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Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)We made this possible.
arewenotdemo
(2,364 posts)Biggest mistake Obama has made in four years, IMO.
Hopefully it will give him pause before making any more neocon dreams a reality (Syria).
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)The Libyans just had an election & elected moderates not Islamic extremist. So, NO NO NO Obama did not cause this nor was it a mistake to do what he did for the Libyan people.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)This happened because of bad security and it was clearly a planned attack. Probably some small faction unrepresentitive of the Libyan protesters.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)What about the thousands of dead Libyans? What about those murdered with their hands tied behind their backs? What about all of those who were murdered by the revolutionaries for the sin of being black?
Who did they vote for?
Violence begets violence.
pampango
(24,692 posts)in power.
All dictators, certainly not just Gaddafi, use their security services and military to stay in power. Dictators don't have to worry about losing power through the ballot. All they have to worry about are coups and revolutions hence the reliance on force and violence.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)However, too often, the US has taken the position of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," which is rarely true. More often, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)
Not that facts matter.
arewenotdemo
(2,364 posts)Question was who was responsible for the attack.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Not the OP.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)arewenotdemo
(2,364 posts)you may just possibly want to reconsider your support for same.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)"A faction of revolutionaries (cough) that were/are allied with us, and that the US backed, has now attacked and killed the US Ambassador and support personnel?"
Yeah, can't say THAT now....
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)happened to any of the thousands of Americans living and working in Libya while Qadaffi was in power there.
Those Al Queda 'protesters' we used to topple Qadaffi weren't really on our side, but they knew a good opportunity when they saw it.
They've been slaughtering and torturing people since NATO disappeared, AND killing their fellow 'revolutionaries'.
I thought that NATO's role there was to protect civilians, but as soon as they murdered Qadaffi, the left the civilians to the barbarism of the 'protesters' they were helping to topple his regime.
We are told so many lies.
arewenotdemo
(2,364 posts)Al Qaeda activists.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)political purposes. No one knows who is responsible for these murders yet. But there will always be those who will use even tragedies like this, to further their political agendas.
We did use Al Queda in Libya during the so-called uprising. However there is still no way of knowing who did this or who was behind it, or if it was planned.
But four people are dead and it's a shame to see the attempts to use their deaths for political advantage.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Laughs all around.
Make me sick.
The only lies here are associating Benghazians and the Libyan protesters with "al-Queda."
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of so many innocents in Libya, the torture, the rapes, the hangings, all of which was cheered on while it was happening. Yes, that made me sick. And now, the murders of these Americans.
And another thing that makes me sick is your continued personal attacks on me which I have been far too tolerant of, as many have told me.
Don't you dare try to accuse me of ever laughing at the murders of human beings. My record on the slaughter of human beings no matter which side they are on, is and always has been crystal clear.
We had no business backing the fake uprising in Libya and I will never forgive MYSELF for initially supporting it.
At least I can admit when I am wrong.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)What a disgusting display.
It's not an attack if it's a fact. You think it's funny that this happened. And you repeat the falsehood that the protesters were Al-Qaeda.
Yet the real protesters came out and counter protested the terrorist acts.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)How dare you.
My meaning was clear and I will repeat it. It was a given that someone would attempt to blame Qadaffi supporters, DESPITE the reports that some of the guards were involved. With no proof of anything, this was the response that was more than predictable.
Thankfully I am informed, your ugly distortion of my comment has been noted and rather than alert on your extremely ugly personal attack, I will leave it for all to see.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)And you "LOL'd" about it.
I didn't distort anything. I just know what the word "this" means.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)FYI Libyan Security officials believe it was an islamist sect aligned with Ansar al-Sharia disproving the entire basis of the "funny."
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)this matter is settled.
I will consider any further attempts to communicate with me to be harassment.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)I do not take kindly to people slandering the Libyan people and making a mockery of them. It is a tragedy that is not "LOL" worthy or "funny" as you write in post #8.
KingSurvival
(2 posts)The spark for the protests in Libya and Egypt was an obscure movie made in the United States by a California filmmaker who calls Islam a "cancer." Video excerpts posted on YouTube depict Muhammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.
daleo
(21,317 posts)It might even be true.