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pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:23 PM Dec 2018

White Nationalist Convicted Of First-Degree Murder In C'ville Car Attack

Source: Talking Points Memo

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — A man who drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters at a white nationalist rally in Virginia was convicted Friday of first-degree murder for killing a woman in an attack that inflamed long-simmering racial and political tensions across the country.

A state jury rejected arguments that James Alex Fields Jr. acted in self-defense during a “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville on Aug. 12, 2017. Jurors also convicted Fields of eight other charges, including aggravated malicious wounding and hit and run.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/white-nationalist-convicted-murder-charlottesville-car-attack



Fine People

Late Edit...and a shout out to all of those that called for legislation decriminalizing driving over protestors, we remember who you are...
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White Nationalist Convicted Of First-Degree Murder In C'ville Car Attack (Original Post) pecosbob Dec 2018 OP
Good. n/t Adsos Letter Dec 2018 #1
"... jury rejected arguments that James Alex Fields Jr. acted in self-defense..." RockRaven Dec 2018 #2
yes NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #3
Bullshit works well for Trump; but not for his Trumpians laserhaas Dec 2018 #10
If you've got nothing better to go with, than that's what you go with. eggplant Dec 2018 #11
He claimed the protesters made him fear for hs safety. Adsos Letter Dec 2018 #12
Some Public Defenders Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #4
These kind of appeals don't go far or take long. JohnnyRingo Dec 2018 #17
Yeah, I don't know about Virginia, Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #18
The insanity defense is off the table. That would have been done by now. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2018 #54
Meh. That's fine. Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #35
This is Landmark. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #5
Justice. Is. Served. Initech Dec 2018 #6
Ditto. iluvtennis Dec 2018 #39
I admit that I did think he would get off. Glad to see this. riversedge Dec 2018 #49
K&R 2naSalit Dec 2018 #7
Awesome And Just colsohlibgal Dec 2018 #8
Sometimes, Justice does find a way. laserhaas Dec 2018 #9
Little red pill is gone. Corgigal Dec 2018 #13
Who? Archae Dec 2018 #58
He still has Federal charges to answer. nt Yonnie3 Dec 2018 #14
No worries. Fuckface will pardon him. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2018 #22
I doubt little Donald gives a damn about Fields. n/t Yonnie3 Dec 2018 #23
Oh, but the lizard base would canonize him if he did! nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2018 #24
Chump can only pardon Federal convictions... ADX Dec 2018 #36
I responded to a post re federal charges. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2018 #41
Yeah, I get that... ADX Dec 2018 #46
Good irisblue Dec 2018 #15
Self defense is a pretty weak plea JohnnyRingo Dec 2018 #16
Took a while to get the trial started but the actual sdfernando Dec 2018 #20
Self defense? PatrickforO Dec 2018 #19
...but some are good people... jpak Dec 2018 #21
So.... gay texan Dec 2018 #25
He needs to be made an example of...show the neo Nazis what will happen when they "play" Nazi. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #26
Maybe Trump will pardon him. blueinredohio Dec 2018 #27
It would not surprise me if he did. nt cstanleytech Dec 2018 #29
Trump can't pardon state offenses. 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #30
He can't... ADX Dec 2018 #37
Hope this fuck enjoys prison. 47of74 Dec 2018 #28
He probably will. forgotmylogin Dec 2018 #43
August 19, 2017 Bellingham Washington spike jones Dec 2018 #31
I agree. SergeStorms Dec 2018 #34
Lock this racist up Gothmog Dec 2018 #32
Justice for Heather... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #33
He should've faced death penalty Devil Child Dec 2018 #38
He's facing a long sentence. That's good enough. I'm no fan of the death penalty. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #45
Swinging from the gallows is my preferred outcome Devil Child Dec 2018 #57
This asshole tried to claim self defense Gothmog Dec 2018 #40
RIP Heather Heyer. You will be missed. ffr Dec 2018 #42
yes oldlibdem Dec 2018 #48
..But some, are good people.... jpak Dec 2018 #44
I just hope someday he sings.... oldlibdem Dec 2018 #47
Can Governors give pardons at the state level? Talitha Dec 2018 #50
The Governor of Virginia isn't going to pardon him. Big political mistake. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2018 #55
Trump Liberalhammer Dec 2018 #51
Should read: Trump supporter convicted of first-degree murder. John Fante Dec 2018 #52
Wow, there are like real people who seriously defend him saying it's self-defense xor Dec 2018 #53
I've never seen comments on freep that sound like the words Progressive Jones Dec 2018 #56
That is a valid point xor Dec 2018 #59
the answere to your question is.... oldlibdem Dec 2018 #60

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
2. "... jury rejected arguments that James Alex Fields Jr. acted in self-defense..."
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:26 PM
Dec 2018

He tried to argue self-defense?

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
11. If you've got nothing better to go with, than that's what you go with.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:45 PM
Dec 2018

His lawyers have to make *some* sort of argument, and hope that there's one racist asshole on the jury. Apparently not this time. (sad trombone plays)

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
12. He claimed the protesters made him fear for hs safety.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:48 PM
Dec 2018

Accelerated out of panic (HIS claim, not mine).

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
4. Some Public Defenders
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

are going to make a career of appealing this for decades.

Glad they came up with the verdict they did. Anything less would have been a threat to future public safety.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
17. These kind of appeals don't go far or take long.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:21 PM
Dec 2018

It's not like the courts would have to study all the evidence anew to decide if he acted in self defense. Unless there's new evidence, which there isn't, the ruling will stand. Perhaps he can argue insanity, but that doesn't work well in conservative states.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
35. Meh. That's fine.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:41 PM
Dec 2018

The evidence against him is so overwhelming that those appeals will go nowhere. That's why the jury only needed to deliberate for 7 hours.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
13. Little red pill is gone.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:49 PM
Dec 2018

Now his mother can age quietly and without fear.

I hope the victims family feel justice, it's not enough but justice is a real thing.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
46. Yeah, I get that...
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:02 AM
Dec 2018

...but even if he's convicted Federally and subsequently pardoned, he'll still remain imprisoned on the state charges.

I meant no offense, sorry if you took any.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
16. Self defense is a pretty weak plea
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:13 PM
Dec 2018

He was in his car, able to go in any other direction to remove himself from any perceived danger. Instead he chose to rum people down.

I'm surprised it took this long to convict and sure wouldn't want to be him at sentencing. He has no reason to expect mercy.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
19. Self defense?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:38 PM
Dec 2018

The guy rammed a car at high speed through a crowd of innocent people.

He belongs in a cage for the rest of his life!

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
26. He needs to be made an example of...show the neo Nazis what will happen when they "play" Nazi.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:57 PM
Dec 2018

Too bad this will be lost in all the other news of the day.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
37. He can't...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:45 PM
Dec 2018

...Chump can only grant pardons for convictions of Federal crimes, not charges brought by states...

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
31. August 19, 2017 Bellingham Washington
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 10:07 PM
Dec 2018

8-19-2017.
“City officials on Friday removed signs identifying Pickett Bridge at Prospect and Dupont streets, as well as directional signs leading to The Pickett House. The bridge was named after the Confederate General George Pickett. Officials said the move was in light of last Saturday’s violent clash in Charlottesville, Va. between a group identified as white supremacists and counter-protesters.”

December 7, 2018. Perhaps it is time for a new bridge name. HEATHER HEYER MEMORIAL BRIDGE

SergeStorms

(19,200 posts)
33. Justice for Heather...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:12 PM
Dec 2018

not that it helps her, but to her family and friends this is welcome justice. There's no such thing as "closure", but I hope this helps heal some of the emotional wounds they've suffered.

The crying, baby-ass, white supremacist gets his just deserts.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
38. He should've faced death penalty
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:47 AM
Dec 2018

Only appropriate punishment for a right-wing domestic terrorist. May your future be eternally bleak Mr. Fields.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
57. Swinging from the gallows is my preferred outcome
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:34 PM
Dec 2018

I respect you not being a fan of the death penalty but I harbor no such reservations regarding capital punishment. To me, capital punishment is an appropriate sentence for acts of terrorism.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
40. This asshole tried to claim self defense
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 01:46 AM
Dec 2018

This idiot was dumb to take this case to trial on the basis of such a weak defense

oldlibdem

(330 posts)
47. I just hope someday he sings....
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

and gives up the goods on the other assholes that have committed nefarious acts that he has knowledge of.

Talitha

(6,584 posts)
50. Can Governors give pardons at the state level?
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:05 AM
Dec 2018

I know Rump can only grant pardons at the Federal level, but am wondering if someone at the State level can also grant pardons.

xor

(1,204 posts)
53. Wow, there are like real people who seriously defend him saying it's self-defense
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 04:04 AM
Dec 2018

I thought that was the realm of the /pol trolls and other such alt-righters, but I'm seeing that coming from the "normal" (used loosely) Trump cultists. Such as the ones on that freep site. I actually didn't expect to see that.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
56. I've never seen comments on freep that sound like the words
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 04:55 AM
Dec 2018

of normal people. That place is a radical right wing pig sty.

xor

(1,204 posts)
59. That is a valid point
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:38 PM
Dec 2018

but I was still expecting to see less of that pure sociopathic opinion on it. There was maybe three people who seem to have a normal response of being glad the guy who ran his car into a bunch of people was found guilty. They must purposely be ignoring the video that shows him gunning it as he sped up into a group people. They only post a single still photo of someone hitting his car as he's about to collide with a bunch of people at high speed. What is wrong with these people?

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