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muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:17 AM Sep 2018

Eight dead after Greyhound bus and truck crash head-on in New Mexico

Source: Sky News

At least eight people have died and dozens are seriously injured after a Greyhound bus and an articulated lorry crashed head-on in the US.

Three children are among those hurt in the collision which happened on Interstate 40 in New Mexico, near the Arizona border.

The lorry - called a semi-truck in the US - was driving east on the dual carriageway on Thursday afternoon when one of its tyres burst, sending its trailer carrying produce across the central reservation and into oncoming traffic, New Mexico State Police said.
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Ten people are being treated at University of New Mexico Hospital, including three adults who are in intensive care - one in a critical condition.



Read more: https://news.sky.com/story/four-dead-after-greyhound-bus-and-truck-crash-head-on-in-new-mexico-11486198

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Eight dead after Greyhound bus and truck crash head-on in New Mexico (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2018 OP
It was a "tractor-trailer" (one common name used where I am) BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #1
Horrible get the red out Sep 2018 #2
Losing a driver could account for loss of directional control.. Maxheader Sep 2018 #6
It was a steering-axle blowout jmowreader Sep 2018 #9
Thanks for that update! BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #11
I went to Arizona for the first time this summer. blueinredohio Sep 2018 #3
In Jersey BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #4
The tire that blew in this incident was not a retread jmowreader Sep 2018 #12
I didn't say or suggest that it was a retread in this particular case BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #13
I just drove this stretch of I-40 west a week ago Zorro Sep 2018 #14
"We also passed a Texas Dept. of Transportation truck driving picking up retread debris" BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #15
More info, including good video here csziggy Sep 2018 #5
So sad Godsuki Sep 2018 #7
The post you responded to says there were. Yonnie3 Sep 2018 #8
Unbelievable shock to everyone involved. No one can ever be prepared for this. No one. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2018 #10

BumRushDaShow

(129,449 posts)
1. It was a "tractor-trailer" (one common name used where I am)
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 06:45 AM
Sep 2018

This is just horrific and sad... Looks like the roof of the trailer portion of the truck split open too when it jack-knifed and fell over and the whole front of the bus was completely crushed...

Some pics -











These types of tractor-trailers are also called "18-wheelers" so wonder if the tire that blew out was actually on the tractor (front/driver) part because the trailer part usually has a number of sets of double tires... Example -

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
2. Horrible
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 07:11 AM
Sep 2018

And our country is in so much shit because of trump I hadn't seen this or read this in US news much, my husband heard about it on radio and told me so I did look for it.

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
6. Losing a driver could account for loss of directional control..
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 01:36 PM
Sep 2018

A wish for the well being of those that made it through
this ordeal...

BumRushDaShow

(129,449 posts)
11. Thanks for that update!
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 06:08 AM
Sep 2018

It's a miracle the driver actually survived that considering what the truck cab looked like.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
3. I went to Arizona for the first time this summer.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 07:33 AM
Sep 2018

Semis here in Ohio can't drive quite as fast as cars and are supposed to stay in right lane unless passing another vehicle. This gives cars a chance to get away from semis. Out there all vehicles can go the same speed which a lot of times causes a big cluster of vehicles. I thought a few semis were going to overturn, whipping in and out of different lanes. It was a beautiful drive but I think if I go back I will fly.

BumRushDaShow

(129,449 posts)
4. In Jersey
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 09:05 AM
Sep 2018

on the NJ Turnpike (I-95), much of the length has separate designated "truck/bus" lanes where although cars can go on those lanes, trucks/buses can't go on the "car-only" lanes - and these different lanes are separated by a wide median.



That way you sortof have a choice to stay far away from those trucks.

For years, I had driven up and down I-95 for work trips - both north to near NYC and south to D.C. metro, and most truckers seem to drive okay and often in caravans. But there are some who are aggressive and I've had to floor it to almost 90 mph just to get far away (and hope a state trooper ain't around ). But when one time I had traveled to Texas and was in a van from Houston to Galveston, I was appalled at all the pieces of debris from truck tire retreads littered on the highway the whole 50+ miles. That raises red flags as to the condition of some of these vehicles - particularly driving in areas that are scorching in summer (making the highways literal furnaces) and with them permitted to go at relatively high speeds.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
12. The tire that blew in this incident was not a retread
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:06 PM
Sep 2018

I know what you were thinking. It is a federal offense to install anything but new tires on the steering axle. The drive tires (the two back axles on the tractor) and trailer tires can be retreads, because if one of those tires blows you can still control the truck. It has happened to me, and when the tire blows you just pull to the side and make a service call.

My guess: slight separation in the tire carcass caused by parking on Southwest truck stop parking lots, coupled with running 65mph (and building up heat as you go) over superheated asphalt, caused the tire to come apart. When that happens you’re just along for the ride. Hit your emergency brakes and hope nothing’s in front of you.

BumRushDaShow

(129,449 posts)
13. I didn't say or suggest that it was a retread in this particular case
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:49 PM
Sep 2018

but only brought up the issue OF retreads used in Texas (at least when I was there) as an issue that could raise the potential for accidents such as this - particularly when traveling on roads in areas where summer temps are continually in the triple digits beginning in June all the way until almost October. In this OP's case, the accident took place in a part of New Mexico which has a somewhat different climate from SE Texas!

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
14. I just drove this stretch of I-40 west a week ago
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:56 PM
Sep 2018

It seemed almost 2/3 of the traffic were semis, and pretty much all were going the speed limit (75) or a little less.

We also passed a Texas Dept. of Transportation truck driving along picking up retread debris by the interstate.

Temps were all hovering around 100 degrees from Oklahoma to Arizona.

BumRushDaShow

(129,449 posts)
15. "We also passed a Texas Dept. of Transportation truck driving picking up retread debris"
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 03:10 PM
Sep 2018

Oh thank goodness!!!



(the other thing was that by the time my van got to Galveston, it was completely covered in bug splats! )

Yonnie3

(17,483 posts)
8. The post you responded to says there were.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 05:47 PM
Sep 2018

It says, "Three children are among those hurt in the collision which happened on Interstate 40 in New Mexico, near the Arizona border. "

So even sadder?

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