by what is happening around them.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)child who was killed for greed. Get over yourselves, all of you.
whathehell
(29,069 posts)BTW, there's nothing to indicate the child was "killed for greed"....If you read the article
you'll find a quote which says "They just did it because they wanted to...Just to be evil".
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)was a factor. They didn't see her as human. Religion doesn't fit this. The child is dead and the fuckers who did it are evil and self aware. That is the point. I don't see the other point, IMO. I really wish the earth would get slammed by an asteroid sometimes.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)The UN should send in investigators to see what else has been done to the Gwaja tribe. I have a suspicion that they will find that there has been systematic violence against these people in an effort to (illegally) obtain the wood from their jungles.
Also sounds like it is time for an international boycott of Brazilian lumber until their government does something.
Wind Dancer
(3,618 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)This makes me want to throw up.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)imagine how you can take a tiny girl, tie her to a tree and find gas to splash her with all the time she is crying. Then to do this?!?!?! I can't think here.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I've read elsewhere on DU that if a girl lies about her name, then she pretty much deserves anything one can imagine.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)It reminds me of innocent blacks who were lynched in the South..........simply horrible.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)This is really not much better than fiction.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)stockholmer
(3,751 posts)Also look into "balas perdidas" aka 'lost bullets'. Brasil is brutal, sexist, rigid-classed, ultra-violent culture overall. I have been there several times, and have 2 extremely close friends there. It is heartbreaking that a country with so much going for it is a living hell for so many.
Hotler
(11,433 posts)speak up and show outrage. Oh never mind. What was I thinking????
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)humus
(135 posts)Until we end our violence against the earth- a matter ignored by most pacifists, as the issue of military violence is ignored by most conservationists-how can we hope to end our violence against each other? The earth, which we all have in common, is our deepest bond, and our behavior toward it cannot help but be an earnest of our consideration for each other and for our descendants.
-Wendell Berry
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)which should have been obvious from the original story just being third person hearsay
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Brazil_says_no_evidence_loggers_burned_indigenous_girl_999.html