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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:44 AM Nov 2018

Russia accuses Trump of cancelling Putin meeting over 'domestic political situation'

Source: The Hill



BY JOHN BOWDEN - 11/30/18 08:23 AM EST

Russian officials on Friday cast doubt on President Trump's official reason for canceling a planned bilateral summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin saying that the "US domestic political situation” was the reason for Trump's decision to not meet with Putin.

Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for Russia's foreign ministry, said there was reason to doubt the Trump administration's given explanation of rising tensions between Russia and Ukrainian forces along the border of Crimea for the cancellation, according to CNN.

“Was the provocation organized by Kiev in this region the real reason for cancellation?” Zakharova said in a press conference first reported by Russian news agency RIA Novosti. “Publicly, we heard just such an explanation, we took note of it. Is this a reality?"

"I think that you still need to look for answers in the US domestic political situation," she added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/419061-russia-trump-canceled-putin-meeting-over-domestic-political-situation

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Russia accuses Trump of cancelling Putin meeting over 'domestic political situation' (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Right ee o ananda Nov 2018 #1
When even Russia criticizes Trump...... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2018 #2
The problem with kopramat HopeAgain Nov 2018 #3
Yeah, Trump has been a failure of a puppet. watoos Nov 2018 #7
Now that would be justice if NRA had to answer to that dirty Russian money. Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #22
yes, he will be no use to Putin anymore except as a foil. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #27
a rawstory report (yeah, I know) said russia was summoning him to the meeting.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #4
What's wrong with Raw Story? watoos Nov 2018 #8
It's not so much the content as the methods..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #14
Their headlines tend to be hyperbolic. Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #25
They collect articles and implicitly pass them off as their own, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #26
Makes Sense Roy Rolling Nov 2018 #11
Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird; it's a plane. It's Captain Obivious! sarge43 Nov 2018 #5
It's the Baby Trump blimp. watoos Nov 2018 #10
When the boss sets up a time for your evaluation, you'd better show up! rurallib Nov 2018 #6
Trump is bawling under his desk he doesn't want to go to the principal's office. watoos Nov 2018 #12
They just called him 'weak' Maeve Nov 2018 #9
Russia is very comfortable about trying to dictate the actuons of Individual 1. Squinch Nov 2018 #13
no shit. barbtries Nov 2018 #15
I think it's an act Midnightwalk Nov 2018 #16
Start tweeting back, coward Cirque du So-What Nov 2018 #17
Coming from putin duforsure Nov 2018 #18
Whoopsie! Looks like even Pooty-poot got conned by Donnie Dumbo! Crowman2009 Nov 2018 #19
Nah. That Haldeman phrase:"Let him twist slowly, twist slowly in the wind." mpcamb Nov 2018 #24
Sounds like Individual 1 is getting a shitty year end review flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #20
Comes across as staged. ffr Nov 2018 #21
What do you do with a 'useful idiot' who is no longer useful? mpcamb Nov 2018 #23

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,791 posts)
2. When even Russia criticizes Trump......
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:46 AM
Nov 2018

You know things are BAD.

Watch this space. Russia has the gkkds, along with Mueller, on Trump.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. The problem with kopramat
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:48 AM
Nov 2018

is that it becomes of little use once the mark becomes otherwise compromised. I expect thing to turn ugly between Russia and Trump.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. Yeah, Trump has been a failure of a puppet.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:55 AM
Nov 2018

Repeal of the Magnitsky Act isn't going to happen.
Repeal of sanctions for drilling in the arctic aren't going to be lifted.
Will be interesting to see what happens with this renewed Russian aggression in Ukraine.

Wonder if the NRA will have to pay back all of that Russian money it funneled to Republicans? I mean Putin's guy Rohrabacher got beat. Nunes did squeak by.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
4. a rawstory report (yeah, I know) said russia was summoning him to the meeting....
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:51 AM
Nov 2018

Can you imagine if the russians had summoned obamma - and he showed up?

This very notion should be appalling to ANY american, let alone the GOP. For russia t just say "we are going to meet" and have trump do it, should be enough to hot rail conviction in the senate.

Should be, but putin has spent millions on buying the gop, and senators especially. They will dismiss it as theatrics.

Disgusting.

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
14. It's not so much the content as the methods.....
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

RawStory seemingly plagiarize's (imho and many other people) stories from other sources and put their own by-line on it. Usually they will have some teenie-tiny tag saying it originally appeared on "x" or "y", but rarely do they provide a link to the story itself unless it's a site like salon.

They are an aggregator, which is very useful, but they take credit for stories they really didn't write - just edited.

A very dubious practice to say the least.

Qutzupalotl

(14,330 posts)
25. Their headlines tend to be hyperbolic.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018

Although not as bad as Politicus USA.

In this case, the Russians never used the word for “summoned.” It is true that they did not accept the cancellation, which is weird.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,856 posts)
26. They collect articles and implicitly pass them off as their own,
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:35 PM
Nov 2018

which they get away with by including a link to the original article, but the pieces are structured to look like Raw Story's original work. Their headlines are often exaggerated and inaccurate, written to operate as clickbait, which is pretty much all Raw Story has become.

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
11. Makes Sense
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:00 AM
Nov 2018

I never considered Trump was summoned. Maybe on the wild end of conspiracy theories, but 100% plausible. And as "our dear leader" said yesterday, nothing is off the table.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
6. When the boss sets up a time for your evaluation, you'd better show up!
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:54 AM
Nov 2018

Or there will be consequences.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
9. They just called him 'weak'
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:57 AM
Nov 2018

Not in so many word, mind you, but....strong men don't bow to 'domestic political situations'

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
15. no shit.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:11 AM
Nov 2018

i don't even believe it, i think he's going to meet with Putin. somehow or another. putin calls, trump jumps.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
16. I think it's an act
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:12 AM
Nov 2018

The optics would be particularly bad right now. Trump gets to say he did something on Ukraine. Putin gets to act like Trump isn't a puppet.

I've read some think that Putin might be regretting cultivating Trump. I think reducing American influence in the world, hurting our economy, causing domestic instability are more important to him long term than getting sanctions lifted,etc.

It's cheaper to compete by taking us down some notches.

Who knows how it will play out. Maybe there will be blow back that makes him regret. I think American's have short term memories. The Russians can play nice for a few years and get sanctions removed in less time than it will take to undo the damage caused.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Coming from putin
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:20 AM
Nov 2018

Like with trump this could be all for PR, and they really meet in secret to get their stories straight, and for trump to get his orders.

mpcamb

(2,875 posts)
24. Nah. That Haldeman phrase:"Let him twist slowly, twist slowly in the wind."
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:19 PM
Nov 2018

That's where they'll leave trump.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
20. Sounds like Individual 1 is getting a shitty year end review
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 10:29 AM
Nov 2018

Putin knows trump is going down. Once trump is no longer of value, Putin is going to say, America is a weak failure, look at what your democracy has done.

Which is what he wanted all along.

mpcamb

(2,875 posts)
23. What do you do with a 'useful idiot' who is no longer useful?
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:13 PM
Nov 2018

Who becomes more trouble than he's worth?
Who becomes a burden?

frump will need to avoid high buildings and Saudi embassies.
A US impeachment trial may start looking good.

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