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demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 12:31 PM Feb 2019

Colorado governor will sign bill aimed at bypassing electoral college

Source: The Hill

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) will sign a measure to award his state’s electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, moving a country-wide coalition one step closer to circumventing the electoral college.

In an interview Sunday, Polis called the electoral college an “undemocratic relic” of the nation’s past, one he wants to see relegated to the dustbin of history.

“I’ve long supported electing the president by who gets the most votes,” Polis told The Hill. “It’s a way to move towards direct election of the president.”

Colorado will become the 12th state to join the National Popular Vote interstate compact. Those 12 states and the District of Columbia, which has also passed a popular vote bill, account for 172 electoral votes, just under 98 shy of the 270 votes a presidential candidate needs to win the White House.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/431425-colorado-governor-will-sign-bill-aimed-at-bypassing-electoral-college

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Colorado governor will sign bill aimed at bypassing electoral college (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2019 OP
Unfortunately only blue states are participating in this groundloop Feb 2019 #1
When the tide turns against them the will follow suit. olegramps Feb 2019 #2
Hopefully enough states will join to get the additional 98 votes to elect a president onit2day Feb 2019 #12
I wonder how many other Democratic governors will follow suit. Maraya1969 Feb 2019 #3
Status here: pat_k Feb 2019 #6
High time this happens montanacowboy Feb 2019 #4
"One man, one vote." volstork Feb 2019 #10
OK, how about "One voter, one vote" ? Stonepounder Feb 2019 #13
Now yer talkin' volstork Feb 2019 #14
Another really positive aspect of this PatSeg Feb 2019 #5
And the candidates will go everywhere! California_Republic Feb 2019 #19
Exactly PatSeg Feb 2019 #24
But is it Constitutional? I do not know all the rules of the Electoral College. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #7
States can assign their electors kchamberlin25 Feb 2019 #9
Yes, but there is one really big BUT Massacure Feb 2019 #18
And yet another good reason to have this h2ebits Feb 2019 #8
YES ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #11
How could an article about a state's electoral votes not mention how many votes the state has? Demit Feb 2019 #15
I was just discussing this last night. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #16
"Senators from each state reflect that state's population" would take at least a C.A. Polybius Feb 2019 #20
I know this would take a C.A. and thought the same about BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #21
I can't see how there would be a workaround to each state having two Senators Polybius Feb 2019 #22
We need more of this... Lots more of this... nt. BlueIdaho Feb 2019 #17
and what if we lose the popular vote? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2019 #23
When has the EC benefited us where the popular vote didn't? ck4829 Apr 2019 #26
Kick ck4829 Apr 2019 #25
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
12. Hopefully enough states will join to get the additional 98 votes to elect a president
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:49 PM
Feb 2019

by popular vote

montanacowboy

(6,089 posts)
4. High time this happens
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:13 PM
Feb 2019

We must have direct elections for the President. One man, one vote. This old antiquity of voting for electors who will vote for the president - maybe good in the 1700's but hey, hello.

If we have one man, one vote, we will have Democratic presidents. The Republicans know this, that is the only way they can win is through the electoral college. It has to stop now.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
10. "One man, one vote."
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:45 PM
Feb 2019

Um, can we include women, too? We've been able to vote for 100 of the nation's 243 years.

PatSeg

(47,475 posts)
5. Another really positive aspect of this
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:42 PM
Feb 2019

is it will bring out more voters who are reluctant to vote for president, because they live in a red state or a blue state and they feel like their vote won't count.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
19. And the candidates will go everywhere!
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 09:51 PM
Feb 2019

If you live in a state that is locked For one party you almost never see a presidential candidate. They are always visiting the states that are in play

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
7. But is it Constitutional? I do not know all the rules of the Electoral College.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:20 PM
Feb 2019

But a state passing a law to circumvent part of the Constitution would likely be voided by the court, IMO.

Massacure

(7,523 posts)
18. Yes, but there is one really big BUT
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:31 PM
Feb 2019

The constitution specifically states, "No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State"

A state is clearly capable of assigning its electors to the winner of the national electoral vote; however, if they do that then they need to do that regardless of what other states do. If a state's law is written such that it assigns its electors to the winner of the national popular vote if and only if states representing 270 electoral votes do so, they are clearly participating in an "Agreement or Compact" and are just begging to get shot down in court.

h2ebits

(644 posts)
8. And yet another good reason to have this
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:23 PM
Feb 2019

The more states that sign on to this, the fewer "fly-over" states there will be because presidential candidates will have to visit ALL states in order to get the votes. At this time, candidates only visit states where they can pick up the most electoral votes and by-pass states with less electoral votes and/or states that are a "sure thing" because of gerrymandering.

I believe the National Popular Vote interstate compact started out as a bipartisan plan and has more recently been politicized by the Republican Party. Please don't help them in this effort. In fact, the National Popular Vote is all about the people of this Nation--each and every one of us--casting a vote that counts for president.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
11. YES
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:46 PM
Feb 2019

I have been advocating for this for precisely this reason - it makes every vote count, it makes votes in red and blue states count, it actually creates democracy and reasons to vote.

Yours is a great reason

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
15. How could an article about a state's electoral votes not mention how many votes the state has?
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 02:58 PM
Feb 2019

I know I could look it up myself but jeez. Seems a natural thing you would mention.

BigmanPigman

(51,603 posts)
16. I was just discussing this last night.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 05:58 PM
Feb 2019

A friend (she doesn't have the internet) said she just read that Hillary got 3 million more votes and how do we get rid of the electoral college. I didn't know that this route was a possibility. Yeah! Now we have to get the number of senators from each state reflect that state's population.

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
20. "Senators from each state reflect that state's population" would take at least a C.A.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

It would take at the very least a Constitutional Amendment. The number of Senators is set by the Constitution.

BigmanPigman

(51,603 posts)
21. I know this would take a C.A. and thought the same about
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

getting rid of the Electoral College. I didn't know that individual states could get around that one. As long as we have a ton of red state senators against any changes it won't happen, unless there is a way around that too. Is there one? What does it take to pass a C. A.?

Polybius

(15,423 posts)
22. I can't see how there would be a workaround to each state having two Senators
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 10:14 PM
Feb 2019

But I'm certainly open to hearing any opinions on this.

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