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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:47 AM Oct 2018

Americans to receive cell phone alert from Trump in first national test

Source: CBS News

It's the alert that – if it's real – you won't want to get again. For the first time ever on Wednesday, Americans nationwide will receive an alert on their cell phones from President Trump. The test, scheduled for 2:18 p.m. ET, is the first test of a national presidential alert system that will let any president issue a warning about a crisis. That could include a missile launched by another country at the U.S. or a tsunami.

First on "CBS This Morning," we got an inside look at the new system with Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) officials ahead of the test.

"When those messages appear on mobile devices, people should take those extremely seriously," FEMA's Antwane Johnson told CBS News correspondent Anna Werner. "It has some direct impact on either life or safety."

Johnson directs the agency's public alert warning system that will send out the nationwide test of the presidential alert on Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/presidential-alert-test-fema-national-crises/?linkId=57630182



Counting down to tRump abuse of this system....
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Americans to receive cell phone alert from Trump in first national test (Original Post) Julian Englis Oct 2018 OP
I look forward to the hacks that will come Liberalagogo Oct 2018 #1
TOTAL BULLSHIT that I want BLOCKED from my phone........ Bengus81 Oct 2018 #2
It's not BS. You can't block it. It's not spam. Renew Deal Oct 2018 #11
It COULD be abused and if anyone COULD, it is TRUMP. In principle, you are right, but... hlthe2b Oct 2018 #13
Anything can be abused. Renew Deal Oct 2018 #25
It is NOT a mere "argument".. We haven't had "NICE THINGS" since Trump took office hlthe2b Oct 2018 #31
He'll be gone at some point Renew Deal Oct 2018 #32
important my ass. not from these sacks of shit. any 'real' event will likely be certainot Oct 2018 #23
Do you expect Trump to be the last president? Renew Deal Oct 2018 #26
Exactly - this was thought up AND approved during Obama's second term NorCen_CT Oct 2018 #30
Uhh you don't speak for me buddy and YES I would complain if it was from Hillary... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #40
i recognize it's usefulness, it's the just one more eg of the incredible stupidity certainot Oct 2018 #49
Anything that comes from an executive branch filled with Nazis and Putinists is spam ck4829 Oct 2018 #35
You have too much free time Renew Deal Oct 2018 #36
One may both declare and "fight." LanternWaste Oct 2018 #64
What does marking email as spam accomplish? Renew Deal Oct 2018 #68
A great way to divide up and make a list of anti-Trump vs pro-Trump people nt lostnfound Oct 2018 #22
Here's a good op-ed that gives some context to this Cold War era program... FailureToCommunicate Oct 2018 #3
He'll politicize it, guaranteed. flibbitygiblets Oct 2018 #4
Not half. Two thirds. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #7
Worthless. Declaring a national emergency will do just this...cause panic, and ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #5
How do I block it? Rebl2 Oct 2018 #6
I plan to turn off my phone, but I expect it'll be there when I turn it on again. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #8
You can't Renew Deal Oct 2018 #10
Sure you can PJMcK Oct 2018 #38
They could be the first entity for some people Renew Deal Oct 2018 #42
"Sure you can" -deleting a text without reading it isn't "blocking it", it just not reading it. n/t EX500rider Oct 2018 #69
Yeah, I know PJMcK Oct 2018 #72
That headline is clickbait BS Renew Deal Oct 2018 #9
Yes.. but if you don't think his poltical appointee cronies won't listen if he wants to use it hlthe2b Oct 2018 #16
It's annoying how they are framing this... xor Oct 2018 #17
Many people don't own or use a TV Renew Deal Oct 2018 #24
ROFLOL....Glad your so on-board with this BS along with Republicans.......... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #41
This is an Obama era program Renew Deal Oct 2018 #43
You seem pretty upset about tis onenote Oct 2018 #47
You are misinformed. This has nothing to do with Republicans. Oneironaut Oct 2018 #52
Yeah, you're right... This would give immediate warnings to people right away xor Oct 2018 #54
Not everyone LoveMyCali Oct 2018 #57
This is true, but it's the best they can do Renew Deal Oct 2018 #58
Raises hand, NO cell phone! woody44 Oct 2018 #59
PAYG and Burner phones too? bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #12
California pulled this crap about 5 years ago BeatStanford Oct 2018 #14
How opt out? zentrum Oct 2018 #15
Before long it will be "sponsored" by tRUMP to GET OUT THE RACIST VOTE! SayItLoud Oct 2018 #18
Don't like it? Let them know... BlueIdaho Oct 2018 #19
So this asshole wants to say to me that Your Fired, or fried ...............were going to war turbinetree Oct 2018 #20
already got my alarm to go off 5 minutes before, to remind me to turn off my phone. nt Javaman Oct 2018 #21
Next we get Turbineguy Oct 2018 #27
One more step in becoming a dictator. democratisphere Oct 2018 #28
I intend to scream traitor, dirtbag, disgusting lying piece of shit into the phone while he katmondoo Oct 2018 #29
HE'S NOT GIVING THE ALERT!!! brooklynite Oct 2018 #39
I have a cordless phone but not a cell phone katmondoo Oct 2018 #33
Ha Ha! I don't get texts! Coventina Oct 2018 #34
Expect to get a red-tainted reminder to vote on Election Day. JudyM Oct 2018 #37
It leaked ... GeorgeGist Oct 2018 #44
Oh, man, will PJ be there? What about ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #46
Gotta have Hung Harry and Gang Bang Gary in too! idcdu Oct 2018 #61
Note to self: don't be on the road at 2:18pm tomorrow. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #45
I remember the disruptive "bend over and kiss your ass goodbye" drills in school. hunter Oct 2018 #48
Why do headlines keep saying "This is from Trump?" Oneironaut Oct 2018 #50
I'm turning my phone off at 2:00 and leaving it off till 3 ebbie15644 Oct 2018 #51
I turned off all governmental notifications and will continue to do so. efhmc Oct 2018 #53
Don't you want to help find missing children? Renew Deal Oct 2018 #56
Most of the time, missing children are taken by parents or other relatives ck4829 Oct 2018 #65
Excellent. ck4829 Oct 2018 #66
DEAR GOD NO!!! QC Oct 2018 #55
I don't know if it is country wide, Cold War Spook Oct 2018 #60
Trump is a national emergency. Yavin4 Oct 2018 #62
What's he going to say? He paid his taxes? EricMaundry Oct 2018 #63
"This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System....No Collusion, No Collusion...." FSogol Oct 2018 #67
I didn't get the alert. Co-workers did. n/t Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #70
I didn't need an alert djg21 Oct 2018 #71

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
2. TOTAL BULLSHIT that I want BLOCKED from my phone........
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:53 AM
Oct 2018

This is SPAM and nothing more..........

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
11. It's not BS. You can't block it. It's not spam.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:16 AM
Oct 2018

It’s an important test of the system.

hlthe2b

(113,965 posts)
13. It COULD be abused and if anyone COULD, it is TRUMP. In principle, you are right, but...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:30 AM
Oct 2018

Frankly, anyone who does not feel like the poster to whom you replied and at least momentarily wish they could block these from their phone, has not been paying attention the past two years, IMHO

AND. IF HE DOES ABUSE IT for his own self-aggrandizement or political purposes.... I will gladly donate to those groups who work to find a work-around to avoid receiving.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
25. Anything can be abused.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:30 AM
Oct 2018

This is still pretty tightly controlled. I don't buy the "we can't have nice things" argument.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. important my ass. not from these sacks of shit. any 'real' event will likely be
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:27 AM
Oct 2018

made up by them to effect the elections and the loudest coordinated free and easy messaging will be coming from 1500 radio stations staffed by a republican propaganda army

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
26. Do you expect Trump to be the last president?
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:32 AM
Oct 2018

There will be life after Trump. This system needs to be tested. That was determined during the Obama years. You wouldn't complain if Hillary was president.

The real problem is the name of the system, not the system. They called it "presidential alerts" and the paranoids think Trump is going to personally text them. That's not what it's about.

NorCen_CT

(176 posts)
30. Exactly - this was thought up AND approved during Obama's second term
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:46 AM
Oct 2018

"Former President Barack Obama signed a law in 2016 requiring FEMA to create a system that lets US presidents send cellphone alerts regarding public safety issues like natural disasters and "terrorism."
SOURCE: https://www.businessinsider.com/r-trump-administration-to-send-us-cellphones-a-test-alert-on-thursday-2018-9

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
40. Uhh you don't speak for me buddy and YES I would complain if it was from Hillary...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:54 AM
Oct 2018

I don't need this Supreme leader kind of BS coming across my phone telling me to go buy duct tape and plastic for a possible Terra attack.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
49. i recognize it's usefulness, it's the just one more eg of the incredible stupidity
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:14 PM
Oct 2018

and dysfunction of this democracy having this asshole in the white house

i will bet he will relish it, and will be the first to misuse it, like the bush/rove admin and their fake 'orange' alerts.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
35. Anything that comes from an executive branch filled with Nazis and Putinists is spam
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:56 AM
Oct 2018

I have an extra email account that signs up to White House propaganda just to declare it spam, because it is.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
36. You have too much free time
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:58 AM
Oct 2018

There are better ways to fight what's going on that declaring their email spam. It has no effect.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
64. One may both declare and "fight."
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:13 AM
Oct 2018

The one does not preclude the other, hence the premise of "too much free time" is both flawed and careless.

On the other hand, if its child-like petulance is merely the goal, well done.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
3. Here's a good op-ed that gives some context to this Cold War era program...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:57 AM
Oct 2018

Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:08 AM - Edit history (1)

From the article:

"In that context, the wireless alert that Americans will receive represents not an issue of new technology and executive overreach, but rather the uncomfortable, decades-old problem of living with — and planning for — the possibility of sudden armageddon.

Similarly, public resistance to the test can be traced to a breakdown in the original logic of the system. The original broadcasting system was built on a bedrock of presidential credibility, which in the 1960s seemed both unassailable and vital to the larger project of federal civil defense. Today, after decades of political polarization and countless recent public scandals, presidential credibility is at best a partisan resource, and at worst a mirage.

Lawmakers should view the test, and the backlash against it, as a measure of our preparedness for nuclear disaster. When something as basic as a national alert system is ignored — or resisted — by a large portion of the public, steps must be taken to restore its credibility.

Modernizing civil defense systems is a worthy goal, and one our government must pursue until it is ready to do the much harder, but extremely necessary work of ridding the world of nuclear weapons."

Entire op-ed here:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/09/29/all-americans-should-welcome-alerts-from-president-trump/fpKXQKnJZ7iz8LqYn6KGEI/story.html

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
5. Worthless. Declaring a national emergency will do just this...cause panic, and ...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:01 AM
Oct 2018

all sorts of idiotic reactions on the part of some people that would create even more chaos. Since when has the federal government been ahead of the curve in doing anything? Never.

Also, I agree w/ others that this is going to lead to abuse.

Besides, if something is a national emergency, by the time they (feds) realize it, it's going to be way too late.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. I plan to turn off my phone, but I expect it'll be there when I turn it on again.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:12 AM
Oct 2018

And, as with the "Sign in to iTunes" and "Sign in to the Cloud" messages that are always there, I'll delete it as quickly as possible.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
38. Sure you can
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:27 AM
Oct 2018

Turn off your phone.

Delete it when you power up.

Fuck Trump.

And I disagree with you that this is an "important system." The government is always the last entity to inform the public. And too often, when they do, they lie to us.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
42. They could be the first entity for some people
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018

Everyone doesn't own or use TV, Radio, etc. It's about getting maximum exposure during an emergency.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
69. "Sure you can" -deleting a text without reading it isn't "blocking it", it just not reading it. n/t
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 05:02 PM
Oct 2018

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
9. That headline is clickbait BS
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:15 AM
Oct 2018

It’s not “from Trump.” He’s not sending it from his iPhone. This was planned years ago and really has nothing to do with the president other than the name.

hlthe2b

(113,965 posts)
16. Yes.. but if you don't think his poltical appointee cronies won't listen if he wants to use it
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:35 AM
Oct 2018

for purposes for which it was not designed, there are some real estate brokers in North and South Carolina that surely want to talk with you.

He may not do it immediately. In fact he WILL get pushback, but eventually, if he is there long enough, I don't doubt he will try.

xor

(1,204 posts)
17. It's annoying how they are framing this...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:42 AM
Oct 2018

While I doubt this is something Trump will be allowed to abuse, I bet he totally tries to. "Come on guys... just let me send out this one message."

All that aside, I still don't really understand the gap this is filling. Don't we already have an emergency broadcast system? If things are so bad that we don't have radio or TV, then would we still have the cellular networks running? Maybe i'm not fully understanding the use case for this.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
24. Many people don't own or use a TV
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:28 AM
Oct 2018

Most people don't use the radio. This is loud enough to wake people up at night. Cell networks only need electricity. Text messaging works when cell networks are congested with phone calls like 9/11 or the blackout a couple years later. There are plenty of gaps that this fills.

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
41. ROFLOL....Glad your so on-board with this BS along with Republicans..........
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:58 AM
Oct 2018

Bet Bush wishes he had this BS when he was upping the Terra alert color chart WHEN it suited Republicans and elections and telling people to go out and buy stuff after him and Wall St. trashed the economy.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
47. You seem pretty upset about tis
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:51 PM
Oct 2018

Do you plan to vote against any member of Congress that voted to create this system and to mandat that it be tested before the end of the year? Or is this just faux outrage?

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
52. You are misinformed. This has nothing to do with Republicans.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:48 PM
Oct 2018

This is an emergency alert system, much like the one on TV. Remember the last time Trump abused the TV EAS to send a tweet out? It never happened, and it won’t.

Furthermore, this system was authorized by that raging Conservative Fascist, Obama! /s

Bush did have the ability to send emergency alerts out. He didn’t. You should read the CNN article in the OP (beyond the clickbait garbage title).

xor

(1,204 posts)
54. Yeah, you're right... This would give immediate warnings to people right away
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 06:20 PM
Oct 2018

since the vast majority of people have their cells attached or near by most of the time. No need to find a radio and then tune into something broadcasting.

LoveMyCali

(2,047 posts)
57. Not everyone
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:44 PM
Oct 2018

has a cell phone either. So how is this such a great means of communication during an emergency?

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
12. PAYG and Burner phones too?
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:18 AM
Oct 2018

I'll just delete it, I'm not even curious. I only turn it on once a week anyway.

 

BeatStanford

(20 posts)
14. California pulled this crap about 5 years ago
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:30 AM
Oct 2018

Mexican custody dispute gone wrong and EVERYBODY got an ear piercing text at 3am. The next day, the Highway Patrol and legislature were touching themselves. We can opt out now.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
15. How opt out?
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:35 AM
Oct 2018

They are preparing us for maximum panic---which makes us docile.
Or preparing us for worse.....
Some trumped up crisis, attack.

Please see Moore's Farenheit 11/9---he talks extensively about the Reichstag Fire, which it sure feels this "alert" is getting ready for. At least to me.

SayItLoud

(1,774 posts)
18. Before long it will be "sponsored" by tRUMP to GET OUT THE RACIST VOTE!
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

If' he's mentioned or tied to it it's an *impression* that will be beneficial to him and his KKKons.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
19. Don't like it? Let them know...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:50 AM
Oct 2018

mailto:FEMA-National-Test@fema.dhs.gov

Actually this email address is for questions, but I fail to see why you can’t let them know how you feel. I did.

turbinetree

(27,546 posts)
20. So this asshole wants to say to me that Your Fired, or fried ...............were going to war
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:58 AM
Oct 2018

Fuck Him and his horse.....................so the wireless telephone industry just handed over all the numbers, just fucking great...............so that his fucking EGO, can get bigger..................and say look what I have done...................Eat ME..............I hate TRAITORS.......................orange hair ones and his enabling cronies....................

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. One more step in becoming a dictator.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:39 AM
Oct 2018

I will block, uninstall or surgically remove any app or component necessary to eliminate these messages from "fear leader".

katmondoo

(6,524 posts)
29. I intend to scream traitor, dirtbag, disgusting lying piece of shit into the phone while he
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:46 AM
Oct 2018

gives the alert. Won't mean anything but I will feel good

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
39. HE'S NOT GIVING THE ALERT!!!
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:50 AM
Oct 2018

He's not ORDERING THE ALERT!!!

People are really going over the top about this.

This is a mandated test, based on a law signed by PRESIDENT OBAMA. It has nothing to do with the President being allowed to send messages on his own initiative.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,681 posts)
45. Note to self: don't be on the road at 2:18pm tomorrow.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:36 PM
Oct 2018

EVERYBODY will take their eyes off the road and play with the phone, ALL AT ONCE. What could go wrong?

hunter

(40,690 posts)
48. I remember the disruptive "bend over and kiss your ass goodbye" drills in school.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

This will be the equivalent for 2018 students.

Expect much merriment.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
50. Why do headlines keep saying "This is from Trump?"
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:40 PM
Oct 2018

It’s a FEMA EAS. He’s not going to be sending crap like “NO COLLUSION!” with it. It’s probably never even going to be used.

Using it as his personal Twitter feed would probably be against the law. This system is for national disasters and crises.

ck4829

(37,761 posts)
65. Most of the time, missing children are taken by parents or other relatives
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:45 AM
Oct 2018

But yet we have a government that wants to blame the 'others' for things as well as a government that is supported by QAnon/Pizzagate conspiracy theories that wants to blame massive conspiracies in trafficking non-existent children.

A real disservice to missing children, our government endangers them.

So by questioning the legitimacy of our white supremacist, conspiracy theorist, Neo-Nazi, Putinist government, one actually is helping to find missing children.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
60. I don't know if it is country wide,
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:13 AM
Oct 2018

Jacksonville NC area, you will receive a text for Amber alert or Silver alert.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
71. I didn't need an alert
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:21 PM
Oct 2018

To let me know that the County is in crisis. I’ve know that since Twittler supposedly won the election.

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