Exclusive: President Trump vows to send as many troops to the border 'as necessary' to stop caravan
Source: USA Today
David Jackson,Susan Page and John Fritze, USA TODAY Published 7:35 p.m. ET Oct. 22, 2018
HOUSTON President Donald Trump on Monday vowed to send as many troops as necessary to the U.S.-Mexican border to block a growing caravan of Central American migrants, calling their trek an assault on our country.
In an exclusive interview with USA TODAY aboard Air Force One, the president said there were people from the Middle East in their ranks, reiterating a claim he made without evidence in a morning tweet. The president declined to say whether his assertion was based on intelligence agencies or some other source.
While Trump has made unsubstantiated charges that Democrats had funded the migrants, he said the television footage that showed them straggling north was rebounding to the political benefit of Republicans in the midterms. The caravan could be seen on a TV, tuned to Fox News, on the wall of his office aboard the presidential aircraft.
I think this could be a blessing in disguise because it shows how bad our laws are, he said. The Democrats are responsible for that.
Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/22/trump-halt-migrant-caravan-many-troops-necessary/1731717002/
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)go for it trump
they aint voting republican
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Wuddles440
(1,123 posts)Also, knowing the Trumpenfuhrer's draconian policies regarding immigrants, why would anyone even remotely think that they were going to be able to enter the United States without encountering significant resistance. I suspect that you'll see this caravan disappear after November 6th.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)This type of manipulation would be almost impossible to prove.
brush
(53,778 posts)border for another 90 days or soand by then fatigue will have long set in and it'll more likely be remnants of what it is now as many will have dropped out and decided to make a go of it in Mexico.
They just got into southern Mexico and have 2.000 miles to go to reach our southern border.
It's all repug hype to influence voters. We don't have to fall for it. Once the election is over I'm betting we won't hear a word about it from the orange pustule.
llmart
(15,540 posts)and they started off their reporting saying "The majority of Americans agree with Trump on his caravan stance."
So, there's that. This is the sort of propaganda we're up against. It's just another version of the Comey story coming out right before the 2016 election.
brush
(53,778 posts)We'll still win at least the House and several state houses.
Don't panic. Millions of women are still pissed over Kavanaugh and will vote.
llmart
(15,540 posts)if the news media keeps it out there, it will sway voters or get more trump dummies out to vote.
I do not want to underestimate anything any more.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)Botany
(70,506 posts)I keep thinking the way Trump keeps saying that democratic money is behind
this caravan that in truth* republican/right wing money is helping the caravan
in order to help Trump w/his base.
* just like Trump keeps saying that paid people went to protest Kavanaugh
and support Hillary but in Truth Trump has paid people behind him @ his
rallies.
haele
(12,655 posts)I'm estimating an adult hiker of average strength and stamina at a determined pace by him/herself, walking about 10/11 hours at 2 - 3 mph, with breaks and 12 hours for setting up of camp and sleeping on normal terrain.
Not a foot soldier/trooper in a column on maneuver, which usually travel between at 40 - 70 at a sustained pace.
Now, throw in kids, people who are marginally sick or somewhat out of shape or disabled, and older people in a large, chaotic group where families are trying to stick together more than move forward, and I can't see more than maybe 15 miles a day at best for the majority of the group.
If they're planning on coming through Texas, there's some really rough terrain they'll have to cross. I doubt they're going to head through the jungles, so they'll have to come up somewhat westerly and then cross both desert and some pretty nasty mountainous area.
Even if the "caravan" of refugees is going to try and cross through Eastern California/Western Arizona, there's some serious desert to go through, and not a lot of foraging.
They also risk wandering drug cartel-affiliated bandits that go after mid-sized groups and other nasty-assed predator sub-humans that roam that area and prey on stragglers.
So, 80 days before whomever can survive come within 100 miles of the U.S.? Around mid/late January?
Haele
Botany
(70,506 posts)Something about this caravan showings up right before the elections doesn't pass my small test.
htuttle
(23,738 posts)...what it is that Democrats would gain from drafting George Soros to pay (who? for what?) for a migrant caravan (filled with Middle Eastern terrorists, no less) to come here with a lot of press coverage right before the midterms when they were trending ahead?
They're not just unsubstantiated charges -- they're nonsensical, irrational charges.
I can't even.
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)atreides1
(16,079 posts)He'll claim it was an invasion and his base and the Republicans in Congress will sit on their hands as the international press shows the world dead men, women and children!!!
atreides1
(16,079 posts)Il Douche, orders the troops to fire on unarmed civilians?
And don't say he won't do it...every time someone has said that even Trump wouldn't do this or do that...he's gone ahead and done it!!!
I truly believe that he will order the military to fire on unarmed civilians, and that those orders are already being drawn up and given to Mattis and the Joint Chiefs! Now, it's just a question of selecting the units that will obey without reservation!!!
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)I am reasonably confident that the JAGs in any unit ordered to enforce immigration law will be telling the commanders that violation of the Posse Comitatus Act is criminal. I am equally confident that DoD lawyers are advising the Joint Chiefs of the same.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The Officer Corp would flat out rebel. Not saying rebel in the Coup sense, but flat out refuse to fire on women and children in our own country.
I know several retired officers, most republican. They swear to the constitution not the president.
No fucking way.
Not to mention the troops. Who are Americans from all classes, regions and demographics of our nation.
Socal31
(2,484 posts)4 dead in O-hi-o....
4 dead in O-hi-o...
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)The military may not be used to enforce immigration laws. This is all bluster.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)of the border. You know Trump will find a way around anything he wants.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)Any JAG worth his or her salary will worn the commander that enforcement of law is itself a criminal violation - and you can't be completely sure the next administration won't bring charges.
christx30
(6,241 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)The Posse comitatus act limits how the military can be used to enforce domestic policies.
getagrip_already
(14,751 posts)The act prevents the government from using the army and air force from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities.
It was passed after the civil war to ensure the army wouldn't be used as an occupying force in the southern states. The air force was added much later, but the navy, marines, and coat guard aren't included.
If the military was deployed to repel a foreign invasion on us soil, it would be perfectly legal.
But this congress wouldn't do a damn thing even if he breaks the law directly. They might even suspend it for him. They may want that anyway to suppress protests.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)There's no substantive difference in the two different interpretations you each make, so your allegation of "that isn't what it says..." seems both inaccurate and somewhat irrational on its face.
getagrip_already
(14,751 posts)So instead of looking at the claim, and then what the act actually says, you make a personal attack?
Why don't you prove what I said wrong before attacking.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Remembering when Obama was president and Republicans said
there were ISIS training camps on the Mexican side of the US border.
SWBTATTReg
(22,124 posts)voting and are not supposed to, that democrats are crooks, that good, decent people who truly care about this country sincerely believe that the country is going in the wrong direction are evil doers?
rump is a serial liar, a big fraud, a tax cheat who's afraid to release anything on his taxes for it'll show how much he's cheated on his taxes, and worse of all, he's a scam claiming that he worth billions of dollars. Prove it.
nocoincidences
(2,218 posts)because he will use any old excuse offered to do it.
He is "all hat, no cattle".
Fullduplexxx
(7,863 posts)PSPS
(13,599 posts)Grasswire2
(13,570 posts)Can't prevent refugees from seeking refuge.
Grasswire2
(13,570 posts)Does anyone have updated info on that?
duforsure
(11,885 posts)When the neo nazi's and other hate groups were attacking people , killed one person in THIS country? He hasn't said a thing about the woman who was murdered on one of our city streets because of these hate groups. He won't demonize them for anything , yet claims these people fleeing violence and corruption, and personal harm are a threat to us, and are criminals. When a president protects the criminals over and over again over Americans or immigrants , and falsely claims immigrants are criminals you know the country is in bad shape.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)President Donald Trump has been single-minded when it comes to immigration, pledging to strengthen the United States borders and keep certain people out, especially if they happen to be from Mexico or some Muslim nations.
But thats OK, says Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida, because theyre one group of foreigners that blends right in.
We want people with good standing to come here and stay as long as they care, Republican Yoho, co-sponsor of the bill, said in an interview. We come from similar backgrounds, we believe in the same thing. Theres no assimilation (necessary). The morals and mores we have are pretty much the same as they have, so its pretty much an easy transition.
if you have money to spend the door is always open