Security guard shoots man trying to break in to FOX 5 building

[mahatmakanejeeves]

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Source: WTOP, 103.5 MHz in DC

Security guard shoots man trying to break in to FOX 5 building
By Lisa Weiner October 22, 2018 3:58 pm

A security guard shot a man near FOX 5's offices on Wisconsin Avenue in Northwest, D.C. just after 3 p.m. Monday.

WASHINGTON -- A security guard shot a man attempting to break in to FOX 5's offices on Wisconsin Avenue in Northwest Monday afternoon.

Just after 3 p.m., the man kicked his way through two sets of glass doors and was confronted by a security guard in the lobby who shot him once in the upper body, said D.C. police Commander Melvin Grisham.

The suspect was responsive when he was taken to the hospital. He is in stable condition.

The man was unarmed at the time of the break-in. Police are investigating{.} ... No one else was hurt during the shooting.

Read more: https://wtop.com/dc/2018/10/security-guard-shoots-man-near-dcs-fox-5-building/

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I wonder how many times I'll have to explain in this thread that Fox Broadcasting and Fox News are separate businesses.

WTTG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTTG), channel 5 in DC, is a Fox Broadcasting owned and operated station. It transmits a television signal on RF channel 36. There are six subchannels; 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 20.1, 20.2, and 20.3. Its operations are regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).

Fox News is a cable operation. Its programming is distributed by cable and satellite systems. It is not regulated by the FCC. Fox News programs do not appear on WTTG.

Where I am, I get my TV over the air, the way nature intended. I've been watching channel 5 since it was a member of the DuMont Television Network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuMont_Television_Network). I've been watching channel 20 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WDCA) since the late '60s. It went on the air in 1966, but my family did not have a TV that picked up UHF stations. I'll be watching tonight. I do not have cable, so I couldn't watch Fox News if I tried.

Got it?

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Now I know what that message "delays on the Red Line due to a shooting at Friendship Heights" was about. Friendship Heights is the Red Line Metrorail station nearest to channel 5.

[7962]

1. Video was really something. Guy had threatened them before.

guard did what he had to do.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

2. He shot him to put him down, not kill him.

Cops could take a lesson from this. How's a guy not going down if you shoot out his sticks? (for example)

[Jedi Guy]

3. He shot the way he was trained to shoot: center mass. In other words, a potentially lethal shot.

This always seems to crop up anytime there's a shooting, and people wonder why the cop/guard didn't shoot the guy's leg, or shoot the weapon out of his hand. The reason they never do that is because they're expressly taught not to do that when they're learning to shoot. The reason they never do that is because real life is not the movies, and trick shots like that are insanely difficult and therefore unlikely to connect.

They're trained to shoot at center mass, the largest target area, and the most likely target area to put the other person down. If they try to shoot a person's leg(s) or weapon, there's a greater chance of missing and hitting a bystander beyond their target, not to mention giving the other guy a great chance to shoot back. That's why they never do it.

The fact that this guy survived is simple luck, not some kind of crazy sharpshooter skills on the part of the guard.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

6. Maybe.

Been shooting guns my whole life. I think I could handle hitting someplace other than center torso easily, and still have the guy make it to trial. I think the guard was of the same mind. Cops in Britain don't generally carry guns. Things aren't bedlam there. Not every shot is a kill shot situation. Cops used to carry .38s bc they made a loud bang. For them then, a lot of times, just the BANG made someone stop. They were loud.
From your description, sounds like "shoot to kill" training IS the problem. Or is it just that most new cops already "shoot to kill" bc they are iraq/afghanistan veterans and thats the starting point. If so, maybe cop school should have..."How to shoot without killing" classes and retrograde some of that mindset some. After ll, we aren't the enemy, we're citizens.

[Retrograde]

4. Is it usual for private security guards to be armed? (n/t)

[Jedi Guy]

5. It's not "usual" but it's not necessarily rare, either.

Most private security firms offer armed guards, but at a substantially higher hourly rate, for obvious reasons. It's pretty uncommon to see them in places like shopping malls and such. I'm not shocked that a media office hired an armed guard, given all of Trump's "enemies of the people" bullshit.

[appalachiablue]

7. Thanks for the Fox breakdown reminder. That's a wonderful neigborhood,

Friendships Hts., Chevy Chase, AU Park, Spring Valley. Lived there years, moved to suburbia and miss it lots.