Omarosa recorded chief of staff Kelly in White House situation room

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill



BY MARY TYLER MARCH - 08/12/18 10:05 AM EDT

Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman said Sunday that she secretly recorded chief of staff John Kelly in the White House situation room.

"This is a White House where everybody lies... you have to have your back," Manigault Newman said on NBC's "Meet the Press" on why she recorded her conversation with Kelly as he was firing her.

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"If I did not have this recording, people would still believe the false, incredible story that I was running around the White House … that I tried to charge the residence of the White House. People would still think that I was trying to set off alarms," she continued. "So yes I recorded myself and I have no regret about it."

In the 20-second recording aired on NBC, Kelly can be heard saying that Manigault Newman can "go on without any type of difficulty" relative to her reputation "if we make this a friendly departure."

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/401439-omarosa-recorded-chief-of-staff-kelly-in-white-house-situation

[ProudMNDemocrat]

1. The recordings alone can describe a hostile work enviornment at the WH....

Not so much to expose secrets. But to describe in words of others, what it is like to work in a dog eat dog environment where everyone has to watch what they say and do.

[Sneederbunk]

2. John Kelly speaking about integrity. Puleez!

[marylandblue]

3. She secretly recorded John Kelly telling her she has integrity issues?

Doesn't making a tape like that prove him right?

[Lint Head]

11. No. Thank God she recorded that asshole. Leakers have

exposed things like the lies regarding the number of Vietcong killed and Nixon's crimes.

[marylandblue]

16. Yeah, if she recorded something embarrassing or illegal

But being calmly fired for integrity issues is about as ho-hum as it gets and pretty self centered to play that tape for others. A lot of places will fire you for secretly.recording your coworkers.

[Lint Head]

20. Why didn't Kelly say specifically say what the integrity issues were?

I have fired people myself. I know how it works. Not being specific opens the door to lawsuits. I'm not a young person and have experienced many HR situations including some with myself. Kelly has openly made racist comments.

[7962]

23. They only played 20 seconds. We don't know what the rest said.

She's selling a book, so she not going to play ALL of anything she's got. She'll want us to buy that book!

[Lint Head]

25. No we do not know what else was said. And to assume that

Kelly specified what those integrity issues were it's just that. Assuming. I have issues with people saying we don't know or what proof there is that something didn't happen. Proving nothing with nothing is suspect in itself. I think there is a word for that. Speculation or nonproof. Speculation does not convict anyone of anything. Unless it's the Salem witch trials.

[marylandblue]

27. Sure, but political appointees are different

They can be fired at any time for any reason and there is no legal recourse. I've seen political firings where it's basically just "goodbye" and the real reason never comes out, but people near the situation knew. Keep the truth quiet and it saves face for everyone, at least that's the thinking.

If he was on tape saying racist things, that would be different, at least politically.

[Lint Head]

38. Correct. And she has the recordings.

[emulatorloo]

51. There's more to the tape than that.

[marylandblue]

53. I've heard a longer version, also seen some news writeups

None of it impresses me. It seems clear she did nothing in the White House, not even close enough to Trump to get a secret tape.

[emulatorloo]

54. He threatened to launch a smear campaign against her.

That’s scummy. Makes sense though as Kelly is scummy.

Not an Omarosa fan AT ALL but she did well on MTP imho

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/exclusive-omarosa-reveals-secret-white-house-recording-with-john-kelly-1297431107564

[marylandblue]

55. Far from the scummiest thing he ever did

and no scummier than a lot of other politicians.

[emulatorloo]

56. Agreed, he's awful

[lapfog_1]

29. he is clearly heard threatening her

by giving her a negative "reputation" for future employment.

This is illegal.

[marylandblue]

34. I don't think it's illegal for political appointees, they get almost no protection at all

Maybe if he used the n-word and said that's why we are firing you, she might have something. But he all he really threatened was to tell everybody about her "integrity" issues, which no doubt are real. Everyone who works for Trump is a sleaze and an enabler.

[lapfog_1]

37. It's not the firing... she is an at will employee

but her exit interview (which he was under no obligation to have with her) was clearly a threat to her future employment.

What he is legally able to do for future employment is to confirm her employment and then optionally give a recommendation. He can't tell her that if she says anything negative about the President or the staff that "it will go bad for her reputation".

Not in the private sector or the federal government. I had to take a *lot* of training on this very point when I worked for and hired people into (and fired them from) the federal government.

[marylandblue]

39. I agree with you with what the law is, but the reality for political appointees is very different

He was more blunt about that reality than is usual. The more usual case is that they say we will happily help you find a new job, with the unstated understanding that if you don't go quietly, we will destroy you.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just can't get worked up about this "scandal" given who Omarosa is and how many terrible things Trump has done. She knew what he was from the beginning, and they used each other all along.

[Achilleaze]

4. "This is a White House were everyone lies..." Freaking republicans

Jesus don't go for lying ass kristo-republicans pretending to respect the Ten Commandments. The whole pack of republicans is going to rot in Hell for all their damn lies to Americans.

[recentevents]

5. Is it wrong

to have alarm bells going off that this White House has people recording from within? Recording from the situation room? It's a possibility I'm not understanding the security within the White House, but her recordings feel troublesome.

[CrispyQ]

47. That was exactly my first thought, too.

WTF?

[exboyfil]

57. The whole thing speaks to Trump's judgement as a minimum

I wouldn't trust a thing she said. The fact that he brought such an incompetent individual into his administration (and she is far from the only one) and had no clue as to what her role was going to be.

She is the one that said we should bow down to Trump. How his decision to bring her in did not ignite the fundie flames still befuddles me.

[Soxfan58]

6. Isn't that a serious security breach?

I mean federal pen. shit.

[braddy]

9. This should be felony stuff, individuals should not be collecting spy data in the White House.

[Zorro]

15. It is a tremendous security violation

She may very well be liable for prosecution.

[7962]

24. I wondered that too.

But was afraid to bring it up, because around here you Can get slammed for anything seen as a defense of the large orange one

[machoneman]

28. Yes, she could be in big trouble.....

...yet she must have weighed that against the 'value' a possibly illegal recording gave her and her book.

[VMA131Marine]

30. Omarosa has potential criminal liability for doing this

It is a huge breach of a secure facility.

[LisaL]

33. Is anybody going to cry if she does get charged for this?

[B2G]

40. Nope, not one tear.

Can't stand her.

[Snellius]

48. Why? Why the bashing? Don't quite understanding the heat of hatred toward her?

Read all the reasons given here but still surprised by the animus. Revenge, money, ambition. Get how one could be suspicious. But having been in the lion's den for so long and having looked evil in the face so personally, respect the expression of outrage of a one-time believer so powerfully pissed. Even if it may be her own fault.

[christx30]

60. I might cry.

I don't have enough popcorn.

[BigmanPigman]

49. Yes, CNN just had a few guests on and said this is shocking

and unheard of! If she can do this, who else has? It is not as much about what was said but the act of recording in the Situation Room. This is a gigantic security breach...HUGE, Bigly!

[hlthe2b]

7. Does this not make Kelly look "good" in comparison? She DID have documented integrity issues...

[Lint Head]

8. I'm now seeing her in a different light. I've experienced people

who bask in the glow of a famous or powerful person to improve their station in life. I now feel she thought she could influence Trump but realized she was in a shit stew of back stabbing boot lickers. She was a boot licker herself. But finally feels she needs forgiveness from people she has wronged. I give her the benefit of the doubt. She does have tangible evidence to back up what she is saying. And John Kelly saying everyone in the White House answers to him is truly disturbing. I know the Chief of Staff kinda runs things but I guarantee you Obama had the last word on everything when he was President.
I have popcorn at the ready for the blow back and continuing story unfolding before us.

[LakeArenal]

14. Bask in the glow of infamy maybe.

[PSPS]

18. LOL. "a different light?" She's mentally defective to her core.

[Lint Head]

22. I've seen this video many times and felt the same as you. People do change.

I know I would be flamed for my opinion. So be it. But I do have forgiveness in my heart even for people who have wronged me in a despicable manner because they asked for that forgiveness.

[procon]

10. Isn't there any internal security measures that can alert, jam or scramble

the use of private electronic devices within the WH? There must be all kinds of restrictions and laws about who and where cell phones and other electronic devices can be used in any govt facility. In Trump's WH do they really think that so called personal honor and integrity is enough to stop with next grifter from capitalizing on a hidden recording?

[Recursion]

12. Is that room not a SCIF?

How the hell are random staff able to bring a recording device into it?

[BigmanPigman]

50. Yes it is!

CNN covered this issue and it is a very serious breach of security. You do NOT ever bring electronic devices in there. She will never work in govt again.

[Sancho]

13. General Kelly should have conferred with Pruitt...

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-scott-pruitt-cone-of-silence-20180420-story.html

He had a cone of silence!

EPA chief Scott Pruitt's cone of silence is straight out of 'Get Smart'

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[LakeArenal]

17. Gawd bless all the WH leakers.

They all have integrity issues.
Thank goodness they have them in this WH

Also thanks to Mueller No Leak

[avebury]

19. Anybody who was watched Omarosa since her Apprentice days

would understand that this is a woman who is about self promotion and staying in the limelight. That it probably never occurred to them that she might be capable of recording people makes Trump and his minons look like they are dumber than a sack of rocks.

That thought aside, the WH is an absolute cesspool of corruption and god only know what all kinds of illegal activity takes place on a daily basis. I would imagine that there are pretty good odds that a lot of people there might be recording stuff in order to protect themselves and cover their asses. They can take away peoples phones and monitor their computer usage but there are all kinds of recording devices out there that don't look like recording devices.

I imagine Mueller's team is looking at the entire WH staff wondering who that might need to chat with regarding recordings.

[yallerdawg]

21. Way to go, Omarosa!

When a 'superior' who has never taken a meeting with you before and has repeatedly asked what you do (without asking you) - a 'superior' who can't even implement controls on recording devices in a secured room! - a superior charged with shutting down the leaks! - and you come out with recordings (also known as evidence of truthfulness)?

Anyone who questions your credibility - like the liars in the White House - better get ready!

I'm looking forward to for the racist pig "October Surprise" tape. She should get with Christopher Steele and find us the "pee tape" which is getting more credible every day!

[HuskyOffset]

26. How the hell did she even have access to the Situation Room at all?

Isn't access to the situation room limited to select personnel? As Director of Communications for the Office of Public Liaison, why would she even be allowed in there?

[pazzyanne]

31. Why should I believe this woman who got on a plane with trump

and went to a rally with him just a couple of weeks ago. Or did I dream this?

[LisaL]

32. She taped it and released the tape.

You don't have to believe what she says, it's on tape.

[pazzyanne]

36. I'm talking about the Omarosa of 2016 and the Omarosa of today.

Those pictures do not match.

[RhodeIslandOne]

44. That was Hope Hicks

[pazzyanne]

46. My bad.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention! I appreciate it.

[jmbar2]

35. Two narcissists at war in the White House

The rest of the world is collateral damage.

Damn I miss President Obama.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

41. Here we have

a woman who's entire career was being an untrustworthy self-indulgent, nasty, attention sponge. She is only popular bc she appalled people on reality shows about the lengths she'd go to to be the polar opposite of, kind, genuine, principled, decent, honest, trustworthy,generous..etc. She's the exact opposite of those things and she is famous for shocking normal people w the flagrancy in which she did it. It's not acting when she does that, that's really her. Shivers....
If we are still on the fence even now (Seriously?) and need Oms tapes to change minds about supporting dt(?), that isn't going to happen. They love this shit, and we treat them like they're civil opposition. In fact we feed a vile base of stories they can howl about, as all these stupid layers, of stupid people, get unpeeled like an onion. This isn't how you run a govt. We are killing our way of life. Are we collectively saying that's ok? Bc EVERYDAY they do stuff to supercharge the damage. Afterall, once you know you are being cheated and destroyed and you do nothing...then that's a form of acquiescense
Listen, people are not as enthralled with reality shows as NY and LA like to think they are. Look at i this way, if you can afford basic cable (Who even does that anymore if they can avoid it?) and all that's on at night on network tv is "The Bachelorette, Big Brother etc, you by default are going to watch them if you refuse to read a book, go for a walk, volunteer somewhere, clean your house...you know, normal stuff. We need wholesome tv again. PRODUCED written scripted tv again. It costs more and requires some talent, but hey,,,..."be best" UGHHHHHH.
I believe America longs for the variety shows of yesteryear. Syndicated shows that gets away from crime and crime investigations (NCIS>>>Whatever the city, it's endless), reality horse shit, should be welcomed. We want escapist tv, not half ass reality shows...The Apprentice? Are you kidding me? A show about firing people...and all of the time you see him on that show...HE"S ALREADY A RUSSIAN COOPERATOR. He's been involved since the late 80's. A show where they found it entertaining to fire people, in often very critical ways. I never liked it. Folks who really did should ask themselves why the act of firing someone is even something someone would want to watch. The "day someone gets fired", is a real bad day for that person, and usually the person who gets chosen to let you go, it's not a happy event. Not all firings are for bad performance. It changes peoples lives almost always negatively.
Point being this is where Mrs Om has made her money. I think the quicker the Om story passes the quicker the less mental damage we all suffer each time we have to endure the next half-wit topic that comes from an Administration. Who let it be known, Russia'r is ok w him, and he'd sell his soul for some dirty deeds he did in a hotel room when he visits there in the 80s-90s-the Aughts etc. Sell his soul, his country, and ALL of us, to keep it quiet. And he's the president of the United States of America and hasn't come close to being removed in 19 months. If it's true, our country is in grave peril.
Rant over. Have a good Sunday everyone.

[Snellius]

42. It's not just the tapes, it's the reason why she knew she had to. She's mad as hell.

She knew what would happen. The press tried to dismiss her, like Todd at first, or on NPR. The "disgruntled ex-employee" said the WH. She knows what the atmosphere and personality and tactics of the president is like. And she's righteously pissed. She has learned from long exposure what he's like and she hates it. With a passion. It's not just about selling a book or getting revenge. She saw evil in the face. She knows this charlatan in action almost better than anyone and her abhorrence is the most powerful damnation I've heard.

[Devil Child]

45. Everyone in Trump occupied Whitehouse has integrity issues

[Power 2 the People]

52. Essentially,he threatens her with launching a government sponsored propaganda campaign

if she does not conform. He is saying keep your mouth shut or you will be harmed. I can't stand Omarosa but Kelly should be fired for this!

"go on without any type of difficulty" relative to her reputation "if we make this a friendly departure."

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

58. Whoops!

But Hillary's e-mails

[LudwigPastorius]

59. Trump only hires the best people.

The best, Jerry!