Iowa library considers options after burning of LGBTQ books

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press


Updated 1:45 pm CDT, Monday, October 29, 2018

ORANGE CITY, Iowa (AP) — Library officials in northwest Iowa are deciding how to respond after a religious activist burned four LGBTQ children's books.

Orange City library director Amanda Vazquez told The Sioux City Journal that officials aren't sure if they'll replace the destroyed books.

"We're exploring our options at this point," she said.

Paul Dorr, the director of religious group Rescue the Perishing, released a nearly 30-minute video on Facebook Live in which he denounced the library for having the LGBTQ books and threw them in a burning barrel. The video was made on Oct. 19, the first day of the city's gay pride festival.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/education/article/Iowa-library-considers-options-after-burning-of-13344922.php

[SoCalNative]

1. Someone should throw him

in a burning barrell then seal it shut.

[rockfordfile]

2. You would think that person would be arrested.

[SouthernIrish]

3. Those are the property of the Library.

Therefore, the property of the city or county the Library is located in. The Library should bring charges against him. That is censorship and should not be tolerated. I would not let him by with this. At the very least, a civil suit.

These people think that their opinion is the only one that matters. Make an example out of him.

[sdfernando]

9. Willful distruction of city property (or county)

I'm sure there is some law on the books for this.

[world wide wally]

20. Make him do community service by going from school to school reading them to students

[Gore1FL]

4. Fine the person just like any other borrower who doesn't return the books. Then replace them.

This doesn't seem like a hard nut to crack.

If the person or someone else does the same, lather rinse repeat.

[sfwriter]

5. fines are for accidental destruction

This is something new.

[Gore1FL]

7. He'll either be buying a lot of replacement books or violate the law by not and pay much more.

The system is in place and is capable of dealing with the culprit.

[modrepub]

44. Revoke His Library Card And Have The Staff Call The Police If He Shows Up

That should be step 1. Arrests and fines will only encourage more of this behavior.

[LuvNewcastle]

46. That's the way to handle it.

He shouldn't be able to check out books anymore. If they just charge him for the books, he'll just keep paying for them over and over. Deliberately destroying books is not the same as losing books. It's all about the borrower's intentions.

[alwaysinasnit]

6. This RWNJ needs to be held accountable, despite this relatively small infraction, because to do

otherwise only further emboldens them. It is not 100% effective but it does provide a deterrence factor.

[Solly Mack]

8. He burned the books to destroy an idea. You can't kill an idea. The only thing you can kill

is the people who hold to those ideas. Even then the idea does not die but that never seems to stop haters from taking the next step.

Burning books is one step closer to burning people.

Paul Dorr is a danger to others.

[onethatcares]

12. you cannot burn an idea

or the thought that we all live on this planet,

They can hate, they can burn books, they can teach against, but they cannot BURN AN IDEA.

thank you Solly.

[Solly Mack]

16. You're welcome, onethatcares

People do some scary things.

[suegeo]

21. Paul Dorr's Brother is wingnut Tom Dorr

GW Bush (A horrible president, who stole office) appointed wingnut Tom Dorr to Under-secretary of agriculture back in the bad old days.

Tom probably got lots of ag welfare this year due to Putin's puppet "bail out" program

We shoulda never let those Bush goat-effers skate.

[suegeo]

24. Sam Clovis, NW Iowa Nazi and boss of Putin collaborator Papadopolous

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/clovis-is-most-controversial-usda-pick-in-15-years

CLOVIS IS MOST CONTROVERSIAL USDA PICK IN 15 YEARS

Facing a chilly reception from Capitol Hill, Sam Clovis is the most controversial selection for a senior USDA post since Iowa agribusinessman Tom Dorr in the opening days of the George W. Bush administration

and

“Mr. Clovis is a former Trump campaign adviser and conservative radio talk show host with no background in the hard sciences, nor expertise in agriculture policy,” said Coons. In a statement, Coons cited the statutory requirement for the undersecretary for research to be a scientist with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education, and economics. Clovis is a climate-change skeptic,

[suegeo]

25. Sam Clovis, Nazi boss of Papadopoulos

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/you-should-do-it-trump-officials-encouraged-george-papadopouloss-foreign-outreach-documents-show/2018/03/23/2dae8c8e-2d38-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f3991776ef97

Glassner quickly connected Papadopoulos with campaign co-chairman Sam Clovis.

Clovis and Papadopoulos spoke by phone four days later, a conversation in which Clovis said improving relations with Russia was a top foreign policy goal of the campaign, according to what Papadopoulos later told prosecutors.

[Judi Lynn]

28. Had no idea he was connected to a former Bush administration official. Good grief. Thanks. n/t

[suegeo]

35. That Rescue the Perishing site

Whoo Boy. That's some crazy shit.

NW Iowa is a good place to be FROM, you know what I mean.

Who burns books, let alone children's books? How does one reach people so far gone? Why is it my job to reach out to such nutbars? I cannot do it.

Plus they are ag. welfare queens. Rich as eff, from taxpayer money, corporate ag.

[Solly Mack]

39. I agree.

They should have gone to prison and still be in prison as of now.

[Cold War Spook]

10. They are deciding how to respond.

I guess that in Germany when they burned books the library officials said don't worry, they will stop soon.

[SWBTATTReg]

11. This act of vandalism must be responded to and censorship not be allowed, especially ...

by one person. Cowards. Hate has no place in our country and society.

[ROB-ROX]

13. EVIL DICTATORS AND HITLER BURNED BOOKS

The libraries are always making people pay for over due books, lost books, etc. It is very strange none of these book fines were mentioned to replace the missing books? My county requires a permit for a fire. This was definitely done for the reason of HATE........The bastard should be in jail for his heinous act and publicly fined and shamed...........

[keithbvadu2]

14. Burn the Bible but just the version he uses. He should be ok with that, in principle.

Burn the Bible but just the version he uses.

He should be ok with that, in principle.

[Judi Lynn]

15. Man Burns LGBT Kids' Books to Spite Pride Event

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EsGd7vVQIPA/RzNxieV4tYI/AAAAAAAAAVI/PYXlAM8nRo4/s400/paull+door.jpg



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Man Burns LGBT Kids' Books to Spite Pride Event
There may be legal action against Paul Dorr by the library where he says he got the books from

By Jenn Gidman, Newser Staff
Posted Oct 26, 2018 2:22 PM CDT


(NEWSER) – What was supposed to be a positive celebration of an LGBT community in Iowa was somewhat marred after a man recorded himself on Facebook burning LGBT-themed books (some of them children's volumes) he said he'd checked out of the Orange City Public Library. The Des Moines Register IDs the man as Paul Dorr, who runs a religious group called Rescue the Perishing, and he started his book-burning Friday right before an OC Pride event. "I cannot stand by and let the shameful adults at the Orange City library board bring the next group of little children into their foul sexual reality without a firm resistance," Dorr said in the video, per Iowa Public Radio. He hurled insults like "filthy" and "shameful" at what appeared to be four books he proceeded to burn, along with a tangerine-colored dress.

"I found it disgusting," Mark Stringer, executive director of the ACLU of Iowa, tells the Des Moines Register of Dorr's actions. Stringer adds that someone burning books from a public library is akin to "deciding that they're the gatekeeper of ideas for the rest of the public." The Register notes that three of the books Dorr set on fire were on a petition that circulated earlier this year asking the library to either ban or separate LGBT books from all the others. The library did eventually reorganize its books by category instead of alphabetically by author name. The library says there may be legal action against Dorr. (A Florida book burning ended up destroying 10 homes.)

http://www.newser.com/story/266457/before-lgbt-pride-event-man-burns-lgbt-kids-books.html

(Short article, no more at link.)



A terrifying tangerine dress.

[suegeo]

23. WTF is the significance of burning a tangerine-colored dress?

Dorr is unhinged, made further unhinged by military grade psy ops aimed at this hayseed and his fellow hog farmers.

Steve King is the Congressman from/of this outer ring of hell.

[suegeo]

27. Christine Baldacchino's "Morris Micklewhite and the Tangerine Dress."

https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/orange-city-public-library-explores-its-options-after-book-burning/article_44b54abd-edbc-5cdd-bf29-f734edf4c0a5.html#tracking-source=home-trending

The Dorr Nazi burned a CHILDRENS BOOK titled "Morris Micklewhite and the Tangerine Dress."

[BigDemVoter]

17. Huh? They won't replace them?

That is allowing that motherfucker to win.

[StTimofEdenRoc]

26. No shit, you fine them three times the replacement cost (extra for willful destruction)

and you order three times as many.

[Judi Lynn]

30. Good response. That seems reasonable. Welcome to D.U., StTimofEdenRoc.

[StTimofEdenRoc]

33. Thank You for the welcome, this story irritated me so bad I ordered them a book.

[cstanleytech]

40. Plus you file a police report and hopefully they are arrested and convicted followed by

as part of their sentence to never set foot on any public libraries grounds in that state again for atleast 5 years.

[ifihad2]

18. one more thing

... looks like we're heading for Well's "1984" ... now can include Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" ... getting hard to get out of bed in the morning

[Judi Lynn]

31. To be followed closely by finding it hard to get to sleep.

"Fahrenheit 451" never has looked more likely.

Horrid.

Welcome to D.U., ifihad2.

[ifihad2]

42. thanks

thanks for the welcome ... helps a lot to be able to "be here"

[k-dub]

19. So....let me get this straight

We've had book burnings, an attack against people of the Jewish faith, radical hostility toward "non" natives....etc, etc. etc...

have we fallen into a black hole and ended up in 1930s Germany?

I fully expect left wing parties to be banned and persecuted any day now....

[Judi Lynn]

32. No doubt whatsoever they would do this if they believed they could get by with it.

There clearly is that much hatred out there.

Never thought we would see this from our country.

Welcome to D.U., K-dub.

[cstanleytech]

41. That seems what many Repugnants want including those in Congress otherwise people like

Mitch, Ryan, Cruz and the rest would have completely denounced them years ago but all we hear from them are crickets.

[suegeo]

22. Where books are burned, in the end, people will also be burned.

https://curiosity.com/topics/heinrich-heines-quote-about-book-burning-eerily-predicted-the-holocaust-curiosity/

In 1823, Heinrich Heine wrote the words, "Dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen," or "Where books are burned, in the end, people will also be burned." More than a century later in 1933, young Nazi students in Germany organized a nationwide book burning to eliminate foreign influence. As this quote eerily predicted, the mass murder of Jews in the Holocaust soon followed.

[StTimofEdenRoc]

29. I went to amazon and ordered them "GORGE".

send them an LGBT book

ORANGE CITY PUBLIC LIBRARY. 112 Albany Ave SE Orange City, IA 51041.

[Judi Lynn]

34. That act will be very appreciated. n/t

[StTimofEdenRoc]

47. Well it has been a week, and they have not returned it to Amazon. So that is good.

[suegeo]

36. Is there anyone awake (or not a Nazi) at Northwestern's art dept.?

https://www.nwciowa.edu/art

[suegeo]

38. An artist at Diamond Vogel Paint, paints the town orange/tangerine?

https://www.diamondvogel.com/home/

You are one or two or ten steps ahead, whoever made the orange theme at the website of NW Iowa Paint manufacturer Diamond Vogel.

Most respect. October 2018

[Jedi Guy]

37. Whatever happened to live and let live?

If you don't like a book, don't read it or don't let your kids read it. If someone else wants to, that's none of your business. I just don't understand why people can't just mind their own affairs.

Bill the dumbass for the books he destroyed. If he doesn't pay (and of course he won't) then go from there with whatever remedies they normally use for people who don't pay for books they lose/wreck.

[Sunlei]

43. another RW fanatic makes a small PUBLIC library a target of hate groups.

throw the book at him!

[Ilsa]

45. Are they going to start burning books about

MLK OR Women who broke free of stereotypical roles and succeeded in a male-dominated field just because those books don't adhere to their Sexist and racist worldview?