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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:16 PM Nov 2018

now 23 dead ,as of 10pm ET,.. as fires spread on both ends of California

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Last edited Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:21 AM - Edit history (12)

Source: CNN

A Northern California fire has become the most destructive in the state's modern history, killing at least nine people and wiping out much of an entire town.

A quarter of a million people have been forced from their homes statewide as the Camp Fire in the north and two other major fires -- Woolsey and Hill -- in Southern California burned this weekend.








Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/10/us/california-wildfires-camp-woolsey-hill/index.html



updates, ...The Figmant .. 6453 homes .... see 15 below...
and.................dalton99a ......25 deaths........see 17 below
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now 23 dead ,as of 10pm ET,.. as fires spread on both ends of California (Original Post) Stuart G Nov 2018 OP
Trump won't help them SummerSnow Nov 2018 #1
I sure hope you are wrong...Federal help is necessary ...nt Stuart G Nov 2018 #2
Trump tweets 'gross mismanagement of forests' is to blame for California wildfires IronLionZion Nov 2018 #3
Worst fire in California history...250,000 evacuations,,and all he can do is "blame" Stuart G Nov 2018 #4
Fuck him PasadenaTrudy Nov 2018 #7
The fires didn't start in State forests. haele Nov 2018 #8
This one may (Camp Fire) well be on PG&E, again. herding cats Nov 2018 #9
So sorry to hear about your Mom's situation... Onward AND Upward Nov 2018 #23
True - it's a deep blue state central scrutinizer Nov 2018 #5
If he is.."gleeful" about this fire, then he needs to be locked up immediately..nt Stuart G Nov 2018 #6
This is his responsibility... clementine613 Nov 2018 #19
Not good. Socal31 Nov 2018 #10
I know some people over there too CountAllVotes Nov 2018 #11
Hugs. Socal31 Nov 2018 #12
Check #CampFire - people are positng photos of people they found as well as those missing. Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #18
Just updated... The Figment Nov 2018 #13
I changed the headline to reflect your post...no words is correct.. Stuart G Nov 2018 #14
6453 homes, 270+businesses destroyed. The Figment Nov 2018 #15
Unimaginable... Stuart G Nov 2018 #16
Death toll rises to 25 as 200,000 flee the most destructive fires in California's history dalton99a Nov 2018 #17
Is Trump Ever Going To Be Held To Account For This? clementine613 Nov 2018 #20
Bummer, the North Winds kicked back in today Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #21
Real time info here...2:30 Sunday The Figment Nov 2018 #22
He has now sunk lower than EVER... Onward AND Upward Nov 2018 #24
Locking Omaha Steve Nov 2018 #25

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. Trump won't help them
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:21 PM
Nov 2018

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
2. I sure hope you are wrong...Federal help is necessary ...nt
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:23 PM
Nov 2018

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
3. Trump tweets 'gross mismanagement of forests' is to blame for California wildfires
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018
“Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!,” he added.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142198846

He's willing to punish California for being a blue state

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
4. Worst fire in California history...250,000 evacuations,,and all he can do is "blame"
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:35 PM
Nov 2018

Think about it...all the homes destroyed..

What a sick piece of sh*t..my apologies to sh*t

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
7. Fuck him
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:45 PM
Nov 2018

we will get through this

haele

(12,647 posts)
8. The fires didn't start in State forests.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:19 PM
Nov 2018

And only maybe 5% of the forests in California are State forests, the rest are either National forests or leased Federal land.
Brush fires typically start on either private or county property, or on easments.

So, if anyone is lax on forest management, it's probably the Federal Government or Private landowners.

Haele

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
9. This one may (Camp Fire) well be on PG&E, again.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:00 PM
Nov 2018

There were reports of a line issue near the origin of the fire at the time it started.

My mom probably is about to lose her home tonight. They've told her to prepare for the worst outcome. Fuck Trump! He has no idea what he's talking about!

Onward AND Upward

(122 posts)
23. So sorry to hear about your Mom's situation...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 06:40 PM
Nov 2018

Here in the smoke filled burbs, I'm thinking good thoughts for her and you.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
5. True - it's a deep blue state
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:48 PM
Nov 2018

With 3,000,000 (at least) illegal voters (in other words-brown skinned) who cost him the popular vote in 2016. I’m sure he’s gleeful.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
6. If he is.."gleeful" about this fire, then he needs to be locked up immediately..nt
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:54 PM
Nov 2018

clementine613

(561 posts)
19. This is his responsibility...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 AM
Nov 2018

They happened on his watch. He should have to pay for each and every one of those deaths.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
10. Not good.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:12 PM
Nov 2018

I have a missing uncle in Paradise

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
11. I know some people over there too
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:35 PM
Nov 2018

A 97 year old father and his son. No idea. None. indeed

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
12. Hugs.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 10:06 PM
Nov 2018

The video going around of a man walking up onto a bunch of cars full of people who didn't make it. I would never watch it again, but it makes it so real. He makes a comment that one person didnt get out with him because they ran back into the house for something extremely unnecessary.

Horrible 36hr period.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
18. Check #CampFire - people are positng photos of people they found as well as those missing.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:25 AM
Nov 2018

There was a man around 94 someone found and they don't know who his family is.

The Figment

(494 posts)
13. Just updated...
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 10:50 PM
Nov 2018

23 dead as of 6pm Pacific.

I have no words

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
14. I changed the headline to reflect your post...no words is correct..
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:25 PM
Nov 2018

Imagine the number of homes burned down. dozens? hundreds?

The Figment

(494 posts)
15. 6453 homes, 270+businesses destroyed.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:49 PM
Nov 2018

Live streaming news update here...

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
16. Unimaginable...
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:50 PM
Nov 2018

dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
17. Death toll rises to 25 as 200,000 flee the most destructive fires in California's history
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:51 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/10/trump-blames-gross-mismanagement-wildfires-leave-trail-death-destruction-california/
Death toll rises to 25 as 200,000 flee the most destructive fires in California’s history
By Joel Achenbach, Cleve R. Wootson Jr. and E. Aaron Williams
November 10 at 9:39 PM

clementine613

(561 posts)
20. Is Trump Ever Going To Be Held To Account For This?
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:24 AM
Nov 2018

He's responsible for things that happen in the US under his watch. But the government, under his control, will never indict or try him for these deaths. SMH

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
21. Bummer, the North Winds kicked back in today
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 01:05 PM
Nov 2018

My Magic 8-Ball says all the containment they eked out yesterday is lost.

The Figment

(494 posts)
22. Real time info here...2:30 Sunday
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:33 PM
Nov 2018

Onward AND Upward

(122 posts)
24. He has now sunk lower than EVER...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 06:58 PM
Nov 2018

There are videos of people trapped in their vehicles, stuck in traffic, with flames all around them, as the anguished voices of their children ask about the increasing fire and heat.

Some were found dead in those vehicles.

Some were seen getting out of the trapped vehicles, and running down the road, flames all around, with their children in their arms.

A couple who got out just in time, saw a man on the road, in front of their house, trying to out run the flames with an infant in his arms.

How many housebound and elderly had no one to come for them, because access was already cutoff?

We are dealing with pure EVIL in the White House. If there was any doubt before today, let there be none now.

Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
25. Locking
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 08:29 PM
Nov 2018

Title has not kept up with the updates. Must be an exact match.

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