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orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:51 PM Dec 2018

Dow sinks 800 points as trade truce enthusiasm fades

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

New York (CNN Business) That was fast. Wall Street's enthusiasm for the US-China trade truce has completely vanished.

The Dow dropped as much as 805 points, or 3%, on Tuesday. It was recently down about 700 points.

...

Big tech stocks fell sharply. Apple (AAPL), Amazon (AMZN) and Alphabet (GOOGL) lost more than 3% apiece.

The selloff wipes out Monday's 288-point jump on the Dow. That rally had been fueled by relief over the ceasefire between the United States and China on the trade front.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/12/04/investing/stock-market-today-dow-jones/index.html

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Dow sinks 800 points as trade truce enthusiasm fades (Original Post) orangecrush Dec 2018 OP
It's the way markets should respond to trumps bullshit tweets. Turbineguy Dec 2018 #1
Agree 100% orangecrush Dec 2018 #14
... C Moon Dec 2018 #2
Yup! orangecrush Dec 2018 #12
Meanwhile, it's still up over the last five days, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #3
It's only up less than 200 for the entire year leftynyc Dec 2018 #7
Read more posts... LanternWaste Dec 2018 #10
One fox business reporter laid it at trumps mr tarrif Watchfoxheadexplodes Dec 2018 #4
Now looking for new job! orangecrush Dec 2018 #15
Markets don't respond well Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #5
Ding! Ding! Ding! orangecrush Dec 2018 #17
Down 807 now. Edit now down 787. Edit again - down 799 @ close. BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #6
Let me save everyone some time. Yavin4 Dec 2018 #8
Yeah, I'm shorting the indices BeatStanford Dec 2018 #11
I'm going with a plain-jane-lorraine savings account Yavin4 Dec 2018 #13
Better sit on foreign cash. House of Roberts Dec 2018 #19
Nah. The USD is still the safest currency on the planet despite Trump. Yavin4 Dec 2018 #20
I wish I believed that. House of Roberts Dec 2018 #21
Again despite Trump, America is seen as the most stable nation on the planet Yavin4 Dec 2018 #24
#TrumpSlump (R) Achilleaze Dec 2018 #9
Truth orangecrush Dec 2018 #18
Yep. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #28
Uh, inverted yield curve? House of Roberts Dec 2018 #16
if you're making investment decisions Kurt V. Dec 2018 #22
This monster is going to whipe out a lot of seniors' retirement Raven Dec 2018 #23
Just a rough patch, time to get a truck load of stocks elmac Dec 2018 #25
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Dec 2018 #26
Painful day. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #27
After a review by forum hosts...locking. Omaha Steve Dec 2018 #29

Turbineguy

(40,068 posts)
1. It's the way markets should respond to trumps bullshit tweets.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:53 PM
Dec 2018

orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
14. Agree 100%
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:41 PM
Dec 2018

C Moon

(13,642 posts)
2. ...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:54 PM
Dec 2018

orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
12. Yup!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:40 PM
Dec 2018



PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
3. Meanwhile, it's still up over the last five days,
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:54 PM
Dec 2018

last month, last six months, last year.

The market goes up, it goes down. I almost never see anyone post here when the market is up several hundred points, only when it goes down.

And in the long run, stocks are a solid investment. Especially a diversified portfolio.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. It's only up less than 200 for the entire year
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

Normally you would be correct but the volatility of this market is a direct result of the imbecile in the oval office. Today's sell off was largely due to his retarded tweet this morning.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Read more posts...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:33 PM
Dec 2018

"I almost never see anyone post here when the market is up several hundred points, only when it goes down..."

Read more posts. Market gains get plenty of attention on DU, from the cries of "it's a bubble!" to the lauding of one's personal 401k.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,542 posts)
4. One fox business reporter laid it at trumps mr tarrif
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:55 PM
Dec 2018

Comment

Host

Thank you for that reporting we will be right back.

orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
15. Now looking for new job!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

Cirque du So-What

(29,724 posts)
5. Markets don't respond well
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:56 PM
Dec 2018

to trade deals that are nothing more than figments from the fevered imagination of a lying sack of shit.

orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
17. Ding! Ding! Ding!
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:43 PM
Dec 2018



BumRushDaShow

(169,719 posts)
6. Down 807 now. Edit now down 787. Edit again - down 799 @ close.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 04:58 PM
Dec 2018
 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
8. Let me save everyone some time.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:22 PM
Dec 2018

The markets are going to be volatile at the very least for the foreseeable future. Why? It's been propped up by Fed stimulus, tax cuts, and buy backs. Once the sugar high wears off, we'll be in a bear market for some time to come.

If you cannot handle the volatility, cash out and wait out the storm.

 

BeatStanford

(20 posts)
11. Yeah, I'm shorting the indices
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:37 PM
Dec 2018

Scaled at 60%-80% of present price for my strikes and scaled 18-36 months. The longer term settles are esoteric and carry a huge premium, but I feel good about them.

Any thoughts Yavin?

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
13. I'm going with a plain-jane-lorraine savings account
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:40 PM
Dec 2018

which has out-performed the markets this year. I still have some exposure to the markets but for 2019, I'm sitting on cash. I'll come back when the world returns to normal, whatever normal is.

House of Roberts

(6,521 posts)
19. Better sit on foreign cash.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:45 PM
Dec 2018

Pounds, euros, even rubles would be better than dollars at this time.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
20. Nah. The USD is still the safest currency on the planet despite Trump.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:46 PM
Dec 2018

If that goes, we're in Mad Max world.

House of Roberts

(6,521 posts)
21. I wish I believed that.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:02 PM
Dec 2018

Our debt is too high, and the wealthy are just itching for hyper inflation to devalue assets in this country so they can own it all for next to nothing.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
24. Again despite Trump, America is seen as the most stable nation on the planet
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:51 PM
Dec 2018

Debt does not matter, and the Fed is tackling that with higher rates.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
9. #TrumpSlump (R)
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:25 PM
Dec 2018

republican lies are dangerous
republican lies are dangerous
republican lies are dangerous

orangecrush

(30,247 posts)
18. Truth
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:43 PM
Dec 2018

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Yep. nt
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 08:57 PM
Dec 2018

House of Roberts

(6,521 posts)
16. Uh, inverted yield curve?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:42 PM
Dec 2018

Makes more sense than anything else.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
22. if you're making investment decisions
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:06 PM
Dec 2018

based on tRump tweets...maybe that's on you.

Raven

(14,275 posts)
23. This monster is going to whipe out a lot of seniors' retirement
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:14 PM
Dec 2018

savings and the older they are, the worse off they're going to be.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
25. Just a rough patch, time to get a truck load of stocks
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:57 PM
Dec 2018

I'm kidding!!! run, run for your liiiiiives……

Gothmog

(179,822 posts)
26. From the Hoarse Whisperer
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 07:38 PM
Dec 2018

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. Painful day. nt
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 08:55 PM
Dec 2018

Omaha Steve

(109,221 posts)
29. After a review by forum hosts...locking.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:23 PM
Dec 2018

Not enough new info to be an update. It is a dupe of : https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142216048

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