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Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:00 AM

New Yorkers Have a Constitutional Right to Nunchucks, Judge Rules

Source: NY Times

In the 1970s, the United States was in the middle of kung fu fever. A wave of martial arts movies washed onto American shores, making Bruce Lee an international superstar and “nunchucks” a household word.

Worried that young people inspired by the craze might use nunchucks to cause havoc, New York State lawmakers criminalized the weapon in 1974.

Not long after, a young man in suburban New Jersey began studying nunchucks, eventually developing a passion for them.

Four decades later, that formerly young man, James M. Maloney, now 60, was in court battling New York’s ban on the weapon — and winning.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/nyregion/nunchuks-ban-overturned-new-york.html



Interesting. Wonder if the NY ban on shurikens (throwing stars) will be overturned next...

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Reply New Yorkers Have a Constitutional Right to Nunchucks, Judge Rules (Original post)
Polybius Dec 2018 OP
ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #1
Polybius Dec 2018 #3
cab67 Dec 2018 #7
Polybius Dec 2018 #9
LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #10
cab67 Dec 2018 #18
X_Digger Dec 2018 #21
LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #22
sl8 Dec 2018 #23
Adrahil Dec 2018 #2
Turbineguy Dec 2018 #4
Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2018 #5
TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #6
Archae Dec 2018 #8
PoliticAverse Dec 2018 #11
robbob Dec 2018 #12
Codeine Dec 2018 #14
reACTIONary Dec 2018 #24
robbob Dec 2018 #25
JDC Dec 2018 #29
Polybius Dec 2018 #19
EarthFirst Dec 2018 #13
Kaleva Dec 2018 #15
Codeine Dec 2018 #16
winstars Dec 2018 #17
sakabatou Dec 2018 #20
CentralMass Dec 2018 #28
sakabatou Dec 2018 #30
CentralMass Dec 2018 #31
CentralMass Dec 2018 #26
Polybius Dec 2018 #32
flying rabbit Dec 2018 #27

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:01 AM

1. What Could Go Wrong?

Well, except for broken noses, and fingers, and so on. . .

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:02 AM

3. As a martial artist in the early 90's, everyone in my class just went to NJ and bought them

They have always been legal there.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:24 AM

7. Not sure that's true.

I attended high school in NJ. During driver's ed, a police officer gave us a presentation, mostly about drinking and driving. He said that it was legal to purchase nunchucks in NJ, but not to possess them. ("Keep them in your trunk so we don't see them during a pull-over" was the officer's advice. I've never had nunchucks, so it's never been a problem for me.)

This was in 1984. I don't know if the officer was accurate or not, but that's what he said.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:41 AM

9. I was just talking about purchasing them, not carrying them

I seen metal nunchucks in a NJ mall a few years ago.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:46 AM

10. Purchase but not possess would not make sense. Purchase but not carry in public might.

 

Purchasing is acquiring possession, so the distinction would be a moot point if it becomes a crime the second you complete the transaction.

What I wonder if this will require nun chuck swinging conversations akin to the man spreading conversations (it's really the exact same conversation...).

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Response to LakeSuperiorView (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:13 PM

18. the officer himself said he didn't understand the purchase but not possess bit.

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Response to LakeSuperiorView (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 08:17 PM

21. A similar situation existed (exists?) re switchblades / gravity knives.

Illegal to possess, legal to purchase.

You'll see them for sale at knife shows in states where possession is illegal.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 08:27 PM

22. You are also able to find illegal drugs for sale in every city.

 

If the act of purchasing something leads to a criminal act as soon as the transaction is completed, there is is no logical distinction between the two.



The laws of most locations, being patchwork in continual process, are not required to agree with each other and make sense.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:23 PM

23. But either the seller or buyer is in posession at any given time.

It seems odd that law enforcement or even the show proprietors would tolerate the practice.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:01 AM

2. Always thought it was weird that some places banned them. NT

 

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:05 AM

4. They're great for

tenderizing abalone!

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:07 AM

5. That's kind of dumb they were ever banned.

How many people have died from being attacked with nunchucks in US? Probably none. Yeah, they use them in katas at the karate dojo my family goes to over here in Maine.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:19 AM

6. From the Wiki article...

Nunchaku is often the first weapon wielded by a student, to teach self-restraint and posture, as the weapon is liable to hit the wielder more than the opponent if not used properly.


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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:30 AM

8. Which is what would happen if I had tried to use them.

*CONK*



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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:32 AM

11. 'making Bruce Lee an international superstar and "nunchucks" a household word.'

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:18 PM

12. That's insane!

Imagine the precision needed to not only HIT the ball, but hit it on line at the target! Not to mention the spinning and high kicks! Remarkable!

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Response to robbob (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:14 PM

14. That's CGI.

 

It was made about ten years ago for a viral ad campaign.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bruce-lee-ping-pong/

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Response to Codeine (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:54 PM

24. Dang....

.... now you tell me! I was seriously fooled !

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Response to Codeine (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:59 PM

25. Aww...

Too good to be true!

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Response to Codeine (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:02 PM

29. Thanks. I was just about to post no way that is real. Awesome none the less

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 05:36 PM

19. I remember that video

Not really him, but impressive.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:24 PM

13. Nunchucks & cannabis! What a time to be a New York State resident! nt

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:19 PM

15. It's now legal to do this in New York

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:26 PM

16. I actually know that guy.

 

He now has a thriving YouTube channel doing far less stupid content.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 01:34 PM

17. Everybody (in NY?) was Kung Fu Fighting!!!

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 06:30 PM

20. I'll keep my bo staff, TYVM

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:21 PM

28. ..

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:12 PM

30. That's nice, but I only have the regular wood one

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:17 PM

31. +1

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:05 PM

26. In MA i had "rubber chucks", for practice and a real wooden set.

The rubber chucks were much less painful when you messed up.

I think that they were illegal in MA.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 09:48 AM

32. We had rubber ones at our karate in the early 90's in NYC

Wonder if they were still illegal then.

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Response to Polybius (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:06 PM

27. I'm cool with Bo staffs but,

I have all your equipment in my locker. You should probably come get it cause I can't fit my nunchucks in there anymore.

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