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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:42 PM Aug 2018

Fox News editor: We should stop having reporters at Trump rallies

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by DonViejo (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Hill

Fox News politics editor Chris Stirewalt suggested on Friday that news outlets cease sending reporters to President Trump's rallies, saying that their presence allows Trump to use them as a "prop."

“We should stop having reporters at those Trump rallies," Stirewalt said on Fox News' "Outnumbered." "Everybody should stop having reporters penned up like veal in the back of those things for the president to use as a prop, and then some of the reporters exploit then that for their own personal benefit."

Stirewalt added that "this is not helping anybody. Get out of the hall. Leave the cameras, get the reporters out of the hall. Quit letting him use you as a foil."

Stirewalt also suggested an end to televising the White House press briefings, calling them "counterproductive" and "showboat theater."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/400307-fox-news-editor-we-should-stop-having-reporters-at-trump-rallies



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Fox News editor: We should stop having reporters at Trump rallies (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2018 OP
It's like everything has reached an extreme point and is now shifting bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #1
Never thought I'd say this: ABC, CBS, MSNBC should follow the Fox example on this. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #23
Trump wants them as props Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #33
If only the media would take these words seriously. If only!! riversedge Aug 2018 #2
They will do what Rupert tells them to do. Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 #3
It will come mgardener Aug 2018 #21
Who said this?? "Fox News politics editor Chris Stirewalt"? Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #4
I always wondered about the pen. forgotmylogin Aug 2018 #5
Except Cheeto wants cheering mindless fans, and the reporters refuse to do that FakeNoose Aug 2018 #27
I suspect that at least half of the troglodytes who show up at Trump "rallies"... maddiemom Aug 2018 #39
No cameras, no cameras, no cameras! Sneederbunk Aug 2018 #6
That is the answer. True Blue American Aug 2018 #31
NO NONO NO NO on the briefings. Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #7
This. trc Aug 2018 #30
Do it. You first, Fox. Please. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #8
"Having reporters penned up like veal in the back" is the hallmark of Trump rallies dalton99a Aug 2018 #9
that's awesome! janterry Aug 2018 #10
Fux News should be the ONLY news people/camera there donkeypoofed Aug 2018 #11
Trump must be even more awful than we think if he's lost Fox. LisaM Aug 2018 #12
He wouldn't do the rallies if there were no cameras The Blue Flower Aug 2018 #13
Right conclusion, wrong reason. Qutzupalotl Aug 2018 #14
I agree. Stop covering his stupid ass rallies, and his stupid ass backers until he holds a formal.. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #15
Yeah, if the media covered Trump the way they covered Obamacare Johonny Aug 2018 #22
just think d_r Aug 2018 #16
State Media aka Fox News breaks from Orange Clown djacq Aug 2018 #17
I'll believe it when I see it. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #19
I think Trump should request mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #18
Then they can frame the message. Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #20
I wonder if this has anything to do with the split between the Koch brothers and the Trump GOP renate Aug 2018 #24
First time I think I ever agreed with Fox. Let the morons devour themselves in delusions Pepsidog Aug 2018 #25
surprises me that came from fox news barbtries Aug 2018 #26
He misspelled "fool" relayerbob Aug 2018 #28
No bad idea! We need to know what that asshole is saying! Initech Aug 2018 #29
I agree Rebl2 Aug 2018 #36
Like Nazis telling Jews to stay home so they won't be shot. Stop the criminal not the victims. Snellius Aug 2018 #32
FOX? was the first to come up with what i've thought the other networks should hav decreed long ago. maddiemom Aug 2018 #34
Said they should stop.. cannabis_flower Aug 2018 #35
It surely sounds like a great thing, but is it? defacto7 Aug 2018 #37
Jonathan Alter said exactly the same DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #38
I am cynical KSNY Aug 2018 #40
Trump Fatigue. Overexposure. No Vested Interest Aug 2018 #41
Locking... DonViejo Aug 2018 #42

bucolic_frolic

(55,104 posts)
1. It's like everything has reached an extreme point and is now shifting
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

Is this guy signalling he's quitting his job, or is Fox now going to try to make an end run around the other networks on the issue of CREDIBILITY??

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Never thought I'd say this: ABC, CBS, MSNBC should follow the Fox example on this.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:46 PM
Aug 2018

Will wonders never cease.

Covering Trump rallies is giving oxygen to the Putinites. Choke them off.

Roy Rolling

(7,630 posts)
33. Trump wants them as props
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:19 PM
Aug 2018

The media should send a pool reporter and not play Trump's game.

Fuckin' amateur.

riversedge

(80,791 posts)
2. If only the media would take these words seriously. If only!!
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:46 PM
Aug 2018

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
3. They will do what Rupert tells them to do.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:47 PM
Aug 2018

If he sees writing on Wall, he will flip on Trump.

mgardener

(2,355 posts)
21. It will come
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:31 PM
Aug 2018

Trump is too unstable to leave Fox alone for long.

Leghorn21

(14,090 posts)
4. Who said this?? "Fox News politics editor Chris Stirewalt"?
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

Dayam

forgotmylogin

(7,952 posts)
5. I always wondered about the pen.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

I know it's part humiliation, but I was thinking it's so the venue can load a sparse crowd behind Trump and then block off sightlines so the cameras only see him surrounded by people and can't film empty seats.

FakeNoose

(41,599 posts)
27. Except Cheeto wants cheering mindless fans, and the reporters refuse to do that
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

TV reporters are not - and can't be - shown cheering or reacting in any way to his speeches. So if they stand behind him stony faced, how does that get the crowd worked up? It doesn't, so it's a stupid tactic. It demeans the journalists who are trying to do their job.

Who cares if the seats are empty, isn't that part of the story? Why did Cheeto go to a rally if nobody is there to listen to him? It really is time to end this charade.

maddiemom

(5,179 posts)
39. I suspect that at least half of the troglodytes who show up at Trump "rallies"...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:36 PM
Aug 2018

give a flying f--k about the issues or his policies. They just want a chance to cut loose and be as deplorable as they possibly can. Finally a backlash about the "political correctness" that has been stifling their underlying bigotry and willful ignorance for the past few decades.

Sneederbunk

(17,483 posts)
6. No cameras, no cameras, no cameras!
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:50 PM
Aug 2018

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
31. That is the answer.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:12 PM
Aug 2018

Cable news needs to quit showing his lies over and over,too.

Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
7. NO NONO NO NO on the briefings.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:51 PM
Aug 2018

Dammit. Reporters attending briefings are laying down a marker that it is the Constitutional right of the people to question their president and that the working press preserves this Constitutional right day after day after day. This president would be very gratified to have the press relinquish that watchdog role.

It is only the press standing between the people and tyranny now that Republicans in Congress have abdicated their oath of office. It is critical for us to protect and defend the free press.

trc

(830 posts)
30. This.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:07 PM
Aug 2018

The press must be there to witness and bear witness to what this president and party are doing every day. Without daily briefs, these fuckers could do whatever they wanted without having to explain, or at least try to obfuscate, their daily crap. No press at the briefings and rallies mean no first hand knowledge of what is happening. We need the press to hold these shits accountable.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
8. Do it. You first, Fox. Please. . . . nt
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:53 PM
Aug 2018

dalton99a

(94,106 posts)
9. "Having reporters penned up like veal in the back" is the hallmark of Trump rallies
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:55 PM
Aug 2018

Every reputable news network should have boycotted him in 2015.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
10. that's awesome!
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:56 PM
Aug 2018

donkeypoofed

(2,188 posts)
11. Fux News should be the ONLY news people/camera there
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:57 PM
Aug 2018

Propaganda State TV has a responsibility to be there and they're the only ones Spanky wouldn't try to have hurt

LisaM

(29,632 posts)
12. Trump must be even more awful than we think if he's lost Fox.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 03:59 PM
Aug 2018

I mean, he's as bad or worse than I originally thought, but if Fox is pushing back, he must really be more nightmarish than is already evident.

He's pretty much broken every relationship he's ever been in, though, so I suppose it's to be expected.

The Blue Flower

(6,486 posts)
13. He wouldn't do the rallies if there were no cameras
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:05 PM
Aug 2018

There would be no point. He loves the cameras.

Qutzupalotl

(15,820 posts)
14. Right conclusion, wrong reason.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:06 PM
Aug 2018

“and then some of the reporters exploit then that for their own personal benefit."

So it’s the exploitation by victimized reporters (read: Acosta), not Trump’s attacks on the free press that is the issue here. Got it.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,454 posts)
15. I agree. Stop covering his stupid ass rallies, and his stupid ass backers until he holds a formal..
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:07 PM
Aug 2018

press conference where he has to answer hard questions. Covering his rallies is tantamount to covering his every tweet, it's a one way conversation. I can't understand why the media hasn't figured this out yet.

Johonny

(26,165 posts)
22. Yeah, if the media covered Trump the way they covered Obamacare
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:40 PM
Aug 2018

the dude would be in Russia right now begging for them to keep financing his debt instead of being in the white house.

d_r

(6,908 posts)
16. just think
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:10 PM
Aug 2018

of the crazy stupid crap they could say if there were no cameras to capture it - hell, the stuff they say with cameras right there blows my mind.

djacq

(1,778 posts)
17. State Media aka Fox News breaks from Orange Clown
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:14 PM
Aug 2018

BigmanPigman

(55,121 posts)
19. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:17 PM
Aug 2018

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
18. I think Trump should request
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:16 PM
Aug 2018

No TV at his rallies.

Every rally brings clips of lie after lie.

They might not hurt his base, but every person with a brain gets more anti Trump with every rally performance.

Soxfan58

(3,537 posts)
20. Then they can frame the message.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:25 PM
Aug 2018

I want every thing that man says documented on video tape. He is not gaining votes with this BS, that he didn't already have. Let him keep spewing hate and losing votes for both the repervs and himself. Thats my opinion, I could be wrong.

renate

(13,776 posts)
24. I wonder if this has anything to do with the split between the Koch brothers and the Trump GOP
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:48 PM
Aug 2018

Does anybody know which side Rupert is on? I'd have assumed he would follow the ratings (which would mean the Trump GOP), but the biggest money is maybe with the Koch brothers and their ilk.

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
25. First time I think I ever agreed with Fox. Let the morons devour themselves in delusions
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:51 PM
Aug 2018

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
26. surprises me that came from fox news
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:53 PM
Aug 2018

but i heartily agree.

relayerbob

(7,427 posts)
28. He misspelled "fool"
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:05 PM
Aug 2018

Initech

(108,734 posts)
29. No bad idea! We need to know what that asshole is saying!
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:06 PM
Aug 2018

Rebl2

(17,728 posts)
36. I agree
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:23 PM
Aug 2018

I think that’s exactly what Trump would like. No media keeping tabs on what outrageous things he is saying.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
32. Like Nazis telling Jews to stay home so they won't be shot. Stop the criminal not the victims.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:13 PM
Aug 2018

Trump is the one who shouldn't go to these walking-dead conventions.

maddiemom

(5,179 posts)
34. FOX? was the first to come up with what i've thought the other networks should hav decreed long ago.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:21 PM
Aug 2018

I've said as much on several forums and have usually had a lot of agreement. These "rallies" are NOT NORMAL! We learn nothing about national and world activities, except for Trump either whining about how badly he was treated by the media, or how wonderfully he performed (utter lies) on the world stage.

cannabis_flower

(3,931 posts)
35. Said they should stop..
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:22 PM
Aug 2018

not that they were going to stop!

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
37. It surely sounds like a great thing, but is it?
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:28 PM
Aug 2018

Maybe they have determined that Trump is undermining his own base in television land. Shut down the cams and set the narrative as needed to make up for his blundering nonsense.

I wouldn't trust FUX to do the altruistic thing for the common good or to follow the most visible path they portray.

DeminPennswoods

(17,503 posts)
38. Jonathan Alter said exactly the same
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:30 PM
Aug 2018

thing yesterday on Hayes' show, iirc. He and the other conservative guest completely agreed on this tactic.

KSNY

(320 posts)
40. I am cynical
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:42 PM
Aug 2018

Yes, on the surface. However, coming from Fox News, I'm very cynical.
1. The critique seems to be about Jim Acosta's confronting Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the White House Press Conference. So, Jim Acosta/CNN is the problem? Huh?

2. The incoherence of Trump's words at these rallies and the hateful behavior of the audience may turn off some Republicans who rationalized their vote for Trump and make them stay home in Nov. 2018 or vote for Democratic candidates.

3. Perhaps, since Trump is so unpopular with people outside of the hate rallies, the fact that Trump is an avid viewer of Fox News is not helping Fox News's ratings.

4. It seems clear that Fox News wants to be viewed as a serious media outlet (on a par with ...or even above... other networks, mainstream print journalists, and investigative reporters). They even replaced ''Fair and Balanced" with a new slogan "Real News, Real Honest Opinion." If other media organizations followed this suggestion from the Fox editor, this would allow Fox to be seen as a rational media outlet.

This said, I would prefer not to see footage from these rallies, though I appreciate the presence of the press organs that have the economic means to send journalists. Mostly, I read analysis (rather than breaking news), in Mother Jones, the Intercept, Jacobin, the New Yorker, etc.

Breaking news is just one thing after another and the constant barrage of outrages from this administration makes it difficult to digest and, more importantly, to understand what I can DO about it.

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
41. Trump Fatigue. Overexposure.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:46 PM
Aug 2018

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
42. Locking...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:00 PM
Aug 2018

The opinions of a Fox news editor are just that, opinions and not latest breaking news. The editor's opinions are no different than an op-ed columnist's for a newspaper.

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