Pompeo Terminates 1955 Treaty With Iran In Light Of UN Court Ruling

[DonViejo]

Source: Associated Press


By Associated Press

October 3, 2018 11:30 am

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has announced that the U.S. is canceling a 1955 treaty with Iran establishing economic relations and consular rights between the two nations.

The move follows a ruling by the United Nations’ highest court ordering the United States to lift sanctions on Iran that affect imports of humanitarian goods. Iran alleges that the sanctions imposed by the Trump administration after its withdrawal from a 2015 nuclear deal with Iran violated the so-called Treaty of Amity.

Pompeo told reporters Wednesday that the termination of the treaty was decades overdue. He said that Iran was abusing the International Court of Justice for political and propaganda purposes.

He said Iran’s claims under the treaty were “absurd.”

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World Court orders U.S. to ensure Iran sanctions don't hit humanitarian aid

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142171034

[Iliyah]

1. This administration is going to get a lot of people killed all for the

OIL.

[OhNo-Really]

10. Actually, for the oil stock profits, as prices will skyrocket

In a flash.

Setting the stage for disaster to be handed to the next Democratic president in 2020

Fred and Don used to manipulate the stock market by "making statement" that would affect stock prices. It is in the NYTimes article yesterday.

Blood boiling. Kids will be food deprived as the low income families are just barely getting by.

[turbinetree]

2. Does this dumb asshole know that the CIA installed a fucking dictator in that time period...........

[ResistantAmerican17]

3. These ignorant scumbags don't believe in history

The CIA’s overthrow of Mosaddegh in 1953 was “fake news.”

[Fred Sanders]

4. Pompous is as dumb as his master...throwing a childish temper tantrum...they really are a party

of stupid angery old white men, aren't they.

And of course this "withdrawing" of humanitarian protection for not Christian children...eerily Trump fascist theme ...can only be done by Congress.

Aaand there is another attack on another judicial body not obeying commands.

[BadGimp]

7. Doesn't Care, Doesn't Know

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Our Treaties are now worthless if they can be cancelled at will

Countries will know this. NAFTA2 could be gone in a heartbeat.

Did Mexico pay for the wall?

[Fred Sanders]

6. Soon we will all discover the Treaty of Amity can not be cancelled in a hissyfit of one man.

But....not my job!...Media! You on this?

[efhmc]

8. That is an interesting thought.

Doesn't Congress have to approve treaties? If so,doesn't that mean they must also cancelled them? (I live in Texas and haven't seen a wall yet.)

[Igel]

13. Treaties often foresee being discontinued.

So this one ...

Article 23, section 2 & 3: https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/275251.pdf

The present Treaty shall enter into force one month after the day of exchange of ratifications. It shall remain in force for ten years and shall continue in force thereafter until terminated as provided herein.

Either High Contracting Party may, by giving one year's written notice to the other High Contracting Party, terminate the present Treaty at the end of the initial ten-year period or at any time thereafter.

The president has the power to make treaties, which are to be ratified by Congress: "the President shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." President makes treaties, presumably he breaks treaties; does he need the consent of the Senators to concur? Probably not, because binding the country to a treaty as one of the sources of the "supreme law of the land" is one thing, but dissolving that bond is another. Instead of obligating us, it makes us no longer obliged.


Notice this treaty stipulates a sincere friendship between the two countries, embassies, and respect for the embassies. It's not like either side's bothered with any of the provisions since at least the '70s.

[efhmc]

15. I appreciate your taking the time to explain that. I had no idea about that 10 year

bailout clause. Thanks.

[BadGimp]

9. Don't Treaties have to be ratified by Congress? - apparently not...

Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

And if so does it make sense that the cancelation or abrogation of a treaty must also be ratified by Congress?

I Wiki'd it:

Presently, there is no official Supreme Court ruling on whether the President has the power to break a treaty without the approval of Congress, and the courts also declined to interfere when President George W. Bush unilaterally withdrew the United States from the ABM Treaty in 2002, six months after giving the ...
Treaty Clause - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause

SAD!!

[Fred Sanders]

11. Here is an explanation of the treaty of friendship...

According to Nationalinterest website, the treaty consists of an introduction and twenty-three articles. It emphasizes friendly relations while encouraging mutual trade and investments and regulating consular relations. The treaty was signed by Mostafa Samiy (the Iranian deputy of the ministry of foreign affairs) and Selden Chapin (the ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of the United States) at Tehran just a week before the second anniversary of the 1953 Coup. The treaty came into force in June 1957, one month after the day of exchange of the instruments of ratification at Tehran. Ever since, it’s provided the legal framework for bilateral relations between Iran and the United States.

And the Iranian complaint to ICJ:


“After receiving the viewpoints of Iranian and foreign international attorneys and legal advisors, the final lawsuit containing the Islamic Republic of Iran’s complaint over the [US’] violation of the Treaty of Amity was registered on July 16, 2018,” the spokesman noted.

“In this complaint, it is explained with evidence that the United States’ decision on May 8, 2018 to re-impose nuclear sanctions runs counter to the United States’ international obligations, especially articles 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, and the Treaty of Amity in 19655,” Ghasemi added.

“The United States is obliged to stop these international breaches and compensate for all the damage inflicted,” he said.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif posted a message on his Twitter account on Monday saying that Iran has lodged a complaint with the International Court of Justice against US unilateral measures in violating the multilateral treaty signed by Iran, EU, and 5+1 in 2015."

[OhNo-Really]

12. At link: Read "All the Shah's Men" updated in 2008. Robert Gates says "War Bad, Bad!

Was surprised to find so much of this book free to read.

At the link, look in upper left corner, left option, to enlarge print. As a side note, the US also funded Iran's first uranium processing nuclear facility after we destroyed the only democratically elected leader in the Middle East.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Wv4B6C-wTG8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

[MrScorpio]

14. We're ruled by the pettiest motherfuckers alive.