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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:40 AM Jan 2019

First lady Melania flies to Florida on government jet after Trump postpones Speaker Nancy Pelosi's

Source: CNBC

First Lady Melania Trump flew to Florida on a government jet Thursday for a weekend vacation, hours after President Donald Trump dramatically postponed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's trip with other members of Congress to visit U.S. troops in Afghanistan, NBC confirmed, citing a law enforcement source.

President Trump cited the ongoing government shutdown as his reason for postponing Pelosi's travel plans, shortly before she and her team were scheduled to depart on a military plane.

While Pelosi was practically grounded by Trump's actions, the president's wife headed to Joint Base Andrews for her own trip on a military aircraft, NBC said.
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Trump's letter, which was made public in a tweet by White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, did not mention Pelosi's call for him to postpone the State of the Union address, which the president has not otherwise commented on. But his letter was seen as a retaliation for her suggestion.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/17/trump-postpones-pelosis-overseas-trip-because-of-shutdown.html



Lawrence O'Donnell said tonight the jet Melania flew is identical to the jet Pelosi would have flown.
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First lady Melania flies to Florida on government jet after Trump postpones Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (Original Post) SunSeeker Jan 2019 OP
well she can always go back to her old job if the president loses federal funding nt msongs Jan 2019 #1
She aged out of that Scarsdale Jan 2019 #23
Sounds like a Trump abusing power but thats nothing new. cstanleytech Jan 2019 #2
He also Valerie Plamed Pelosi by disclosing her trip to a war zone--a national security secret. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #3
Thats why I think Pelosi should invite Trump to do the state of the union address before the House. cstanleytech Jan 2019 #5
Not gonna happen. She's not giving him that platform. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #6
I suspect though whats going to happen is he will try to do a televised address from inside cstanleytech Jan 2019 #15
Yep, or Mitch will let him stage it from the Senate. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #16
Pelosi said after the #shutdown would be OK as I understand her memo riversedge Jan 2019 #34
I think Pelosi should invite him to give it Lady_Chat Jan 2019 #17
With air traffic control at a lower percentage of readiness, while the TSA has the Blue Flu.... moriah Jan 2019 #30
Doesn't she also need air traffic controllers for that?? Rhiannon12866 Jan 2019 #4
It flew out of Andrews AFB, like Pelosi would have, so no civilian ATC. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #7
But the air traffic controllers in Florida are civilians, I think nt More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #11
Almost all FAA civilian controllers. Corgigal Jan 2019 #12
There's also the issue with the airport they use in Florida Rhiannon12866 Jan 2019 #13
Yep. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #14
Flying to Mar-A-Lago is worth the taxpayers' money.. Flying to reassure NATO and visit troops in.. Cha Jan 2019 #8
Disgusting, isn't it? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #9
I hope the troops and military Cha Jan 2019 #10
I'm sure it's official business. SergeStorms Jan 2019 #20
How much is this Scarsdale Jan 2019 #24
The flight alone cost $35k. Then there is the Secret Service costs. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #46
Let's face it, Trump has met his major nemesis with Nancy P.& hates that a woman will be his demise. YOHABLO Jan 2019 #18
Was Melanie wearing her "I don't care, do you?" jacket? I'm so angry. Lady_Chat Jan 2019 #19
Maybe Melania wore her Trump Jet outfit... SunSeeker Jan 2019 #45
she is not the first lady .... she is the first escort trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #21
I love That Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #29
First Whore. nt akraven Jan 2019 #38
well, i didn't wanna use a bad word. everyone knows what "An Escort" is .... trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #41
and then there were these trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #42
Yeah............ definite plant (who else would want him?) akraven Jan 2019 #50
LOL! I'm Alaskan. akraven Jan 2019 #43
i didn't want to get in trouble ..... trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #48
LOL! Nor do I, except when I deliberately cause it. akraven Jan 2019 #49
republican "billionaires" sucking at the public tit Achilleaze Jan 2019 #22
K&R ck4829 Jan 2019 #25
Wow. Went to bed thinking "How could they screw THIS up?" underpants Jan 2019 #26
Trump loves nothing more than spending other peoples money Uben Jan 2019 #27
The Last Word: Melania Trump vacations using gov't plane as Trump blocks Pelosi's flight riversedge Jan 2019 #28
I wonder where Ivanka, Beavis and Butthead are? Scarsdale Jan 2019 #31
and ... back to DC Yonnie3 Jan 2019 #32
Or the plane took her there and then returned - karynnj Jan 2019 #36
Normally they only use that ID when she is on board. Yonnie3 Jan 2019 #37
Thanks - did not know that karynnj Jan 2019 #39
The press thinks she is in Florida Yonnie3 Jan 2019 #47
They need to be stripped of perks... noneof_theabove Jan 2019 #33
Strange time for her to fly to Florida - Doesn't Barron have school? nt karynnj Jan 2019 #35
She's only going for the weekend. That's worth a $35k flight on the taxpayers, right? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #44
Enjoy it while it lasts! truthisfreedom Jan 2019 #40
"Laws are for the little people" thegoose Jan 2019 #51
I rarely Delphinus Jan 2019 #52

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. She aged out of that
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:24 AM
Jan 2019

just before she latched onto tRump. Her friend said she was broke, and thinking of returning to Slutvania.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
3. He also Valerie Plamed Pelosi by disclosing her trip to a war zone--a national security secret.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:54 AM
Jan 2019

Now she can't go even if she could take commercial flights for the trip, her plans have been blown.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
5. Thats why I think Pelosi should invite Trump to do the state of the union address before the House.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:57 AM
Jan 2019

Of course with a few stipulations and they would be that only Pelosi and a few other Democrats would be there and right in the front row with the Democrats should be seated all the women that accused Trump of assault as well as those that accused Kavanaugh.
After all if its good enough for President Perv to do then its good enough to have it done to him.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
6. Not gonna happen. She's not giving him that platform.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:03 AM
Jan 2019

And Kavanaugh's accusers don't want to be anywhere near him.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
15. I suspect though whats going to happen is he will try to do a televised address from inside
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:11 AM
Jan 2019

the White House because from the news reports his goal is to try and get the public to blame the Democrats for the shutdown.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. Yep, or Mitch will let him stage it from the Senate.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:18 AM
Jan 2019

Because Mitch is a now a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump organization.

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
17. I think Pelosi should invite him to give it
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:37 AM
Jan 2019

in his bathroom, sitting on his gold toilet, since he is so full of it.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
30. With air traffic control at a lower percentage of readiness, while the TSA has the Blue Flu....
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:48 AM
Jan 2019

.... AND other security measures not being at proper readiness....

I don't think it's the time to put the majority of our leaders in the same building at a planned time.

Not trying to sound too tinfoil-hatted and all, just I've read too many books with an attempted decapitation strike as a plot device. And this is not exactly the administration I'd trust to pick the best "designated survivors".

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. It flew out of Andrews AFB, like Pelosi would have, so no civilian ATC.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:09 AM
Jan 2019

I believe all military, including military Air Traffic Controllers, are getting paid during the Trump shutdown, except for the Coast Guard.

But the Secret Service is not getting paid, and Melania took a bunch for security with her to go to Mar-a-lago.

The military would have provided security for Pelosi on her trip to Afghanistan, so Pelosi would not have used government workers working without pay.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
12. Almost all FAA civilian controllers.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:24 AM
Jan 2019

Airspace ten miles around the airport is tower, the rest of the trip is radar. None of these professionals are being paid.

Rhiannon12866

(205,117 posts)
13. There's also the issue with the airport they use in Florida
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:50 AM
Jan 2019

Taxpayers are subsidizing them for the revenue they lose when they're closed to normal traffic. That was a big story when it first broke, only to be overshadowed on a daily basis by so many that are much worse. Thanks for the explanation, the obvious entitlement and disregard for anyone else totally boggles the mind...

Cha

(297,102 posts)
8. Flying to Mar-A-Lago is worth the taxpayers' money.. Flying to reassure NATO and visit troops in..
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:12 AM
Jan 2019


I can't wait until that evil fucking, traitorous trash is gone.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
20. I'm sure it's official business.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:39 AM
Jan 2019

Her "Be Best" campaign has been an unparalleled success, and she probably needs a brief respite from her whirlwind tour dates.


Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
24. How much is this
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:29 AM
Jan 2019

weekend trip costing taxpayers? How many unpaid government workers would that money have fed? The workers who are in danger of losing their homes, cars, etc. must be upset about this.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
46. The flight alone cost $35k. Then there is the Secret Service costs.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jan 2019

But Melania doesn't mind spending other people's money.


 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
18. Let's face it, Trump has met his major nemesis with Nancy P.& hates that a woman will be his demise.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:46 AM
Jan 2019

Oh I can't wait.

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
19. Was Melanie wearing her "I don't care, do you?" jacket? I'm so angry.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:48 AM
Jan 2019

She might as well, since neither she nor Trump care. I cannot believe it was ok for Trump to go to Iraq during the Shutdown, and not Pelosi going with a bipartisan team to Afghanistan, to see our soldiers. Not to mention Pelosi's trip being announced ahead of time and asked to go on a commercial flight, knowing how dangerous that could be, while Melanie gets to use a government plane. Has anyone even asked Trump why it was ok for him during a Shutdown, and not Pelosi? I'm so angry!

trueblue2007

(17,203 posts)
41. well, i didn't wanna use a bad word. everyone knows what "An Escort" is ....
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:52 PM
Jan 2019

Urban Dictionary: escort
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=escortsexsex
Prostitute. For legal reasons, escort is used to describe the actions and services s/he does for a negotiated price. Usually higher in price than a hooker/street-walker/lady of ill morals.

A call girl? Dial M for Melania?





akraven

(1,975 posts)
50. Yeah............ definite plant (who else would want him?)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jan 2019

And HE has the fucking NERVE to go off on Clinton and Pelosi? What about his slut?

underpants

(182,736 posts)
26. Wow. Went to bed thinking "How could they screw THIS up?"
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 06:58 AM
Jan 2019

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Clustertrump

Uben

(7,719 posts)
27. Trump loves nothing more than spending other peoples money
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:05 AM
Jan 2019

The lying sycophant has made a living out of spending other people's money. It's what he does. He is such a failure at business. He doesn't pay employees and contractors, and revels in the fact he got one over on them! He is like a thief who steals from the elderly. He has no conscience. Nothing is his fault in his mind. So, the fact he currently has employees working without pay puts him in his "happy place". I don't think I know of a bigger piece of scum than Donald Trump.

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
28. The Last Word: Melania Trump vacations using gov't plane as Trump blocks Pelosi's flight
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:17 AM
Jan 2019


The Last Word
Melania Trump vacations using gov’t plane as Trump blocks Pelosi’s flight


https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/melania-trump-vacations-using-gov-t-plane-as-trump-blocks-pelosi-s-flight-1428048963855?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

NBC News reports Melania Trump flew to Florida on a U.S. military plane on the same day Pres. Trump blocked Speaker Pelosi from using a U.S. military plane to visit U.S. troops in Afghanistan as the shutdown fight continues. John Heilemann and Sam Stein join Lawrence O'Donnell on the Trump shutdown latest.Jan. 17, 2019

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
31. I wonder where Ivanka, Beavis and Butthead are?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:23 AM
Jan 2019

She is likely working on getting more patents for her "fashion line" The "boys are probably shooting innocent wild animals. All protected by the Secret Service agents.

Yonnie3

(17,427 posts)
32. and ... back to DC
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:58 AM
Jan 2019

If this is correct, did she go and get summoned back or maybe she left something down there during Christmas? An Adderall resupply mission? The Secret Service can't pay for their rooms and Rump isn't going to extend credit?



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karynnj

(59,501 posts)
36. Or the plane took her there and then returned -
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jan 2019

It is not clear that she and her ss retinue came back with the plane.

Yonnie3

(17,427 posts)
37. Normally they only use that ID when she is on board.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jan 2019

That's why I qualified my comment above. It could be a crew mistake.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
39. Thanks - did not know that
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jan 2019

It is strange that she flew down and almost immediately back. Almost as if Trump used her to make a point as he was withholding a plane from Pelosi. (Sort of you can do nothing - I can do anything I want)

Yonnie3

(17,427 posts)
47. The press thinks she is in Florida
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jan 2019

They are reporting that the WH says she and Baron planned a long weekend with MLK Jr. day coming. Looks like the ID wasn't changed as usual.

However, I don't see any mentions of actually seeing her or photos of her arrival.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
35. Strange time for her to fly to Florida - Doesn't Barron have school? nt
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jan 2019

Obviously -- the bigger issue is she is allowed to fly though she does NOTHING for the government - while Pelosi is not allowed to.

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
52. I rarely
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jan 2019

have NPR news on, but today I heard it - they mentioned Speaker Pelosi having to cancel plans due to the unsafe situation of him revealing plans, therefore could not fly commercially, but did NOT mention his wife going down on the same kind of government-funded plane.

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