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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:35 PM Dec 2018

Trump administration not to blame for 'tragic' death of 7-year-old girl in Border Patrol custody...

Source: The Washington Post



Trump administration not to blame for ‘tragic’ death of 7-year-old girl in Border Patrol custody, White House says

By John Wagner and Nick Miroff December 14 at 12:42 PM

A White House spokesman on Friday called the death of a 7-year-old girl in Border Patrol custody a “tragic situation” but said the Trump administration is not to blame and called on Congress to “disincentivize” migrants from making long treks to the southern U.S. border.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Thursday that the girl from Guatemala died of dehydration and shock after she was taken into custody last week for crossing from Mexico into the United States illegally with her father and a large group of migrants along a remote span of New Mexico desert.

Asked by a reporter if the administration is “taking any responsibility for the girl’s death,” White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said: “Does the administration take responsibility for a parent taking a child on a trek through Mexico to get to this country? No.”

According to CBP records, the girl and her father were detained about 10 p.m. Dec. 6 south of Lordsburg, N.M., as part of a group of 163 people who approached U.S. agents to turn themselves in.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-says-administration-takes-no-responsibility-for-death-of-girl-in-border-control-custody/2018/12/14/1f00d34e-ffbb-11e8-83c0-b06139e540e5_story.html

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Trump administration not to blame for 'tragic' death of 7-year-old girl in Border Patrol custody... (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2018 OP
Yeah, well ... that's gonna depend on what shape she was in when she arrived in US hands mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #1
republicans don't do the "responsibility thing" Achilleaze Dec 2018 #2
Of course not. Solly Mack Dec 2018 #3
God did it. Turbineguy Dec 2018 #4
The Sadists Couldn't Bother to Give Them a Drink of Water dlk Dec 2018 #5
The optics must be pretty bad for them to make a public statement pecosbob Dec 2018 #6
How could they take a 7 year old into cutody and not give her an immediate medical check?! SunSeeker Dec 2018 #7
Seven-year-old girl who died at border did not receive medical care for 90 minutes Eugene Dec 2018 #8
Fuck them and the horse they rode in on Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #9
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Yeah, well ... that's gonna depend on what shape she was in when she arrived in US hands
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:40 PM
Dec 2018

And what was done to help her if she was in obvious dire straits at such time.

Just MHO.

Of course the WH will make it sound like she was 'already too far gone to help', but I'd definitely like to hear from some witnesses, put it like that.

Solly Mack

(90,787 posts)
3. Of course not.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:56 PM
Dec 2018

Why, when I detain people coming out of the desert, I never check for distress or offer food or water. Why would I need health professionals? It's not like I know people are trekking across the desert to reach the US. It's unheard of for that to happen. Why do I need to be humane? Who knew people coming out of the desert might need medical help? Who could possibly know that?

Besides, if they cared, they wouldn't do it. So you can't blame me for knowing they are coming and that they might need help!

It's not my job to do the right thing in a fucked up situation.

It's not my job to be compassionate. It's not my job to offer care even if I won't offer them citizenship.

It's the price they pay - not me. I'm completely innocent in all this.

I have no responsibility to do the humane thing because it's not my fault they are coming.

They are committing illegal acts and that makes them bad people and when bad things happen to bad people it's not my fault - even if I could prevent it. Even if I could help.

Can't blame me for bad things happening to bad people because bad people deserve bad things.

If a child is going hungry because their parents are drug addicts or homeless or they don't have a job or they are running for their lives, that's not my fault either.

Poor children should have picked better betters and they wouldn't be poor.

It's not my problem.



If you need reassurances that this is sarcasm - bless your heart.





dlk

(11,578 posts)
5. The Sadists Couldn't Bother to Give Them a Drink of Water
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 04:00 PM
Dec 2018

This is what happens when sociopaths are in charge.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
7. How could they take a 7 year old into cutody and not give her an immediate medical check?!
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 04:22 PM
Dec 2018

They picked her and her father up in the desert. They had to know they were in bad shape. Then they separate the two, further stressing the girl. She had to have already been running a fever and would have been obviously ill and hot to the touch. She should have been immediately hospitalized-- with her father to comfort her. To do nothing for her but throw her into confinement for 8 hours until she went into seizures is craven, heartless evil. At a minimum it is child neglect/abuse.

Since it resulted in death, it is murder/manslaughter.

Eugene

(61,949 posts)
8. Seven-year-old girl who died at border did not receive medical care for 90 minutes
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:00 PM
Dec 2018

Source: NBC News

Seven-year-old girl who died at border did not receive medical care for 90 minutes

The death of Jackeline Caal raises questions about the Border Patrol's procedures and the Trump administration's policy of delaying migrants at legal ports of entry.

Dec. 14, 2018 / 1:55 PM EST
By Julia Ainsley, Jacob Soboroff and Cal Perry

WASHINGTON — A 7-year-old Guatemalan girl who died in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection waited an hour and a half before receiving emergency medical care after showing symptoms, officials said Friday.

Jackeline Caal, whose name was confirmed by CBP Friday afternoon, was apprehended with her father after crossing the border illegally into New Mexico with her family and more than 160 other migrants. Medical personnel are not staffed in the remote area where they were held, known as Antelope Wells, the officials said.

Before the group left Antelope Wells by bus to be transferred to a border station, Caal's father reported that she was ill and vomiting. By the time she arrived at the border station an hour-and-a-half later, she was not breathing. She was revived twice by emergency workers and then transported by air to a hospital in El Paso, Texas, where she died of cardiac arrest with her father by her side.

Caal was severely dehydrated; however, officials say that migrants were given access to water at Antelope Wells.

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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/seven-year-old-girl-who-died-border-did-not-receive-n948071
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