'Powerful senators won't believe me': New violent and explicit accusation surfaces against Brett Kav

[alwaysinasnit]

Source: Rawstory

The Senate Judiciary Committee posted a letter from an individual. Kavanaugh was asked about the evening prior to Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony last week. The individual’s name was censored, but the content is violent and disturbing.
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“Kavanaugh and a friend offered me a ride home,” the person wrote in her letter. “I don’t know the other boy’s name. I was in his car to go home. His friend was behind me in the backseat. Kavanaugh kissed me forcefully. I told him I only wanted a ride home. Kavanaugh continued to grope me over my clothes, forcing his kisses on me and putting his hand under my sweater. ‘No,’ I yelled at him.”

The source said that the boy in the backseat reached around and put his hand over the source’s mouth and held her to keep her in the car.

“I screamed into his hand. Kavanaugh continued his forcing himself on me,” the source continued. “He pulled up my sweater and bra exposing my breasts, and reached into my panties, inserting his fingers into my vagina. My screams were silenced by the boy in the backseat covering my mouth and groping me as well.”

The accuser then said that Kavanaugh slapped her and told her to be quiet before forcing her to perform oral sex on him.

“He climaxed in my mouth. They forced me to go into the backseat and took turns raping me several times each,” the source said. “They dropped me off two blocks from my home. ‘No one will believe if you tell. Be a good girl,’ he told me.”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/powerful-senators-wont-believe-new-violent-explicit-accusation-surfaces-brett-kavanaugh/

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If this is true, holy crap!

[LandOfHopeAndDreams]

1. Sounds Similar To Avenatti's Client nt

[spotthebird]

19. Sometimes the motivations of people should be explored

Especially if the person is only a letter.

This should not have been released without verification.

[Eliot Rosewater]

76. Not anymore, this guy is guilty of lying and most if not all accusations.

There was a time we did that but caution NEVER happens when it is a democrat.

[Grasswire2]

78. maybe it was verfied. FBi may have already vetted it. nt

[magicarpet]

2. Polygraph all three of them,..

... These fratboys are pigs.

[niyad]

72. you should not insult pigs.

[magicarpet]

74. Oops,.. snakes and vipers.

[TwistOneUp]

3. He's toast. nt

[dchill]

4. Somebody has got to start talking.

Somebody has got to start listening.

[meadowlark5]

5. Who is she? Was this anonymous? If not, the FBI needs to talk to her

And if this happened when he was at Georgetown Prep, that was Maryland and that would be felony rape with no statute of limitations. It would be hard to prove, but charges could be filed on him for felony rape.

[MichMary]

16. I read an article about this earlier today

The letter was signed "Jane Doe." FWIW

[mobeau69]

32. Maybe not that hard.

Could make a deal with the guy in the backseat.

[procon]

6. OMG !!! Is the FBI aware? nt

[alwaysinasnit]

8. Letter was sent to Kamala Harris

[procon]

10. There's hope. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. Good for her in bringing this to the public's attention.

[YessirAtsaFact]

7. This is horrible, but if they are anonymous, it doesn't much weight

Given what I've read about Kavanaugh in the last few weeks I have no problem believing this account.

However, it is easy to deny an anonymous accusation.

And I do understand why the victim wouldn't want to come forward.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

13. Especially a claim this serious.

It's totally understandable that someone making a claim this serious knows their life will be turned completely upside down if they go public or talk to the FBI. It's a very brave thing to do, even anonymously.

Relentless media exposure (public and social), death threats for months (both to family and friends), not to mention the embarrassment of "coming out" after this long to her family. And, when it involves a Republican, the torture will be life-long because they never forgive criticism of another Republican.

Knowing how brutal the internet is for finding anonymous people, I would be reluctant to say anything considering my age and health.

......... ........

[Drahthaardogs]

42. I suspect it's bullshit

Thrown to try and discredit legitimate victims, but you never know

[Eyeball_Kid]

52. I don't like the "Powerful Senators" phrase. It doesn't sound like an authentic description.

There's no need within the context of the letter to ascribe "Powerful" as a descriptor for "Senators". We know they're powerful. It's a given. So the use of the adjective begs us to imagine a time when Senators weren't powerful? No. This was a contrived piece of deception. It's a summoning from the rabbit hole.

The allegation is phony, IMO. I wish it weren't.

[brush]

62. Without someone to come forward and put their name on it, it can't be used.

Anonymous letters are not credible, although that scenario sounds like you know who.

[pangaia]

53. I was afraid to say anything, but since you had the courage...

my instinct for now tells me this is bogus...
Even just by the way it is written....

I am open to being proven wrong....

[Paka]

68. Thank you.

This is a plant. Watch out!

[lamsmy]

75. Agree - this sounds fake.

First, victims usually avoid such explicit descriptions. It just doesn't sound authentic.

Second, I believe BK when he says he was a virgin through high school and into college. He comes across as an insecure bully, desperate to establish his macho creds with his mates, but lacking the animal drive for an all out rape, or the maturity to form a real relationship with a female. He was, and still is, pure bluster. Women are a prop used to convince other men of his manliness. Actual sex with those girls was never part of his game plan.

[kag]

86. Exactly what I thought.

Sounds like something O'Keefe would do.

[Achilleaze]

9. Drunken republican sexual predators have no place in America's leadership

Disgusting...

[Nitram]

71. Well, I guess I wouldn't support drunken Democratic sexual predators, either...

[bluestarone]

11. IF TRUE

This will surely destroy him!! (I'm hoping it is)

[renate]

12. It's on page 10 here; Grassley's staff didn't tell Kavanaugh's lawyer about it ahead of time

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.26.18%20BMK%20Interview%20Transcript%20(Redacted).pdf

(The part about Grassley's staff is at the bottom of p.14.)

[royable]

14. The hyperlink gives a error 404 Page Not Found, but copying and pasting the text works. n/t

[KY_EnviroGuy]

15. Getting a 404 "page not found" error on that link.

(appreciate the effort)

[Tarc]

17. You have to copy and paste the entire thing, DU's forums don't like parentheses in a URL

www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.26.18%20BMK%20Interview%20Transcript%20(Redacted).pdf

Try that. Not clickable, but copy and paste.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

20. That worked, thank you.

...............

[renate]

23. thanks!

Sorry to have left someone else (i.e., you, as it turned out--thank you!) to figure it out... I got a phone call.

[hunter]

88. Working DU link:

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.26.18%20BMK%20Interview%20Transcript%20%28Redacted%29.pdf

The magic is the percent 28 and 29.

[Le Gaucher]

18. Not raising a doubt .. But how can anyone force oral sex withhout a gun?

Can't the girl bite the pecker off?

[Solomon]

24. Damn. I can't believe you went there.

Damn.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. If this happened at the end of a party

then it is possible that she was drunk, so already at a disadvantage.

[PubliusEnigma]

27. Fear will make a fawn lie down for a chasing wolf and give itself to death.

[Kaleva]

59. Actually the fawn lies down to hide from and avoid the predator.

In the meantime, the mother leads the predator(s) away and hopefully survives to return and find the hiding fawn,

[TexasBushwhacker]

35. You're talking about a teenage boy

It can happen really fast and teenage boys are ... quick. The whole thing can be over in seconds. I'm surprised you needed to ask.

[NickB79]

44. And risk being murdered?

She would have been beaten and choked to death if she bit one of them.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

50. Are you serious ??

[torius]

54. They threaten you, that's how.

How do muggers get a wallet? They don't usually rifle through your stuff. Same thing. You're going to bite someone who is bigger than you and is already violent?

[BlueTsunami2018]

57. Too scared not to.

You’ve got to be kidding. Why doesn’t everyone get bit in prison? Self preservation is a powerful motivator.

[NoMoreRepugs]

60. Guessing you've never been in fear of losing your life.

[yardwork]

66. It doesn't work that way.

[davsand]

82. I once heard an off duty cop in a bar spout that same crap.

Lotta arrogance in that statement. I pray you never find out how wrong it is.

Here's a clue, when you are scared you may not live to see the next ten minutes, you do what you have to in order to stay alive. Not everyone has Rambo/Bruce Lee level hand to hand combat skills to fight their way out of a car with two assailants. (I've seen women out there that don't even know how to make a fist--let alone fight off two assailants.) I've been in personal defense classes where I've heard women say that they do not believe in hurting anyone--ever.

As for that cop, he was a first responder in a high profile assault case locally. Imagine what that poor victim must have felt to have been violated by her attackers then violated a second time by some dumbass pig of a patrol cop who thought he was some kind of genius to make a joke like that. I chewed on my own city council member than went to the local city council and threw a fit for the rest of them.



Laura

[libdem4life]

84. It's tough when you're gagging. Duh. n/t

[Marrah_Goodman]

89. It happens every single day in this country

[greenman3610]

21. Beware

Possible ratfucking alert-
Just sayin

[Power 2 the People]

30. +1

Repugs are known for misdirection and deception.

[Turbineguy]

34. This could be a GOP ploy

to tank the guy. This has gone too far, it's out of control. More people are getting dragged into this. They could be big wigs with a lot to lose if the Kavanaugh vortex sucks them in.

[spooky3]

41. I'm wondering about this too. A quick web search

Shows that the story appears on RW sites. It was reported that the letter was sent to Sen. Kamala Harris. She doesn’t say anything about it in her tweets.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

64. Hmm. On RW sites? To show intense smear

Campaign? Or like legit attempt to discredit?

[Qutzupalotl]

48. It does sound too over-the-top to be true, doesn't it?

Like someone is trying too hard...

[Haggis for Breakfast]

51. Sure because there is no such thing as

teen-age boys, from wealthy families, who fueled on arrogance, testosterone, privilege and alcohol didn't engage in "mob mentality." Oh, and one of the boys has a mother who is a prosecutor with unlimited clout.

I'd like to think that this kind of thing doesn't happen.

Except that it does.

[Qutzupalotl]

87. You misunderstand me.

I believe all the accusers who have come out so far. It’s just that this particular account doesn’t ring true. There was no slapping in the Ford testimony, for instance. And “Be a good girl and don’t tell” sounds like something from a TV drama rather than real life.

Also, RawStory has a miserable track record.

[SergeStorms]

22. Oy.

That's beyond disgusting. That SOB belongs in prison. I wonder if he was using steroids for his "athletic performance". There's a shit-load of rage at such a young age. A lot of it is his wealthy white-bread entitlement, but steroid use would explain the quantum leap he seems to exhibit. If this is true, he deserves to have his life completely ruined to the point of living under and overpass in a refrigerator box and begging for nickels. Sick fucker!

[DrToast]

26. Will wait for a more credible source.

Z

[jalan48]

28. Anonymous?

[at140]

33. From the Horse's mouth...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/trump-fbi-kavanaugh.html

[cstanleytech]

31. "If this is true, holy crap!" Keyword is "if" because we need to be very careful and try

prevent the Repugnants from slipping a ringer in on us that they then "expose" as fake which then they try to use to discredit others like Ford who's testimony is very believable.

[TexasBushwhacker]

36. And slipping in a ringer is definitely intl the GOP's playbook n/t

[Samspadesnark]

37. This letter could be a trap

To make Kamala Harris and other dem senators look bad/naive, and to make Dr. Ford look non-credible. I would tread with great caution on this unless this woman steps forward because it could well be a planted disinformation ploy by repugs.

[alwaysinasnit]

40. Quite possible, but I imagine that Sen. Harris' office forwarded this to FBI to investigate.

[renate]

46. I kind of suspect that too

It's in their playbook.

And this is SUPER dramatic. It's way, way, way beyond anything he could have ever hoped to pass off as "boys will be boys."

On the other hand, it's not terribly different from the things he's been accused of that I do believe. So, I don't know. And it's not my job to know--I hope the FBI investigates.

[dalton99a]

38. Kick

[trueblue2007]

39. how horrible

[pnwmom]

43. That accusation -- an anonymous letter -- can't be taken seriously. It just can't.

If the person is real she needs to either go to the FBI, the police, or to a reporter who will keep her identify confidential.

But an anonymous complaint vetted by no one shouldn't be taken seriously. (And that's not even getting into the details, some of which are hard to believe, e.g., "They forced me to go into the backseat and took turns raping me several times each.” Several times each?)

[torius]

55. Agreed

With no name attached, it sounds like fan fiction. Anyone can write a letter. It could be RWs baiting us: the libs believe anything! So far, Blasey and Ramirez are enough for me. And I believe Swetnick that Judge Brew-die and his sidekick went to those parties, but her statements about what they did at them are too vague to mean much without more backup. The parties sound not that different than the parties Trump would boast about where there were girls, "some of them very young."

[truthisfreedom]

45. Too much, I agree, unless she interviews with the fbi

[BlancheSplanchnik]

47. ....no words. Reading that feels like getting hit in the chest by a truck.

[pnwmom]

61. It's totally anonymous. Steve Bannon could have written it. Or anyone who wants

to mess with us.

No accusation should be taken seriously unless the person comes forward to the authorities or to a trusted reporter.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

70. Hmmm. They sure knew how to write it!

Hope this person contacts FBI, if it’s true.

[spooky3]

49. According to NBC San Diego, the anonymous ltr

Was postmarked Sept 19, sent to Harris, and given immediately to Grassley. Sounds to me as if there were credibility concerns from the start. FBI should check it out.

[Dream Girl]

56. This is bullshit. Anonymous and outrageous like the yacht rape.

GOP ratfuckery

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

58. This is hard to swallow.

(Insert punchline here.)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

65. This is very interesting..you could argue all sides yet each has issues.

1. Could be 100% true and legit. Horrific. Like so horrific - hard to imagine they didn't get accused/caught at the time.

2. Could be bogus...from someone from the left. Someone who believes Dr. Ford ..hoping to bolster the case against him. Yet, if bogus...why make it so horrific.

3. Could be bogus from the right? If yes, they were trying to make it so over the top that no one would believe? Can't see how it could advance the cause. How could anyone prove it wasn't true?

None of these make sense.

[blaze]

67. "The individual's name was censored" This is dishonest reporting.

There was no name censored. It was anonymous.

[mn9driver]

69. I smell a rat.

GOP operatives plant this sort of thing to discredit real accusers. Dems need to be careful wth this.

[Chemisse]

73. Omg - that is horrible!

And of course they were right. No one would have believed her and no one will believe her now. So the entitled boys can rape at will.

[Frustratedlady]

77. I call foul.

The hand over the mouth is the first clue. Republicans aren't too imaginative (they tend to plagiarize) so a flag went up.

It sounds more like a "wannabee" attacker who is fantasizing.

If it is true, I'm sorry for the girl. I just don't buy it. I think it is a plant by the Repubs to discredit all the others. They really aren't very good at their attempts. Grade school crap.

[Grasswire2]

79. Remember Dan Rather. nt

[zentrum]

81. Whoa.

This needs a a lot of investigating. STAT.

[rtracey]

83. What needs to happen

The Democrats must win back the senate. If so, then a hearing can be brought up on Kavanaugh committing perjury to the Senate. If found to have lied,he can be impeached from the court. I would prefer for any Senator who has an ounce of courage, integrity, and sense of human decency vote no....Collins, Merkowski...any other female Senator..THIS COULD BE YOUR DAUGHTER ONE DAY....PROVE TO AMERICA THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...NOT JUST A FUCKING SLOGAN THIS IDIOT PRESIDENT.

[lindysalsagal]

85. If true, she's got to come forward. There are women who would listen to her.

But the likelyhood her name would remain secret is about 0%.