World Court orders U.S. to ensure Iran sanctions don't hit humanitarian aid

[DonViejo]

Source: Reuters




OCTOBER 3, 2018 / 3:47 AM / UPDATED 14 MINUTES AGO

Stephanie van den Berg
4 MIN READ

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The World Court ordered the United States on Wednesday to ensure that sanctions against Iran, due to be tightened next month, do not affect humanitarian aid or civil aviation safety.

Judges at the International Court Of Justice handed a victory to Tehran, which had argued that sanctions imposed since May by the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump violate the terms of a 1955 Treaty of Amity between the two countries.

The ruling is likely to have at most limited practical impact on the implementation of sanctions, which Washington is reimposing and tightening after pulling out of the 2015 nuclear deal that Iran signed with world powers.

The court order issued on Wednesday is temporary pending a resolution of Iran’s full lawsuit against Washington by the ICJ, something that could take years.

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1. cheetoz says..."Hurrump! Who are they to tell the king what to do?"

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The World Court ordered the United States on Wednesday to ensure that sanctions against Iran, due to be tightened next month, do not affect humanitarian aid or civil aviation safety.

[leftynyc]

2. I doubt donnie

or frankly the majority of Americans give a crap what the UN has to say.

[ck4829]

4. I care what the UN has to say

I think it's safe to say not all Americans are Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, or Evangelicals who want war with Iraq, Iran, or wherever this decade to kickstart the "end times"... I know they are the factions who don't care about the UN.

[leftynyc]

5. Not sure

what neo nazis and white supremacists have to do with the majority of Americans thinking the UN is useless but whatever.

[JonLP24]

8. +1

[LiberalLovinLug]

9. They should. Its a shame they don't

Its not perfect. But its all the world has as far as a body of representatives from near every country coming together.

All other international bodies purposes are strictly made up for the financial well being of the 1% in the countries participating, WTO, G7, IMF etc.. The UN has many programs, student exchanges, scientist exchanges, conferences on things that affect the planet. At least there is an actual place designated for talking as opposed to misunderstandings and war.

Maybe because I'm Canadian, and see more the need for smaller countries to have a voice in world affairs. As per their charter:

http://www.international.gc.ca/genev/mission/Canada-UN_NU.aspx?lang=eng

The actions of the UN are guided by its Charter, which defines the United Nations' purposes as follows:

to maintain international peace and security;
to develop friendly relations among nations; and
to achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights.

The actions of the United Nations are based on certain principles:

all of its members are equal;
all members must fulfil their Charter obligations;
international disputes are to be settled by peaceful means;
members may not use force or the threat of force against other members;
members must help the United Nations in any action it might take in accordance with the Charter;
the United Nations may not interfere in the domestic affairs of any state


I will never see how anyone could have a problem with those goals. At least attempting to achieve those even if we fall short. Yes the setup of the veto power of a handful of countries, and the ability of countries to gang up against another are evident. And at any given time, a lot of countries are ruled by despots who encourage corruption and collusion with other corrupted leaders.

There will always be corrupt leaders of varying degrees there. But this attitude that the UN is useless, or worse, a detriment and an antagonist of the US, who were one of the proud first countries to sign on along with Canada in San Francisco in 1945, is awful IMO.

And whats worse is that I see that attitude on DU. From Democrats. So many share the same opinion of the UN as Trump and his motley basket of deplorables. This bubble view of their country like its worth more than other countries combined, not just financially, but with morals, and culture, and language, and religion, and military goals. That (their) God made it "exceptional" so they get to play by different rules. That things like the UN declaring the last Iraq war was "illegal" because it did not meet the requirements of respecting national sovereignty, and invading without proof of WMDs, or other proof of a threat, was scoffed at. Turns out it might have been better had they listened.

Another thing that that all UN haters have along with the Christian right Trumpists is the prosecuted victim mindset. That it doesn't matter if they are still part of the most dominent religious group in the country, that politicians in much of the country could not even get elected as a non-Christian, in the same way it doesn't matter that the US still has the biggest army, is the wealthiest, and doesn't listen to the UN anyways (Iraq), they are still victims of some plot by some 'deep state' UN.

Isn't it better to at least have a venue like the UN rather than nothing? You want countries to become more isolated? More protectionist? more xenophobic? More suspicious and distrusting because they never speak to one another? I don't get it.

[leftynyc]

10. I made no judgement

on the UN at all and don't intend to. Like all organizations that size, it has its good and its bad. But Americans as a whole don't put a lot of stock in it and certainly don't want them dictating our foreign policy.

[LiberalLovinLug]

11. "certainly don't want them dictating our foreign policy"

That's the problem right there.
This stubborn unwillingness to accept the opinion of anyone born outside of the US. That the USA is more important than the planet as a whole. Completely ignoring the fact that if the planet goes, the US will go too.

It is bolstered by the idea of "American exceptionalism". Which is a made up nationalist creed that means nothing. All nations think they are the exceptional one. But it has a big hold in middle America. It closely resembles the Republican mantra that they never make mistakes....and if they get caught, well, someone else is even worse so why look at me?

So when the US has a less than perfect government, and invades a nation based on made up information for its elites to make a killing, pun intended, and the United Nations of countries come to a conclusion that its illegal because they was never a threat, they don't want to listen.

But the US has been perfectly willing to go along with voting in the UN to sanction other 'less than perfect' governments. To even vote for military action along with other nations to right a wrong.

But gawd help you if you dare say the US may have done something wrong. No ones telling y'all that right?

Ok in '45 to help craft the Marshal plan and "dictate the foreign policy" of Germany and Japan for their sins. But no way in hell would you let any international body criticize anything you did. Because...you don't do anything bad, ever. You're exceptionally good country that God blesses. Your His favorite. And you have the biggest army (at the expense of a whole lot of social spending that other nations enjoy) So you don't have to play by any rules.

That attitude perpetrates a lot of misery and at the same time stalls a lot of progress this planet could achieve.

Rant out.

[leftynyc]

12. Like I said, I was making

no judgement so I'm not really sure who you aiming that rant at. I stated mere fact. The majority of Americans don't like the UN.

[LiberalLovinLug]

13. Sorry. I wasn't directing it at you personally

It was venting a frustration that a lot good people around the world have about that attitude. That you admit is shared by the majority of Americans. So that would include a lot of Democrats. Which I don't get. Cheers

[bdamomma]

3. You don't mess around with

the World Court (ICC) they will get his ass for violations.

[riversedge]

6. Trump just ignores anything that is 'world' He is further isolating the US from the

rest of the world. But I do hope the 'world' keeps this another things on the front burner.

[christx30]

7. The US government, for the most part,

do not recognize the authority or legitimacy of any court other than the ones here on US soil.
They aren’t accountable to elected politicians or voters in the US. Why should we listen to them?
And, honestly, what teeth does the ICC really have? Are they going to arrest Trump on contempt charges? Is he going to get fined?
The most they can do is a strongly worded letter