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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:34 PM Oct 2018

Alaska GOP to weigh potential action against Murkowski

Source: Associated Press



By BECKY BOHRER

JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Alaska Republican party leaders plan to consider whether to reprimand U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski for opposing Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

The party has asked Murkowski to provide any information she might want its state central committee to consider.

Party Chairman Tuckerman Babcock says the committee could decide to issue a statement. Or he says it could withdraw support of Murkowski, encourage party officials to look for a replacement and ask that she not seek re-election as a Republican.

He says the party took that more extreme step previously with state legislators who caucused with Democrats.

Read more: https://apnews.com/93cee785826a467a9f5bad4bcb75980a

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Alaska GOP to weigh potential action against Murkowski (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
What a sucky Party. Her vote didn't even matter. I thought he was against the confirmation, too. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #1
Fascism is soooo last century. The Party of Palin. And they have no shame. OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #65
Murkowski wasn't their candidate anyway. Indigenous Alaskans voted her in. She needs their support. TheBlackAdder Oct 2018 #68
'Tuckerman Babcock'...is that a real name? pecosbob Oct 2018 #2
LOL RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #25
....later in life Tuckerman FoxNewsSucks Oct 2018 #36
Here's a real photo of the lovely little Tuckerman, followed by 3 more: Judi Lynn Oct 2018 #43
Jeez, they look FoxNewsSucks Oct 2018 #61
She won as a write-in. She should tell them to go f**k a seal. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2018 #3
Exactly. Perhaps it is time for her to consider switching parties still_one Oct 2018 #11
Poor seal ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2018 #29
Can you imagine someone named "Tuckerman Babcock" trying to catch a seal? n/t rzemanfl Oct 2018 #32
Or a homegirl Oct 2018 #69
This sentence is straight out of East Germany circa 1975 Va Lefty Oct 2018 #4
you do realize some here are calling for the same thing to machin, a few weeks before the midterms. still_one Oct 2018 #13
You make an excellent point Va Lefty Oct 2018 #14
while most of us here are not thrilled by Manchin, I think we need to think with our minds and not still_one Oct 2018 #17
Joe Manchin voted to put a serial rapist on the Supreme Court. ZZenith Oct 2018 #34
We know exactly what some are doing here this close to the midterms. A lot of us are still_one Oct 2018 #41
I think he would have .... reACTIONary Oct 2018 #53
They might have if their representative stood before them and forcefully laid out the myriad reasons ZZenith Oct 2018 #55
Maybe.... reACTIONary Oct 2018 #66
There a difference between the official party doing that and a few people on a Autumn Oct 2018 #37
Good Point. n/t MarcA Oct 2018 #44
Those few posters are demanding the same thing that the repuke party in Alaska is still_one Oct 2018 #46
Like I said, the people complaining about Manchin here are not party leaders. Autumn Oct 2018 #49
I understand the complaining and disgust Autumn, I am one of them. However, there are idiots who still_one Oct 2018 #54
sources for "some for forcing M to become a Repub? scipan Oct 2018 #71
more than that---- pangaia Oct 2018 #19
She has a conscience. LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #5
So, why shouldn't Dems give her some cover (reward) watoos Oct 2018 #6
oh for peteys sake. what next!! riversedge Oct 2018 #7
Jeeze, river, don't even ask !!! pangaia Oct 2018 #20
So the Tea Billies from Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #8
Here's an idea....She caucuses with Dems....and creates a 50/50 split in the Senate irresistable Oct 2018 #9
That's the ticket, push her out of the GOP and into being an Independent DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #10
This comes as not surprise. pazzyanne Oct 2018 #12
I really am SO TIRED of REPUBLICANS.... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #15
This is what is happening, everywhere. pangaia Oct 2018 #16
Are you attempting to install fear or spur action. ZZenith Oct 2018 #35
I am never attempting to install fear. pangaia Oct 2018 #40
I really appreciate your response. ZZenith Oct 2018 #47
No problem. Glad you asked... pangaia Oct 2018 #50
Art is what makes life worth living ZZenith Oct 2018 #51
As a famous composer friend of mine once said, "Play loud and play often, " pangaia Oct 2018 #52
Is this another tail wagging the dog thingy???? Cryptoad Oct 2018 #18
More open retribution from the GOP thug party. ffr Oct 2018 #21
Theres nothing they can do about a vote. Other than primary her. Get over it nt 7962 Oct 2018 #22
Maybe she should switch parties. n/t pnwmom Oct 2018 #23
LOL. They need her a lot more than she needs them. See the last election. PSPS Oct 2018 #24
Fuckers are going to investigate her for exercising her independent judgment The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #26
I don't think she cares. She ran and won as a write-in candidate still_one Oct 2018 #58
Probably not, but what a completely fascist stunt to pull anyhow. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #59
sure it is, but if they are stupid enough to push this before the midterms, after the midterms she still_one Oct 2018 #60
Could she switch if the Senate is 5050? pstokely Oct 2018 #27
Wow, their authoritarianism is showing. madaboutharry Oct 2018 #28
Why Does Anyone Think the Party that Brought Us Sarah Palin Ccarmona Oct 2018 #30
It's all for show. Owl Oct 2018 #31
This is the way they want to run the country. Iliyah Oct 2018 #33
Petulant republicans... Snackshack Oct 2018 #38
Seems they failed once already with that kind of shit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #39
When that happened she should have become an independent and caucused with the totodeinhere Oct 2018 #45
If they are smart they will leave her alone. Depending on the election outcome totodeinhere Oct 2018 #42
They continuously blab about independence and freedumb. MarcA Oct 2018 #48
she could run as an Independent and win easily INdemo Oct 2018 #56
She did in 2010, which makes it especially funny that the AK GOP seems to think it has power. Gore1FL Oct 2018 #62
Anti-women grand old pervert party. truthisfreedom Oct 2018 #57
GOP: Party before country, always. sinkingfeeling Oct 2018 #63
Keep it up - she'll go I-AK or L-AK, and might caucus with us. Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2018 #64
She should leave the GOP Bradical79 Oct 2018 #67
We should invite her over. What does she want? Buckeyeblue Oct 2018 #70

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
1. What a sucky Party. Her vote didn't even matter. I thought he was against the confirmation, too. nt
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:35 PM
Oct 2018

OhNo-Really

(3,996 posts)
65. Fascism is soooo last century. The Party of Palin. And they have no shame.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:38 AM
Oct 2018

Hate is their mantra. Not happy with Lisa. She must have done something humane.

Go Lisa!

Also, maybe Sarah should have worn her mom jeans more often. Kids a bit messed up.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
68. Murkowski wasn't their candidate anyway. Indigenous Alaskans voted her in. She needs their support.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 09:50 AM
Oct 2018

.

Fuck the GOP, is probably more along her lines now.

She was forsaken by the AK GOP and managed to pull off a win because indigenous Alaskans supported her.

She needed to show support for them, else they would have abandoned her--even thought the Kavanaugh outcome was probably planned to go off as it did anyway. Kav gets in, yet she is able to save face with the Alaskans who voted for her.

Perhaps she'll run as an Indy next time. But, who will she caucus with?

.

pecosbob

(8,380 posts)
2. 'Tuckerman Babcock'...is that a real name?
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:36 PM
Oct 2018

they must have taunted him mercilessly as a child...no wonder he turned out to be a Repuke.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,681 posts)
36. ....later in life Tuckerman
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:26 PM
Oct 2018

adopted the pseudonym "Tuck Buckford" and found a niche bilking the rightwing moron audience of his radio show Brain Fight

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
43. Here's a real photo of the lovely little Tuckerman, followed by 3 more:
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:54 PM
Oct 2018








A whole state controlled by these dirtbags. What a rotten shame. They are one hideous bunch of stupid, greedy, unprincipled idiots.


Didn't know Colbert does Tuck Buckford skits. Thanks for the link, maybe!

FoxNewsSucks

(11,681 posts)
61. Jeez, they look
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:27 PM
Oct 2018

like they're children of Roy Moore. Creepy pieces of human waste.

Look up the Tuck Buckford skits, he's ridiculing Alex Jones, and they are hilarious.

Until you realize that the rightwingers actually think that way

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
4. This sentence is straight out of East Germany circa 1975
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:39 PM
Oct 2018

"The party has asked Murkowski to provide any information she might want its state central committee to consider."

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
13. you do realize some here are calling for the same thing to machin, a few weeks before the midterms.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:55 PM
Oct 2018
 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
17. while most of us here are not thrilled by Manchin, I think we need to think with our minds and not
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:17 PM
Oct 2018

are emotions, and not do things that may feel good emotionally at the moment, but hurt us if we are trying to get the majority in the Senate

Timing is also critical. Just before the midterms is not good timing. The time to go after Manchin is during the primaries, where you run someone against him, though West Virginia is not an easy place for progressives



ZZenith

(4,468 posts)
34. Joe Manchin voted to put a serial rapist on the Supreme Court.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:21 PM
Oct 2018

You want to dismiss some of us as “not thrilled” by him?

I hope you realize it’s that kind of political expediency that got us into this mess. He could have stood before the people of West Virginia and told them why he couldn’t ever vote for a serial rapist but he didn’t do that, did he? It’s well past time for elected officials to quit pretending it’s “business-as-usual” and start drawing the line in the fucking sand.

That thought came from my mind, but you better believe there’s emotion behind it.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
41. We know exactly what some are doing here this close to the midterms. A lot of us are
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:42 PM
Oct 2018

pretty wise what what is going on here

Be interesting to see if some of these new faces are still around after the midterms

Oh, by the way, how is the weather in West Virginia?

reACTIONary

(7,151 posts)
53. I think he would have ....
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:34 PM
Oct 2018

.... voted against him if it would have mattered. But given the repub solidarity it would not have made a difference.

Unfortunately, his constituents would not agree that he voted for a serial rapist.

ZZenith

(4,468 posts)
55. They might have if their representative stood before them and forcefully laid out the myriad reasons
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:40 PM
Oct 2018

the miserable asshole should not be a federal judge of ANY sort.

Comes a time when the principle of the thing supersedes any practicalities. The people will listen to fire-breathing condemnation when it’s justified, and it was most certainly justified in this case.

reACTIONary

(7,151 posts)
66. Maybe....
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:46 AM
Oct 2018

..... we will see what happens with Heidi Heitkamp.

And, by the way, never let your principles stand in the way of doing the right thing.

Autumn

(48,949 posts)
37. There a difference between the official party doing that and a few people on a
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:26 PM
Oct 2018

message board complaining about his vote.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
46. Those few posters are demanding the same thing that the repuke party in Alaska is
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:57 PM
Oct 2018

suggesting.

As you said, this is a message board. This thread is represents people on this message board complaining about the republican party tactics wanting to exercise punitive damage against the Alaskan Senator. Some are the same folks on this same message board want the DNC to do the same same punitive tactics to Minchin

That some see a need to do this right before the midterms is curious to say the least. That some even suggesting that the DNC force Minchin to become a republican, (which incidently neither the DNC nor RNC can tell someone what party to belong to or not), is most curious indeed, especially since there appears to be an influx of a lot of new faces as of late

I am sure all of this of course is just a coincidence


All I am pointing out is the lack of consistency in what some posters say in one case verses another case


Autumn

(48,949 posts)
49. Like I said, the people complaining about Manchin here are not party leaders.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:04 PM
Oct 2018

That's a big difference. I have seen a lot of complaining about his vote, and they have every right to complain but I haven't seen any idiots asking the DNC to kick him out of the party. Links?

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
54. I understand the complaining and disgust Autumn, I am one of them. However, there are idiots who
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:35 PM
Oct 2018

were calling for just that. The question of course is are those advocating that just naive about what being the majority party in the Senate means, or is there something else at play here.

There was an OP yesterday in LBN, which was an article from June, where Manchin said he would consider voting for a republican or Democrat in 2020. Outrageous and disgusting, because he put trump into that pool. Of course disgust and outrage was rightfully expressed, but there were some posts that went a step further. I agree it wasn't the majority of posts, but enough. I would also suggest that perhaps some of those suggesting that might not have the best interest of Democrats doing well in the midterms.

The reason I don't want to supply a link right now is because there seems to be unusual activity going on lately where I don't want to risk getting an alert.

I am pretty sure you know where I am coming from, I was a Hillary supporter, and I know where you stood. I also am aware most of us here, no matter who our preference was, were together in the general election, and are together in the midterms

In fact, I couldn't be happier with what Bernie has been doing to get out the vote for the midterms, and if his influence is able to get that racist asshole Steve King out, I would be ecstatic.

Long story short, I was pointing out what I saw as an inconsistency, though it is understandable, especially under the circumstances, and what we have been going through the last couple of years




scipan

(3,025 posts)
71. sources for "some for forcing M to become a Repub?
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:00 PM
Oct 2018

I can't believe anyone on DU actually said that.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. more than that----
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:18 PM
Oct 2018
Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism represents an authoritarian and repressive political system, where the state controls all citizens, who do not have freedom of expression as well as political participation.
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. So, why shouldn't Dems give her some cover (reward)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:42 PM
Oct 2018

by offering to bring her in to our party? C'mon Dems, I say call their bluff.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. Jeeze, river, don't even ask !!!
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:20 PM
Oct 2018


You know. I know. many/most here know...

An authoritarian, totalitarian police state. That is what is next.. or next after the next after the next after the next...







 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. So the Tea Billies from
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:43 PM
Oct 2018

Kodiac and the Matsu Valley are having a sad. Babcock will do something Stupid shortly. BTW,this is one of Palin's dufus's.

 

irresistable

(989 posts)
9. Here's an idea....She caucuses with Dems....and creates a 50/50 split in the Senate
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:44 PM
Oct 2018

Removes the power from McConnell's hands.

DeminPennswoods

(17,465 posts)
10. That's the ticket, push her out of the GOP and into being an Independent
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:48 PM
Oct 2018

Then she can caucus with whichever party she pleases or form a voting bloc with Sens King and Sanders. Go for it Alaska GOP!

yuiyoshida

(45,386 posts)
15. I really am SO TIRED of REPUBLICANS....
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:03 PM
Oct 2018

I am tired of them having their way with this country... I want this to stop, but I guess this is the future... FUCK THAT...bring on the FUCKING BLUE WAVE!!


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
16. This is what is happening, everywhere.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:16 PM
Oct 2018

If you are not a member of the fascista police state, you are dead meat.

I wonder what will happen to DU and us members..... and other sites, groups of the left-leaning persuasion....

Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism represents an authoritarian and repressive political system, where the state controls all citizens, who do not have freedom of expression as well as political participation.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
40. I am never attempting to install fear.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:41 PM
Oct 2018

I am never attempting to install fear.
I just try to be as objective as I can with what I can see.
And what I see is not good for the future, to be honest.
I saw a lot of it long ago-- actually learning a lot from European friends who saw it before I did and who have a closer connection with fascism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism --

Even my sister and brother-in-law saw it coming more than 15 years ago, along with the failure of the financial system, whether by design or not. ..I kind of believed them kind of didn't, and basically ignored the signs...
Know one's enemy.
I will continue to fire at that enemy.... as long as I can..

I am working as a volunteer for Nate McMurray in the NY 27th. Not much, but as I can, and I donate as I can.
I am almost 75..... whatever that means...

Hope that explains some....





ZZenith

(4,468 posts)
47. I really appreciate your response.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:01 PM
Oct 2018

Whenever totalitarianism is described as a “faith accompli” around here I always worry that it’s an attempt to soften up our resistance to the idea.

I much prefer to see it couched in possibility rather than written in stone. Please forgive my intrusion, I just want to understand more clearly.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
50. No problem. Glad you asked...
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:05 PM
Oct 2018

You know what, I really have no idea how to tell who the trolls are.. That's how naive I am.

But, I just think we are missing the forest for the trees. I sure did....

And we here know more than probably 90% of Americans !

That is REALLY scary...

Eh, I get to play Dvorak, Beethoven and STAR WARS this week. LOL
I'm still allowed to do that.



ZZenith

(4,468 posts)
51. Art is what makes life worth living
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:10 PM
Oct 2018

And the artless are so jealous of the artful they will do anything to make the world an uglier place.

I will be bashing out Rock music while you are making the pleasing Classical music.

I wish you all good things.

ffr

(23,390 posts)
21. More open retribution from the GOP thug party.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:22 PM
Oct 2018

Swear allegiance or get out of their way. Not democracy. Tyranny.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,387 posts)
26. Fuckers are going to investigate her for exercising her independent judgment
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:55 PM
Oct 2018

and voting the way she thought was best for her constituency (including the Native people who were intensely against Kavanaugh's appointment)? What a bunch of Stalinist douchenozzles.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
60. sure it is, but if they are stupid enough to push this before the midterms, after the midterms she
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 11:23 PM
Oct 2018

could very easily change her party status to independent, or (wishful thinking), Democratic

madaboutharry

(42,032 posts)
28. Wow, their authoritarianism is showing.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:59 PM
Oct 2018

No independent thought allowed. Tow the party line or you're off to the gulag.

The republican party is made up of terrible people.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
30. Why Does Anyone Think the Party that Brought Us Sarah Palin
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:11 PM
Oct 2018

Would act rationally and with thought.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,366 posts)
39. Seems they failed once already with that kind of shit
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:39 PM
Oct 2018

Remember when she was reelected as a write in candidate.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
45. When that happened she should have become an independent and caucused with the
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:56 PM
Oct 2018

Democrats. I'm holding out hope that she will wake up and do that this time.

totodeinhere

(13,688 posts)
42. If they are smart they will leave her alone. Depending on the election outcome
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:54 PM
Oct 2018

they might need her vote to keep control of the Senate. But since they aren't so smart they will probably reprimand her.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
48. They continuously blab about independence and freedumb.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:01 PM
Oct 2018

But they are nothing but a bunch of goose-stepping hypocrites.

Gore1FL

(22,942 posts)
62. She did in 2010, which makes it especially funny that the AK GOP seems to think it has power.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 12:13 AM
Oct 2018

While she was elected as a Republican again in 2016, I would imagine she wields more power than they really want to mess with.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
67. She should leave the GOP
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 09:36 AM
Oct 2018

She won as a write in, and clearly disagreed with their biggest goal (getting a Conservative on the court at all costs). She doesn't need them, no reason to be loyal.

Buckeyeblue

(6,345 posts)
70. We should invite her over. What does she want?
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:44 PM
Oct 2018

Politics are all over the place in Alaska. She could flip parties and I don't think she would lose support. Might pick up some.

Give her one or two things that she wants in exchange for her not voting against us on judicial nominees.

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