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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:32 PM Jan 2019

White House Mulls Jim Webb, Ex-Democratic Senator, as Next Defense Secretary

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering Jim Webb, a former Democratic senator and Reagan-era secretary of the Navy, to be the next defense secretary, according to three officials, potentially bypassing more hawkish Republicans whose names have been floated to replace Jim Mattis.

Mr. Webb, an outspoken opponent of the Iraq war, is being considered as President Trump seeks to carry out campaign promises to withdraw American troops from Syria and Afghanistan.

Those two decisions prompted Mr. Mattis to resign late last month, putting the deputy defense secretary, Patrick M. Shanahan, a former Boeing executive, in the top role in an acting capacity.

Representatives for Vice President Mike Pence and Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, have reached out to Mr. Webb, one of the three officials said. Separately, a senior Defense Department official confirmed that Mr. Webb’s name had been circulating at the White House. Those two and the third official all spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal discussions.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/us/politics/jim-webb-defense-secretary.html



Jim Webb may not be the kind of Democrat people like, but if you consider his confrontation with GWB, he's also not the kind of suck-up that Trump will demand.
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White House Mulls Jim Webb, Ex-Democratic Senator, as Next Defense Secretary (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2019 OP
Jim Web wouldn't be caught within 1,000 yards of this fucking misadministration n/t maxrandb Jan 2019 #1
I believe that is the correct answer. Nt BootinUp Jan 2019 #7
and Condi Rice is going to be the next coach of the Cleveland Browns n/t maxrandb Jan 2019 #2
Considering the number of wins they had back in 2017 that might actually be an improvement :P lol cstanleytech Jan 2019 #11
Sometimes, the answer is to move away to a place that you NCjack Jan 2019 #15
This was the first year in a long time that I could wear my Browns gear with pride maxrandb Jan 2019 #16
Well said. The Armageddon lobby will nix his nomination before Cheeto even announces it. sandensea Jan 2019 #3
I can't see Webb taking the job, unless he feels duty-bound to do so like Mattis did... Dennis Donovan Jan 2019 #4
It is possible that people in the Pentagon will ask him to take the job. n/t FSogol Jan 2019 #10
I'd be really surprised if he accepted the offer. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #5
You're right. And also that this is just an attempted olive branch to the Dems to fund his wall. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #20
He has a horrendous temper. Maybe he will punch Trump's lights out MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #6
That made me laugh. LisaM Jan 2019 #18
He almost did that to Bush Polybius Jan 2019 #23
I remember that! MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #24
He's also the same age (72) as Trump Polybius Jan 2019 #25
At the Naval Academy he had a legendary boxing match against Ollie North underpants Jan 2019 #27
That would be something IronLionZion Jan 2019 #8
He'd be more qualified than the Boeing lobbyist Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #9
This is a surprise. I doubt he would accept the position. Mrs. Overall Jan 2019 #12
Ex-Democratic, or Ex-Senator? lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #13
Hilarious. "The Administration is considering..." TrollBuster9090 Jan 2019 #14
Webb's kind of a jerk, but I doubt he'd take this job. BlueStater Jan 2019 #17
Stumpy would have a liberal to blame for all of its military foul ups Maxheader Jan 2019 #19
He would be a good choice to oversee the troop withdrawals from both countries madville Jan 2019 #21
This would be an excellent decision Polybius Jan 2019 #22
Not going to happen. I see Maggie Haberman is associated with this story, and that brings its still_one Jan 2019 #26
After all that the repubs railed and wailed against him as Senator? keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #28
Webb's a guy with absolutely no appetite for bullshit. I don't see him kissing trump ass in their NBachers Jan 2019 #29
Webb is disappointing. SCRUBDASHRUB Jan 2019 #30
Doubt he'd accept but if he did, I'd be comfortable with him being Sec. of Defense. Kaleva Jan 2019 #31
Why should he take it? nitpicker Jan 2019 #32

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
11. Considering the number of wins they had back in 2017 that might actually be an improvement :P lol
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jan 2019

Sorry, could not resist and yes I am originally from the Akron area

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
15. Sometimes, the answer is to move away to a place that you
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jan 2019

are not known and change your name. Then start all over as a virgin.

sandensea

(23,343 posts)
3. Well said. The Armageddon lobby will nix his nomination before Cheeto even announces it.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jan 2019

Just as well, really. In that nuthouse, how long could he have possibly lasted?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
5. I'd be really surprised if he accepted the offer.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:37 PM
Jan 2019

I think most people who actually have decent credentials have figured out that working for Trump is a nightmare and a career and reputation killer.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
20. You're right. And also that this is just an attempted olive branch to the Dems to fund his wall.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:55 PM
Jan 2019

Because it doesn't say he even WAS offered the position. So its more of a trial balloon olive branch.

Webb is not high on my list of favorite Democrats, but he's still a Democrat, and I think there'd be no way Trump would actually ever appoint him anyways. He'd get too much grief from Fox n Friends.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
18. That made me laugh.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:40 PM
Jan 2019

I do remember him in the debates (in the brief time that he ran), always looking so feisty.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
25. He's also the same age (72) as Trump
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:52 PM
Jan 2019

So it would be a fair fight by age. Of course, there's no way Trump would take the Marine, he's a legit tough guy. The Secret Service would step in and arrest him (can they do that to a Defense Secretary?).

underpants

(196,495 posts)
27. At the Naval Academy he had a legendary boxing match against Ollie North
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jan 2019

North won on points but from what I’ve read they really beat the crap out of each other.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
8. That would be something
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jan 2019

Clinton and Obama had Republican SecDefs.

Jim Webb is not the type of politician liberals or conservatives like, so he might be a good choice and is at least qualified. We all laughed at him for pandering to rural working class whites (without Trump's racism), but then we ended up with Trump anyway.

TrollBuster9090

(6,128 posts)
14. Hilarious. "The Administration is considering..."
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jan 2019
Of course, that doesn't mean anybody actually ASKED him. You'd normally assume that with any other Administration. But with this crackpot clown show, a story like that means Trump just woke up at 3:am, blew a statement out his ass, and then looked to see if Fox News picked it up.


Webb has tried to build a reputation as a 'third way,' 'blue dog' Democrat. But that doesn't mean he's stupid enough to let Trump put the Captain's hat on him just as the smoke stacks of the Titanic are disappearing below the water.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
17. Webb's kind of a jerk, but I doubt he'd take this job.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 06:47 PM
Jan 2019

What on earth would there be for him to gain in it? He's 72, in the twilight of his career, and I doubt he'd want to tarnish a reputation he's built his entire life by working for Trump.

madville

(7,847 posts)
21. He would be a good choice to oversee the troop withdrawals from both countries
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 08:31 PM
Jan 2019

This is probably the one thing I agree with Trump on, bring them all home.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
26. Not going to happen. I see Maggie Haberman is associated with this story, and that brings its
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jan 2019

validity into question as far as I am concerned

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
28. After all that the repubs railed and wailed against him as Senator?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:12 AM
Jan 2019

After all that the repubs railed and wailed against him as Senator?

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
29. Webb's a guy with absolutely no appetite for bullshit. I don't see him kissing trump ass in their
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:52 AM
Jan 2019

ass-kissing seminars.

SCRUBDASHRUB

(7,258 posts)
30. Webb is disappointing.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 01:37 AM
Jan 2019

On March 4, 2016, Webb stated that he would not vote for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, but he declined to rule out voting for Donald Trump.[87]

From Wikipedia.

Also I've been looking at his Twitter feed and he's done some talks at the Federalist society. I'm not so sure he wouldn't accept the position. I'm very disappointed in him.

Politico also has the article on its website.


nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
32. Why should he take it?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 04:19 AM
Jan 2019

It appears to me that being a junior Senator didn't give him enough power-er, satisfaction- so he declined to run in 2012.

Similarly, being a SECDEF under HIM means taking all the blame and having none of the usual power.

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