Wife of White House communications chief goes on anti-vaccine tirade
Source: Guardian
Former TV producer Darla Shine spreads conspiracy theories about measles outbreak on Twitter
Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington
@SabrinaSiddiqui
Wed 13 Feb 2019 21.31 EST First published on Wed 13 Feb 2019 19.53 EST
The wife of White House communications director Bill Shine on Wednesday went on an anti-vaccine tirade while spreading conspiracy theories about an outbreak of measles in the Pacific north-west.
In a series of tweets, Darla Shine lashed out against a CNN segment detailing the outbreak, which has seen more than 50 unvaccinated people contract measles in Washington state and Oregon.
Here we go LOL #measlesoutbreak on #CNN #Fake #Hysteria, Darla Shine tweeted. The entire Baby Boom population alive today had the #Measles as kids
Bring back our #ChildhoodDiseases they keep you healthy & fight cancer.
I had the #Measles #Mumps #ChickenPox as a child and so did every kid I knew, she went on to claim, adding: Sadly my kids had #MMR so they will never have the life long natural immunity I have. Come breathe on me!
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/13/darla-shine-vaccines-anti-vaxxer-measles
Eugene
(61,945 posts)This is a whole new dimension of crazy.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)RAAD2
(95 posts)Scum.
Psycho scum.
Measles kills and if it wasn't for whack jobs like Mrs. Shine, it would be completely gone.
Put her in a straight jacket in a rubber room where she belongs.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)Let's point out to her that getting smallpox likewise confers lifelong immunity to those who survive. And of course most of the survivors are badly scarred, but that's not important, is it? So let's bring back smallpox.
A side note: scarring from smallpox was so very common, that anyone who wasn't thusly scarred was automatically considered very, very attractive/beautiful/handsome. I'm someone of happily average looks. Put me back 200 years and I'd be uncommonly beautiful. Not sure I want to trade off no smallpox for that.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)just like everyone in the Trump gang
Dorian Gray
(13,501 posts)to be angry about involving the White House, but reading about this yesterday, I felt RAGE.
I think what triggered that reaction was the absolute idiocy surrounding her arguments and knowing that no matter what scientific evidence you shared, she wouldn't HEAR or LISTEN.
And it's that way with all the anti-vaxxers.
Yes, there are some people who can't be vaccinated. Talking to your doctor about that is important.
BUT, for Christ's sake, she's arguing for something that could KILL children. So I'm enraged.
F U Darla Shine.
As you said, DG, Shine's arguing for something that can kill. So much for the "pro-life" position.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Pro disease? That can be my only take away from her comments.
gademocrat7
(10,669 posts)Her ignorance is blinding.
samnsara
(17,635 posts)..see if she will be 'stronger' after shes had the infection.
underpants
(182,879 posts)Come on! Who doesn't want to see their kid being sick?
CousinIT
(9,257 posts)Bigredhunk
(1,351 posts)N/M
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)that those of us baby boomers who DID survive are just the ones who made it. I wish family members of those who died from those now preventable diseases would tell her their stories.
And also, Bitch, my surviving measles, chicken pox and mumps did not protect me from having breast cancer. Your ignorance is dangerous and deadly.
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demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,529 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)No one gets this bent out of shape over prevention of cancer or heart disease.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Why do we that are incensed at the Anti-vaccer woo need to show less emotion?
We tend to get emotional at public figures giving dangerous, conspiracy laden advice.
Perhaps I misunderstood your post.
Care to elaborate?
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csziggy
(34,137 posts)Vaccinations are extremely effective.
Your first sentence denies the "herd" or community effect:
That means even people who cant get vaccinated will have some protection from getting sick. And if a person does get sick, theres less chance of an outbreak because its harder for the disease to spread. Eventually, the disease becomes rare and sometimes, its wiped out altogether.
https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/work/protection/index.html
If natural immunity were more effective there would never have been a need for vaccinations, the plagues of the past would never have happened, and those of us who remember the real effects of polio, measles, and other diseases would not have those memories since they would not have happened:
Some individuals who are concerned about the safety of vaccines and their ingredients have begun to promote natural immunity over vaccine-induced immunity, but the only way to get natural immunity is through infection with the actual disease. This means that you have to get sicksometimes severely illto develop resistance.
Vaccines, on the other hand, cause a natural immune response in the body without causing illness. Vaccines are safe because the viruses or bacteria used in vaccines are dead or have been severely weakened. Our bodies recognize these weakened invaders and create antibodies to protect us against future infection. In this way, we trick our bodies into thinking weve already had the disease.
While natural immunity typically lasts longer, some vaccines produce longer-lasting immunity, such as HPV, tetanus (DTaP), Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), and pneumococcal.
Vaccines often protect against multiple strains of a disease, whereas infection only provides future protection against one strain. Influenza, HPV, Polio, and Pneumococcus are examples of vaccine-preventable diseases which have several strains.
Not all infections offer life-long immunity to even a single strain (i.e. pertussis).
https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/work/protection/index.html
Vaccines don't always work but they are MUCH more effective than "natural immunity" when exposed to the actual disease. Vaccines provide as much immunity without the risk of getting and spreading the diseases.
The chart on this page shows how well vaccines work - they have cut deaths from childhood diseases dramatically:
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/vaccine-benefits
The effectiveness is between 91% and 100% according to government statistics.
To add to all of that, some people CANNOT get vaccinations due to immune system problems. Un-vaccinated people that can carry and spread diseases are a particular danger to those with suppressed immune systems and to those too young to get vaccinated.
Go spread your anti-vaccer nonsense somewhere else, please.
lark
(23,155 posts)I had a 105 degree fever and my dad went and got tons of ice, put me in the tub then the ice. REally glad I don't remember that, maybe it's why I hate being cold so much?
My friend didn't even know she was pregnant, but when she started feeling sick she went to the dr., found out she had measles & was pregnant. Son was born deaf and had other neurological issues as well.
Evil anti-vaxxers want more disabled or dead babies?
okaawhatever
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Staph
(6,253 posts)so I had measles, mumps and chicken pox before the vaccines for them were widely available.
And I have endometrial cancer.