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turbinetree

(27,551 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:03 PM Dec 2018

Graham: Campaign Finance Violations Have Never Been Used For Impeachment!

Source: Talking Points Memo

By David Taintor
December 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), a staunch supporter of President Trump, said Friday that Trump directing Michael Cohen to make hush-money payments could represent a campaign finance violation "in theory." But he cautioned Democrats against crying impeachment.


"Campaign finance violations have never been used to impeach anybody," Graham told Neil Cavuto on Fox News.

"If you think that this is worthy of impeachment in the House, go ahead," Graham said. "I think most Americans probably won't agree with you."

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/lindsey-graham-trump-impeachment-campaign-finance



Well asshole.....................Nixon had a slush fund from campaign funds, and you trying to bull shit about this, well, it's bull shit and a fucking lie.......... and you should be called out for this lie..................so fuck you......................... he got pardoned before he could be fucking indicted............................

https://www.nytimes.com/1974/12/09/archives/nixons-taped-remarks-onapparent-slush-fund-called-key-evidence-in.html

https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/04/politics/watergate-reform/index.html


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough.........................
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Graham: Campaign Finance Violations Have Never Been Used For Impeachment! (Original Post) turbinetree Dec 2018 OP
Yet he thought lying about consensual sex was reason for impeachment Sanity Claws Dec 2018 #1
I'm pretty sure that had never been grounds for impeachment before, either NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #5
It wasn't about the sex, it was about the lie MiniMe Dec 2018 #36
Graham is now corrupt. Corgigal Dec 2018 #2
He and Nunes certainly appear to be compromised. deurbano Dec 2018 #46
I think that's the correct analysis. Nunes cryptic late night trip to the WH in March 2017, mpcamb Dec 2018 #52
Well, there's a first time for everything, Ms Graham... KCDebbie Dec 2018 #3
STFU Iliyah Dec 2018 #4
Murder's never been used for impeachment either, but... bmpbmp Dec 2018 #6
You beat me to it! Mme. Defarge Dec 2018 #29
+1 Canoe52 Dec 2018 #42
Came here to say this. mahina Dec 2018 #44
No, but obstruction of justice has been htuttle Dec 2018 #7
Every time he opens his mouth I wonder what the Russians found on his computer. appleannie1943 Dec 2018 #8
exactly apcalc Dec 2018 #10
This 👆🏼👆🏼 UpInArms Dec 2018 #27
illegal porn? NurseJackie Dec 2018 #40
Neither has murder, you moron (Graham) hlthe2b Dec 2018 #9
Of Course, Lindsay. No Other President Has Been This Stupid Before. The_Counsel Dec 2018 #11
All of these guys are on the fence YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #12
Lindsay is leaning heavily on the law of small numbers here VMA131Marine Dec 2018 #13
Then amend the Constitution if you want to disallow it. cstanleytech Dec 2018 #14
But speaking ill of Congress in a loud voice has so there is precedent. Kaleva Dec 2018 #15
Is TREASON ok with you, too? That will be proven soon. Honestly I want mucifer Dec 2018 #16
Nobody's been impeached for treason before. mahina Dec 2018 #45
Agree with you 100%, Mucifer! ElementaryPenguin Dec 2018 #49
Give it a few weeks, Lindsey... GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #17
Mueller's not done yet Maeve Dec 2018 #18
Good news, Sen. Graham! Mueller has far more damaging charges awaiting Individual-1. LonePirate Dec 2018 #19
It may have made the difference between winning and losing William Seger Dec 2018 #20
Yeah, but covering up truth ain't just a campaign finance violation, and Hoyt Dec 2018 #21
Well, murder, bank robbery, espionage, almost every law hasn't been used for impeachment. tableturner Dec 2018 #22
But lying about sex has jpak Dec 2018 #23
So? BaronChocula Dec 2018 #24
There's a first time for everything! truthisfreedom Dec 2018 #25
That's interesting duforsure Dec 2018 #26
I'll settle for January 3rd and the incoming Speaker WhiteTara Dec 2018 #28
First time for everything.... louis-t Dec 2018 #30
Since only three previous presidents have been impeached or nearly impeached, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #31
Never get between Graham and a television camera Zorro Dec 2018 #32
I just posted this tweet. I think I'll post it again Jarqui Dec 2018 #33
Worth posting a 1000 times ... MFGsunny Dec 2018 #38
Yup, I was going to post the same clip LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #41
There's a first for everything Lindsey my good man, a first for everything The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #34
Graham Has His Own Problems With Russian Money In His Campaign DallasNE Dec 2018 #35
They're just li'l ol' process crimes, hear? (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #37
The kompramat is strong on this one. Hassler Dec 2018 #39
They may have kompromat on Graham too Apollyonus Dec 2018 #48
Probably photographic evidence kimbutgar Dec 2018 #53
Ha, they are the tip of a massive iceberg....they will pale in comparison to what's coming. nt SayItLoud Dec 2018 #43
By that logic, Apollyonus Dec 2018 #47
Murder has never been used for impeachment either Takket Dec 2018 #50
Depends wryter2000 Dec 2018 #51
Cheating in the election is one of the classic examples of "high crimes and misdemeanors" unblock Dec 2018 #54
You are SO correct on so many points..... MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #55
he has no say in it. Scruffy1 Dec 2018 #56
A campaign violation breaking the law a high crime or misdemeanor - shouldnt have to Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2018 #57

Sanity Claws

(22,413 posts)
1. Yet he thought lying about consensual sex was reason for impeachment
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:04 PM
Dec 2018

They are all a bunch of fuckers

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
5. I'm pretty sure that had never been grounds for impeachment before, either
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:05 PM
Dec 2018

almost certain of it

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
36. It wasn't about the sex, it was about the lie
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:55 PM
Dec 2018

And how much money did Ken Starr spend to come up with Bupkis?

deurbano

(2,986 posts)
46. He and Nunes certainly appear to be compromised.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

They go to such lengths to defend the indefensible.

mpcamb

(3,228 posts)
52. I think that's the correct analysis. Nunes cryptic late night trip to the WH in March 2017,
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:23 PM
Dec 2018

and Graham's shameless pandering (hiding I'm not sure what... pictures, Russians, recordings).
All of it smells like roadkill and the 2nd day.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
7. No, but obstruction of justice has been
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:06 PM
Dec 2018

And Trump has done that dozens of times in public.

And one of the charges in Andrew Johnson's impeachment trial was 'Bringing disgrace and ridicule to the presidency'.

I think we got that one covered, too.


appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
8. Every time he opens his mouth I wonder what the Russians found on his computer.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:07 PM
Dec 2018

That is when he turned on a dime and started building a protective wall around trump.

The_Counsel

(1,757 posts)
11. Of Course, Lindsay. No Other President Has Been This Stupid Before.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:14 PM
Dec 2018

Donald Trump truly IS a unique individual, isn't he...?

YessirAtsaFact

(2,113 posts)
12. All of these guys are on the fence
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:14 PM
Dec 2018

They will talk tough for now but they know that more serious charges are coming.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
13. Lindsay is leaning heavily on the law of small numbers here
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

There have only been two impeachments of US Presidents in US history and I'm pretty sure that there weren't any campaign finance laws in force when Andrew Johnson was President (not to mention that he became President as a result of Lincoln's assassination and did not run the election campaign).

That no President has been impeached on campaign finance violations is beside the point.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
14. Then amend the Constitution if you want to disallow it.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

You do remember what the Constitution is right? It's that thing you and the other Repugnants love to claim to follow like the sanctimonious sacks of shit that you are.

mucifer

(25,667 posts)
16. Is TREASON ok with you, too? That will be proven soon. Honestly I want
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

the impeachment about trump being a foreign agent more than election pay offs or grifting money to relatives and friends. But, I'll take what I can.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. Give it a few weeks, Lindsey...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:31 PM
Dec 2018

I’m sure more grounds for impeachment are soon to be forthcoming.

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
19. Good news, Sen. Graham! Mueller has far more damaging charges awaiting Individual-1.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018

And those charges may include a conspiracy against the United States itself. You don't need to worry your little head over "minor" felonies tied to just campaign finance violations.

William Seger

(12,443 posts)
20. It may have made the difference between winning and losing
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:34 PM
Dec 2018

Time for some new case law then, Lindsey. We can't go forward with the idea that if you're running for office, it's okay to pay hush money.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Yeah, but covering up truth ain't just a campaign finance violation, and
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

it’s not trump’s only criminal violation or unethical behavior.

Graham, you’re an example of what’s wrong with this country.

tableturner

(1,838 posts)
22. Well, murder, bank robbery, espionage, almost every law hasn't been used for impeachment.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:37 PM
Dec 2018

And all of them are more than worthy of an impeachment effort. You can recite an almost endless list of impeachment-worthy crimes that have not been used to impeach.

That was such a boneheaded argument by Graham!

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
24. So?
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

And no one named Donald has ever been impeached either... yet.

What's your point, Miss Thang?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. That's interesting
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:02 PM
Dec 2018

Since he and others took an oath of office to uphold the laws, and are ignoring them arrogantly and illegally now. That's a form of obstruction of justice.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
28. I'll settle for January 3rd and the incoming Speaker
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:03 PM
Dec 2018

Her Lioness, Nancy Pelosi; queen of the pack.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,536 posts)
31. Since only three previous presidents have been impeached or nearly impeached,
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:08 PM
Dec 2018

there are a whole lot of crimes that haven't yet been the subject of impeachment. If a president commits, for example, armed robbery, would Graham argue that he can't be impeached for that because no president has ever been impeached for armed robbery.

Zorro

(18,692 posts)
32. Never get between Graham and a television camera
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018

He'll run you over in a New York minute.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
38. Worth posting a 1000 times ...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:15 PM
Dec 2018

... the days when Lady Lindsay thought to JAGGGGG for a while.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
41. Yup, I was going to post the same clip
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:12 PM
Dec 2018

I want every news pundit to ask him that question whenever he is on the air.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
34. There's a first for everything Lindsey my good man, a first for everything
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:37 PM
Dec 2018

Especially now-a-days

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
35. Graham Has His Own Problems With Russian Money In His Campaign
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:41 PM
Dec 2018

So, of course, he is going to say nothing to see here. Russia probably pumped over $100 million into the 2016 campaign - all to support Republican candidates, either directly or indirectly. It was not a small time operation.

SayItLoud

(1,774 posts)
43. Ha, they are the tip of a massive iceberg....they will pale in comparison to what's coming. nt
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:53 PM
Dec 2018
 

Apollyonus

(812 posts)
47. By that logic,
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 04:28 PM
Dec 2018

Murder, Armed Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping or Burglary have never been used in an impeachment either.

F*cking cons

Takket

(23,715 posts)
50. Murder has never been used for impeachment either
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:05 PM
Dec 2018

so if a president kills someone should we just ignore it?

unblock

(56,198 posts)
54. Cheating in the election is one of the classic examples of "high crimes and misdemeanors"
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:25 PM
Dec 2018

The term is meant to cover crimes of office, not necessarily violations of law.

Abusing the privileges of office, misusing the powers of office, neglecting the duties of office, or improperly acquiring the office are all high crimes and misdemeanors *even if they're not violations of law*

Donnie's short political career has been little more than a running stream of high crimes and misdemeanors.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
55. You are SO correct on so many points.....
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:56 PM
Dec 2018

except - his political career has not been just a "little more than a running stream" - it's been a tsunami!

He needs to go - NOW!

Scruffy1

(3,533 posts)
56. he has no say in it.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:13 PM
Dec 2018

Only the house can impeach. The senate only votes to convict. personally, iI don't why this guy gets so much press. He is a totally owned useful idiot for some one.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,940 posts)
57. A campaign violation breaking the law a high crime or misdemeanor - shouldnt have to
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:12 PM
Dec 2018

spell it out for someone who is claiming to be a senator.

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