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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:21 PM Aug 2018

Trump Lawyers' Sudden Realization: They Don't Know What Don McGahn Told Mueller's Team

Source: The New York Times



By Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt
Aug. 19, 2018

President Trump’s lawyers do not know just how much the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, told the special counsel’s investigators during months of interviews, a lapse that has contributed to a growing recognition that an early strategy of full cooperation with the inquiry was a potentially damaging mistake.

The president’s lawyers said on Sunday that they were confident that Mr. McGahn had said nothing injurious to the president during the 30 hours of interviews. But Mr. McGahn’s lawyer has offered only a limited accounting of what Mr. McGahn told the investigators, according to two people close to the president.

That has prompted concern among Mr. Trump’s advisers that Mr. McGahn’s statements could help serve as a key component for a damning report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which the Justice Department could send to Congress, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers realized on Saturday that they had not been provided a full accounting after The New York Times published an article describing Mr. McGahn’s extensive cooperation with Mr. Mueller’s office. After Mr. McGahn was initially interviewed by the special counsel’s office in November, Mr. Trump’s lawyers never asked for a complete description of what Mr. McGahn had said, according to a person close to the president.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/us/politics/don-mcgahn-trump-mueller.html

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Trump Lawyers' Sudden Realization: They Don't Know What Don McGahn Told Mueller's Team (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2018 OP
It's a mistake for #Hitler to be open and honest Cary Aug 2018 #1
My first thought too GusBob Aug 2018 #11
+1000 iluvtennis Aug 2018 #13
Speaking in the most general,.generic terms.... Cary Aug 2018 #14
Considering that both articles Lindsay Aug 2018 #2
This is what I've been thinking. dewsgirl Aug 2018 #4
No you may be right BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #8
yes, the new Judith Miller nt Grasswire2 Aug 2018 #12
Yeah, I have 2nd thoughts about anything that comes from the pen of drumpfs fav journalist. lark Aug 2018 #22
It's NEVER a mistake to be honest groundloop Aug 2018 #3
Very well said Perseus Aug 2018 #18
Suggesting that refusal to cooperate would be better? bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #5
Well of course they meant that he should have lied or obscured everything Perseus Aug 2018 #19
30 hours is a long time Gothmog Aug 2018 #6
Could it be that NONE of Trump's jackal-lawyers knew or at least realized Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #7
FAKE president* Trump's defense just shifted to "my lawyers were incompetent -- NCjack Aug 2018 #9
They'll find out what McGahn said at djacq Aug 2018 #10
But...but.... ThoughtCriminal Aug 2018 #15
Can't Be True or Trump Would Have Fired McGahn TomCADem Aug 2018 #16
What's the big deal? Nothing to hide - right? bitterross Aug 2018 #17
He's cutting a deal. Thunderbeast Aug 2018 #20
They're all crooks and they're all incompetents, so ignore any statements they make. lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #21
I just don't think a respected lawyer like Emmet Flood would make a mistake Calista241 Aug 2018 #23

Cary

(11,746 posts)
1. It's a mistake for #Hitler to be open and honest
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:28 PM
Aug 2018

I have a hard time wrapping my mind around that one.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
11. My first thought too
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:42 PM
Aug 2018

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

He told them the easiest thing to remember, the truth.

They should know exactly what he told them

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. Speaking in the most general,.generic terms....
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:31 PM
Aug 2018

... we need to remember that we are dealing with pathologies.

A shared symptom of these pathogies is their dysfunctional relationship with truth. Some of them earnestly believe that their lies are truth. They have been conditioned by hate radio and Fox.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
2. Considering that both articles
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:32 PM
Aug 2018

have Maggie Haberman's byline, I am suspecting that this is some sort of eleventy-dimensional kabuki from the WH.

But I am known to be cynical, so I guess my opinion needs to be taken with a generous helping of salt.

lark

(23,099 posts)
22. Yeah, I have 2nd thoughts about anything that comes from the pen of drumpfs fav journalist.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:07 AM
Aug 2018

Haberman is not to be trusted.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
3. It's NEVER a mistake to be honest
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:33 PM
Aug 2018

Unless of course you have something to hide, in which case the mistake was committing the misdeed in the first place.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. Very well said
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:19 PM
Aug 2018

Also, I don't know that McGhan can speak to anyone about his discussions with Muller, I have to assume that it is confidential, right?

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
5. Suggesting that refusal to cooperate would be better?
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:46 PM
Aug 2018

Or do they think McGahn should have lied or obscured something?

Strategy of the Innocents

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. Well of course they meant that he should have lied or obscured everything
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:20 PM
Aug 2018

What else would you expect from these elite group of thieves?

 
7. Could it be that NONE of Trump's jackal-lawyers knew or at least realized
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:05 PM
Aug 2018

The WH counsel was counsel for the WH, and not Trump personally?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
9. FAKE president* Trump's defense just shifted to "my lawyers were incompetent --
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 07:20 PM
Aug 2018

therefore, the jury must find me not guilty."

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
16. Can't Be True or Trump Would Have Fired McGahn
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 08:41 PM
Aug 2018

This is Trump's modus operandi. If you don't prostitute yourself entirely to Trump, then you are off the island.

Thunderbeast

(3,411 posts)
20. He's cutting a deal.
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 09:40 PM
Aug 2018

He has been moobed up with Russians for years. Represented Tom DeLay and Jack Abrahmoff in their contacts with Russion "businessmen".

McGahn is in deep shit....and like Gates, wants to see the outside of a jail before he dies.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
21. They're all crooks and they're all incompetents, so ignore any statements they make.
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 12:24 AM
Aug 2018

45's inane, hysterical behavior is the real tell: They're screwed, no matter what they do now.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
23. I just don't think a respected lawyer like Emmet Flood would make a mistake
Mon Aug 20, 2018, 09:21 AM
Aug 2018

Like that. My problem with this story is that it’s not new. Everyone knew McGahn went to see the special counsel nearly a year ago. We even knew how long he was there. He was just one of the parade of Trump employees and cabinet officials to do so.

My concern is that the Special Counsel WANTS to meet with Trump. They’re fucking negotiating over the questions to be asked. While Roger Stone, whom many suspect to be a target of the Mueller team, couldn’t pay enough money to get a face to face with anyone on Mueller’s team.

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