White House tries to go around Pelosi for State of Union

[neohippie]

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Source: Fox News Tweet

SCOOP: @WhiteHouse has sent a letter to the Sergeant-At-Arms, asking to schedule a walk-through for the SOTU address. SAA cancelled a walk-through last week at the request of @SpeakerPelosi . @realDonaldTrump still plans to be at the Capitol on Jan 29 for the speech

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The President appears to be trying to go around Pelosi to hold State of Union at Capitol

This should get interesting

[kimbutgar]

1. She should turn off the lights and lock the doors of the Congress.

Or adjourn early that day.

[Traildogbob]

5. Got an idea.

If she wants to keep him away from the chambers, all Dems should give up their seats and invite dreamers, African Americans that had voting rights stolen, pink hat women, LGBT, and high school shooting survivors, rape and sexual assault victims. Trump et. al invited his peeps for last SOTU. He will want no part of sharing a room with THOSE people. Ooooh!

[onetexan]

17. Let them boo the idiot to no end, to the point he's so embarrassed he'll leave on his own

LOL. I do think, however, if in fact this horrid man does manage to get around Nancy, that all Dems and any real patriots (including the GOP congress members) should boycott the event so he will be denied an audience. That is the end goal, isn't it?

[Traildogbob]

33. Agree

They will fill the seats with all Fox asses, current and past, with ANDY Coulter, Rusty Limpballs and Alex Jones. Hannity will sit behind trump in Speaker Pelosi's seat and a special wide angle lens to fit his head and trump's ass in one screen shot.
Will the hell ever end, and get corrected?

[George II]

18. Didn't Darryl Issa do that to John Lewis a couple of years ago at a hearing?

[Grasswire2]

2. oboy

This could be the Emperor's declaration of rule.

Get the cameras.

Gonna be dramatic!

Will he wear a crown?

[Texin]

11. Yup. That was my first thought. He's just going to strongarm his way onto that floor.

What's he plan to do? Issue a proclamation that he is the Supreme Ruler of (former) United States?

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. MAGA hat wearers would love it if he did that and then started arresting and executing us.

[UpInArms]

3. Read it from the TelePrompTer from the oval office

You ratfucking clown

(Addressed not to the OP, but to the ratfucking clown)

[mahina]

4. Consider the source, Fox 'news'. Typical. Attempt to build support

And noise

[unblock]

6. seems more likely he's expecting the situation to be resolved by then, or at least by some point.

even ignoring that the *house* sergeant-at-arms doesn't answer to the president, how would a state of the union speech work behind pelosi's back?

he can't have use of the house chambers over pelosi's objections.

even if he could get use of the house chambers, he certainly can't get a session of the house, or a joint session of congress, without pelosi's ok.

best he can really do it give it to the senate only in the senate chambers, or submit it in writing and deliver the speech somewhere else. from the oval office or at one of his rallies or whatever.


unless he figures the situation will be resolved soon and he'll give the address to a joint session of congress, as usual.

of course, he no doubt thinks the situation will be resolved because pelosi will just cave, even though she has every reason not to....

[NurseJackie]

10. Could he be thinking of calling a "Special Session"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_session

United States

In the United States of America, Article II, Section 3 of the United States Constitution gives the President of the United States the power to "on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses or either of them." [1]

This power exists for urgent or extraordinary situations that require congressional action when Congress is adjourned. Presidents have exercised this power 46 times to recall only the Senate and 28 times to recall both Chambers of Congress, most recently by Harry Truman in 1948.[2]

The Senate itself differentiates between "extraordinary sessions" called by the Presidential proclamation and "special sessions" that merely indicate a session not normally scheduled.[3] The term "session" can refer to either the formal start and end of a Congressional session or the daily sessions of the chambers of Congress.[4] Thus a formal "special session" will only happen when Congress has adjourned sine die and is not simply in recess (in other words Congress may or may not already be in an official session, but in recess, when convened).[4]

[Grasswire2]

25. so the House will have to remain in session..

...until this urge of his fades?

[NurseJackie]

29. I don't know. I'm hoping someone who understands the Constitution better than I do...

... will be able to explain it.

[greymattermom]

34. Good

let the hearings start. Get his tax returns and let's go!

[unblock]

28. not sure, but i don't think that works for this purpose.

he can force the house to be "in session", but he can't invite himself over, and he can't dictate what the house's order of business is.

alternatively, pelosi can go along with it, but just before the sergeant-at-arms introduces the president to the joint session of congress, pelosi can call for a quick vote on a house bill or two. then, on national tv, the house is seen voting in favor of the exact bill the previous senate already passed.

really put republicans in a tough spot....

[ToxMarz]

35. Congress is already in session

So that wouldn't accomplish much, and calling a special session doesn't require they let him give a televised address to the nation from the floor.

[MosheFeingold]

7. If this doesn't work

He'll just move it to the Senate chambers.

He is setting Pelosi up to look petty, and he has the bully pulpit.

[pnwmom]

14. The Senate is big enough to hold 600 people? n/t

[MosheFeingold]

16. He'd make

The Democrats stand, I guess.

[MosheFeingold]

24. Looking at pictures

The desks are removable and there is a balcony. It would be a squeeze, but doable.

Trump would start off with "sorry for the tight space, but Nancy Pelosi is such a bitter person, she refused to let you have a proper seat. We need to fix Washington and end this kind of nonsensical petty bickering" (or whatever).

She'll end up looking like a petty child.

Which is stupid, because Trump IS the petty child.

But that will be the optics.

[mr_lebowski]

36. I suspect if it comes to that, House and Senate Dems will simply boycott ...

Let them have their all-GOP SOTU in the Senate.

[MosheFeingold]

32. 690 people

https://bookdome.com/architecture/National-Capitol/Senate-Chamber.html

[George II]

37. The presentation and frequency of the State of the Union is very loosely defined.....

....it isn't necessarily an annual address, and isn't even required to be an address.

Franklin D. Roosevelt had his read to the Congress in 1945 (I think he was in poor health and died a few months later). There have been only 95 in-person addresses.

Interesting history of the Address:

https://history.house.gov/Institution/SOTU/State-of-the-Union/

[duforsure]

8. She should then call for his resignation

[PeeJ52]

9. What the hell is the matter with this guy?

Can we have a do over? Please? He can have as many "speeches" as many times he wants from his office any times he wants. If he doesn't know the rules and how bills are written, amended, passed, and approved, then get another job. This is the United States of America government. We aren't playing The Apprentice.

[Texin]

13. He's expcting McConnell to have his back on this.

He might as well step in and bulldoze his way. The rethugs own this country now for all intents and purposes. The republic was finally drowned in the bathtub.

[Freethinker65]

12. Give it after descending from an escalator for dramatic effect

[George II]

15. The Sergeant-At-Arms works at the direction of the Speaker of the House. Good luck with that......

....Donald.

I wish all Democrats, including all Representatives and Senators, would start referring to him as "Donald"
(or even "Don" ) until he stops referring to our leaders as "Chuck" and "Nancy".

[RicROC]

27. the Don

Yes, let's start calling Trump, 'The Don', as in the 'head of the mob', which he is. Such an appropriate name.

[George II]

30. I'd agree, but I think he'd enjoy that one.

[CrispyQ]

38. He appears to really dislike Donald.

To me he will always be the Con.

[George II]

39. I loved it when Justin Trudeau called him "Donald" a couple of months ago:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1592522&playlistId=1.4246465&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=2&binPageNum=1

[Iliyah]

19. Road to dictatorship . . .

McTurtle is helping along with the GOPs.

[jgmiller]

20. The two most likely scenarios

1) He holds a rally somewhere and kind of reads his speech that he is constitutionally required to send to congress.

2) McConnell lets him make the speach from the senate chamber. I don't know if I've ever heard of a non-senator giving a speach from the chamber but I bet there isn't a rule against it.

Remember he does not have to deliver a speech, he just has to send a report to congress according to the constitution.

[msongs]

21. twitter is not a news source nt

[KY_EnviroGuy]

22. Speaker Pelosi is in charge of THIS House.

Just ban the press on that day....for reasons of security.

..............

[The Truth Is Here]

23. Sergeant At Arms should be ordered to arrest Mitch and Trump if they try to get into the House.

And detain them indefinitely.

[Grasswire2]

31. yeah, this is dangerous .

...and he would love to make it a spectacular confrontation.

[DonViejo]

40. Locking...

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