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Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:29 PM Mar 2019

Arizona man accused of killing his service dog, dumping it

Source: Associated Press

Updated 12:17 pm CST, Friday, March 1, 2019



SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) — Police in the Phoenix suburb of Scottsdale say a man is accused of killing his 4-year-old golden retriever service dog at his home and dumping the dog's body in a garbage can where it was found by family members.

Police say in a statement that 29-year-old Jacob Bushkin was arrested Thursday night on suspicion of killing a service animal and animal cruelty.

The statement says Bushkin declined to speak with investigators and that detectives arrested him at the office of his lawyer, Ryan Tait.

. . .

According to police, a necropsy found that the dog was stabbed more than 100 times and a veterinarian said the dog's throat had been cut.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Man-accused-of-killing-his-dog-dumping-body-in-13655407.php



From #######'s Facebook page, images of his betrayed Golden Retriever, before he destroyed it:

https://www.facebook.com/jbushkin
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Arizona man accused of killing his service dog, dumping it (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Mar 2019 #1
Hanging him sounds fitting for the crime!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #2
He looks ill & needs treatment rather than jail. If given service dog, prob has PTSD. It's hard. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #32
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #36
Yeah, that's how it looks to me PatSeg Mar 2019 #115
Guaranteed that 95% of the people BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #3
And I guarantee 100% of vegans have canine teeth n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #4
So do hippos BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #11
Plus I think Trump supporters might have teeth but its hard to tell for sure when they are covered cstanleytech Mar 2019 #106
Regardless of what teeth I have, I have a choice of whether to be a part of MLAA Mar 2019 #70
And? Devil Child Mar 2019 #6
yup... Javaman Mar 2019 #7
Are you saying that we shouldn't be upset over this? Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #8
Humans aren't predators in nature. BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #9
Our eyes are in front to judge the distance to our prey Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #10
And our ancestors were HUNTER gatherers TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #35
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #37
Repeating a bogus argument does not make it stronger. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #53
Say it enough times, it's bound to become true. Downtown Hound Mar 2019 #85
Since our closest relatives, chimps, also eat meat, you appear to be wrong muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #12
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #38
Third one I see. If that's all you got you got nothing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #54
Whatever you say Professor FrankBooth Mar 2019 #31
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #39
Ignored snort Mar 2019 #44
Nice trolling FrankBooth Mar 2019 #45
Sorry I'm making you so uncomfortable BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #49
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #52
Fifth post of this exact phrase in this thread. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #57
5 posts BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #59
5 identical bogus points add up to 0 except provocation. Please stop. You are hurting your cause.nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #62
things went south fast, didn't they? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2019 #112
I disagree with this conclusion of yours that humans kill only for pleasure...just because you ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #33
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #41
Fourth post of this exact phrase in this thread. Please explain how you are not trolling. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #56
I don't care what anyone in the past has done MLAA Mar 2019 #68
We all do. I have dogs and cats too, can't abide cruelty to any of them. Take care, nt. SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #84
I have come to learn animal cruelty is rampant in MLAA Mar 2019 #96
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Humans ARE predators in nature. Where'd you get that goofy idea? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #34
Internet Research Agency handbook FrankBooth Mar 2019 #40
Indeed, but poster joined 4 months ago. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #50
Yeah, better to just block this tool FrankBooth Mar 2019 #76
Single-issue polemicists like this are no better than trolls FrankBooth Mar 2019 #105
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #42
Yes but that has nothing to do with your point and is not a logical argument. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #46
My point is BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #51
Then make it instead of making uselessly provocative posts with bogus arguments. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #55
Please do not spam this forum muriel_volestrangler Mar 2019 #65
Please tell me how many large animals BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #71
We are proxy predators just like some agencies have proxy posters. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #72
Lol what BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #73
You can laugh at me anytime as an excuse for not actually thinking about what I wrote. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #75
I though about it. BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #77
Nope. Keep laughing. Your "whole thing"? Now you reveal it? After all those bogus posts? Now? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #82
Both killings are totally unnecessary. BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #83
Do you take any pharmaceutical drugs? OTC or prescription? MarvinGardens Mar 2019 #92
do you wear leather? Mosby Mar 2019 #80
No BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #81
Do you take antibiotics or use soaps/detergents? You are murdering animals. Literally millions. nt DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #87
I minimize my harm to others BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #93
if 95% of the people are the ones upset, what the hell happened to all the vegetarians? GemDigger Mar 2019 #100
You misread what I posted BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #102
No I read it. Maybe you need to reread your #3 post. GemDigger Mar 2019 #104
Yes we do, as it is God's Will that we do so. Creation is designed as a food chain. Midnight Writer Mar 2019 #121
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #122
. Internet Research Agency handbook FrankBooth Mar 2019 #47
No, but I am Polybius Mar 2019 #116
Of course we are, silly. Or do you deny evolution as well? X_Digger Mar 2019 #61
You're not a predator BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #64
6th copy Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #69
I mean, the trolling would be more interesting if he'd mix it up, but Christ this is some lazy work. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #88
LOL! Thanks for that. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #89
You're welcome. We don't get to have many laughs over Russian Troll efforts, but this n00b... nt DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #90
Bullshit Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #124
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #125
I race homing pigeons and have a loft Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #133
When racers are out, the loft door must be open Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #134
My friend breeds racing pigeons in Germany. a la izquierda Mar 2019 #127
The Germans consider a cat outside vermin Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #128
This friend also hates dogs. a la izquierda Mar 2019 #129
I feed birds in my backyard Mosby Mar 2019 #135
They are nice birds I keep around mostly to train the dogs Drahthaardogs Mar 2019 #136
Maybe people who are upset over this because leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #14
What sense does this post make? Who are you trying to burn? n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #16
The Golden Retriever ate animals, too. JaneQPublic Mar 2019 #17
Is it also horrible BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #18
No. (nt) JaneQPublic Mar 2019 #21
Why? BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #22
Because they taste great Polybius Mar 2019 #117
Calm down, Ted. BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #119
+1000 MLAA Mar 2019 #30
Fetch cow video: tblue37 Mar 2019 #63
Thanks! MLAA Mar 2019 #66
+1000 MLAA Mar 2019 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #58
wtf? Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #74
What are you confused about? BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #78
How it is you manage to function as a person being so thunderously vapid. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #86
Correction BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #94
You're really not good at this. Whatever you're being paid to do this, it's too much. nt DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #98
Keep your assumptions to yourself. n/t Coventina Mar 2019 #97
Do you think the number is higher or lower? BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #99
As this is a Democratic board, I would suspect that MANY (myself included) Coventina Mar 2019 #101
Have you read this thread? BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #103
Yes, they sure do. MicaelS Mar 2019 #107
I'm anti-exploitation BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #109
I'm Anti-Troll. n/t MicaelS Mar 2019 #110
Ok? BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #111
Oh come on Polybius Mar 2019 #114
No, there's no difference. BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #118
Good comeback Polybius Mar 2019 #120
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Mar 2019 #130
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #131
Oh yeah? Polybius Mar 2019 #132
He Looks Like Someone Made to Order for a Trump Administration Post! DoctorJoJo Mar 2019 #5
Damn I would have taken the dog... Historic NY Mar 2019 #15
In other news Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #19
It's a surprise to see so much indifference to suffering, inflicting terror, shock, heartbreak. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #20
This post BeneathTheMire Mar 2019 #24
Well said!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #43
Wanting to punish wrong-doers is part.. MicaelS Mar 2019 #108
Emotionally ill ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #23
Some people still insist reagan didn't empty the mental hospitals DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #25
+1 MLAA Mar 2019 #29
+1, n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #48
RepubliCons enjoy the cruelty (to patients), Trump-RepubliCons (the current party) even more so. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2019 #67
Blasphemy! Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #91
Well today just got so much harder. mahina Mar 2019 #26
This was a beautiful dog Bayard Mar 2019 #27
The discovery he has been a real estate agent does creep one out, considering Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #79
I'd like to stab him over 100 times, but not fatally. See how he likes it. Coventina Mar 2019 #95
I wonder why he had a service animal TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #113

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
32. He looks ill & needs treatment rather than jail. If given service dog, prob has PTSD. It's hard. .nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:55 PM
Mar 2019

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
106. Plus I think Trump supporters might have teeth but its hard to tell for sure when they are covered
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:51 PM
Mar 2019

with all that slime down in the cesspit.

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
70. Regardless of what teeth I have, I have a choice of whether to be a part of
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:23 PM
Mar 2019

animal cruelty or not and I choose not to. I didn’t always connect my meat eating with cruelty, but after I finally did, I chose not to.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
8. Are you saying that we shouldn't be upset over this?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:45 PM
Mar 2019

If you haven't noticed, there's a bit of a difference between killing animals for food and killing them out of senseless cruelty. Predators in nature rarely if ever kill for pleasure alone.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
10. Our eyes are in front to judge the distance to our prey
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:50 PM
Mar 2019

Yes we are predators and always have been. Even chimpanzees sometimes eat meat.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
13. And our ancestors were HUNTER gatherers
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:00 PM
Mar 2019

Our brains developed in size and complexity because the amino acids in meat as well as the Omega 3s fatty acids in fish.

If you can be healthy on a vegan diet, congratulations. Not everyone can.

Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #13)

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
45. Nice trolling
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:01 PM
Mar 2019

Yes, we see how concerned you are Professor. We mere mortals are basking in the glory of your moral and ethical superiority. One suggestion ... perhaps try a bio-degradable soap box for your next dose of brilliance.

Response to BeneathTheMire (Reply #49)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
62. 5 identical bogus points add up to 0 except provocation. Please stop. You are hurting your cause.nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:14 PM
Mar 2019

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
112. things went south fast, didn't they?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:21 PM
Mar 2019

Got to admit, it's been awhile since I have seen this happen.

Meanwhile, my heart aches for the poor dog.
sounds like the guy needs help, quickly.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
33. I disagree with this conclusion of yours that humans kill only for pleasure...just because you ...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:56 PM
Mar 2019

make a statement like this doesn't make it true. I just got done watching a documentary on PBS where humans over 200,000 years ago killed hippos and consumed them. As a matter of fact, there are all kinds of events where humans have killed for food (fishing for example). I also have seen documentaries where humans have been doing this forever (not for pleasure like you say), but for pure survival. As a matter of fact, in order to hunt more successfully, our brains had to expand in order to handle the complexities of hunting, the tools, etc. (another PBS show).

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
56. Fourth post of this exact phrase in this thread. Please explain how you are not trolling. . . . nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:08 PM
Mar 2019

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
84. We all do. I have dogs and cats too, can't abide cruelty to any of them. Take care, nt.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
96. I have come to learn animal cruelty is rampant in
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

Factory farming and as of about 10 years ago I eat no animals of any kind and as of 5 years ago no animal products either (eggs, milk, cheese). I realized that cows, pigs, chickens have the same feelings as dogs and cats. Too many adorable videos out there of cows, pigs and chickens being loving pets 🙂

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
40. Internet Research Agency handbook
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:00 PM
Mar 2019

Page 112, section 27, clause 9 "How to Troll about incidents of Cruelty to Animals."

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
50. Indeed, but poster joined 4 months ago.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:04 PM
Mar 2019

Activity not a troll activity profile, unless some kind of sleeper.

I think probably a single issue member. Can't see other posts.

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
76. Yeah, better to just block this tool
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:58 PM
Mar 2019

It's much easier on the blood pressure, sort of like my vegetarian diet!

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
65. Please do not spam this forum
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:17 PM
Mar 2019

You have posted exactly the same post 5 times - replies #37, 38, 39, 41 and 42. You are not 'making a point', you are spamming us. It's rude, and unproductive. You also happen to be wrong (one of your posts was replying to me linking to a Nature article pointing out humans have be preying on large animals for over 2 million years), but we've gone beyond 'correct' or 'ignorant' now - you're just an annoying spammer.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
75. You can laugh at me anytime as an excuse for not actually thinking about what I wrote.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:52 PM
Mar 2019

Go right ahead if it amuses you. Your loss, nobody's gain.

 

BeneathTheMire

(76 posts)
77. I though about it.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:05 PM
Mar 2019

Proxy Predator is not an actual term used, it’s something you just made up. Yes, I do enjoy laughing at you but that’s not what this is about.
So this is my whole thing: when someone who eats animals gets upset that a dog was brutally killed, but is not upset by the billions of other animals that are brutally killed every year, that is cognitive dissonance.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
82. Nope. Keep laughing. Your "whole thing"? Now you reveal it? After all those bogus posts? Now?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

No cognitive dissonance because the killings are totally different. But you are blind to the difference because you are able to see it only one way: in purist perfectionist all-or-nothing terms. Does not work like that.

I'm am really not inclined to make any more replies to you, but I expect you will try to provoke me.

Enough.



MarvinGardens

(781 posts)
92. Do you take any pharmaceutical drugs? OTC or prescription?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

I can 100% guarantee that many animals were sacrificed in the development of any FDA approved drug: Mice, rats, rabbits, beagles, etc.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
80. do you wear leather?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

Have any leather furniture? You or your SO carry a leather purse? Then you are by proxy a predator who's behavior facilitated the death of other animals.

Eta if you care about this so much start your own threads, instead of hijacking this one. It's bad form.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
87. Do you take antibiotics or use soaps/detergents? You are murdering animals. Literally millions. nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:58 PM
Mar 2019
 

BeneathTheMire

(76 posts)
93. I minimize my harm to others
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:33 PM
Mar 2019

As much as I possibly can including only buying soap that is cruelty free. I hope you’ll join me in doing so.

GemDigger

(4,380 posts)
100. if 95% of the people are the ones upset, what the hell happened to all the vegetarians?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019

They have no outrage? Shame on them.

Your point is very close minded that everyone has the same ability as you to survive. Not realistic.

Midnight Writer

(25,410 posts)
121. Yes we do, as it is God's Will that we do so. Creation is designed as a food chain.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 02:57 AM
Mar 2019

Every organism MUST be able to consume others to survive. Even plants feed off the remains of others.

Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #121)

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
47. . Internet Research Agency handbook
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:02 PM
Mar 2019

Page 112, section 27, clause 9 "How to Troll about incidents of Cruelty to Animals."

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
61. Of course we are, silly. Or do you deny evolution as well?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:13 PM
Mar 2019

Our teeth, our gut structure, our gait.. all evolutionary evidence of omnivorous lifestyles.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
88. I mean, the trolling would be more interesting if he'd mix it up, but Christ this is some lazy work.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:02 PM
Mar 2019

eom

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
90. You're welcome. We don't get to have many laughs over Russian Troll efforts, but this n00b... nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:11 PM
Mar 2019

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
124. Bullshit
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 06:07 AM
Mar 2019

I keep pigeons and I fucking HATE cats. A hawk or raccoon gets in the pigeon co-op and kills a bird for food.

Cats get in there and kill and kill and kill. I have had a cat kill 13 homers in one night. I hate them and people purposely let them out.

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #124)

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #126)

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
134. When racers are out, the loft door must be open
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 01:04 PM
Mar 2019

To allow the pigeons in. You must be one who thinks letting your cat roam is okay. Its my property. Why should I have to worry about someone's cat?

a la izquierda

(12,336 posts)
127. My friend breeds racing pigeons in Germany.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 07:28 AM
Mar 2019

Interesting thing to do. I love birds but had anxiety being cooped up with so many.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
128. The Germans consider a cat outside vermin
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 07:47 AM
Mar 2019

They are very protective of their wildlife and understand how hard outdoor cats are on it.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
135. I feed birds in my backyard
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

And my neighborhood is filled with feral cats, they are constantly stalking my feeders. I hate them.

I was thinking about getting racing pigeons, sounds like a lot of fun. I had no idea they were so badass, they can fly circles around raptors.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
136. They are nice birds I keep around mostly to train the dogs
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:14 PM
Mar 2019

As I can work on hundreds of flushes with just a few birds. They come home and I use them again. Racing is just something to do for a little extra fun. Some guys are hardcore.

I still cannot believe the number of people who still think it's okay to let your damned cat out at night.

leftyladyfrommo

(20,005 posts)
14. Maybe people who are upset over this because
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:00 PM
Mar 2019

It was an awful thing to do to any living thing. Service dogs like his spend their whole lives dedicated to helping disabled humans. No animal deserves this kind of cruel and inhumane treatment. But most especially a trained, extremely expensive service dog. It was just s senseless act of extreme cruelty.

That dog should never have been placed with someone capable of violence like that.



JaneQPublic

(7,117 posts)
17. The Golden Retriever ate animals, too.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:09 PM
Mar 2019

Most animals eat other animals.

It was still horrible to kill a beautiful, trusting service animal, and you still have no point.

 

BeneathTheMire

(76 posts)
18. Is it also horrible
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:11 PM
Mar 2019

To kill a beautiful trusting cow, or a beautiful trusting pig, or a beautiful trusting chicken?

Polybius

(21,901 posts)
117. Because they taste great
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:13 PM
Mar 2019

They're not getting murdered, they are slaughtered for their meat to satisfy us.

Response to BeneathTheMire (Reply #3)

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
86. How it is you manage to function as a person being so thunderously vapid.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:55 PM
Mar 2019

Good lord, try educating yourself beyond your nose. There are vast numbers of Humans who *hunt for food* all over the planet.

Coventina

(29,731 posts)
101. As this is a Democratic board, I would suspect that MANY (myself included)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:28 PM
Mar 2019

do not eat animals.

So yes, I would say much less than 95%

Even so, as was pointed out by another poster, dogs are omnivores, but that does not excuse what was done to this dog.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
107. Yes, they sure do.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:54 PM
Mar 2019

And do so unapologetically. Dogs and cats are not food animals in this country. In other countries they are. So what?

The only thing worse that a self-righteous religious zealot, is a self-righteous vegan / animal-rights zealot, which is a just another form of religious fanaticism.

I don't want to preached at by ANY religious zealot.

Polybius

(21,901 posts)
114. Oh come on
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:06 PM
Mar 2019

There's a huge difference. We don't kill them ourselves, and they are killed because of our need for meat.

Response to Polybius (Reply #120)

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Response to Polybius (Reply #130)

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
15. Damn I would have taken the dog...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:05 PM
Mar 2019

was in the market for a labradoodle but since it was still a puppy I didn't think it was fair to stop and start training at my house while my family book a crusie and we would be away. the adult dog would have worked out

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
19. In other news
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:13 PM
Mar 2019

Tne NRA and Republican party come out in defense of Mr Bushkin saying "If he'd have had a gun the poor dog wouldn't have had to suffer from all those knife wounds. It would have been a clean merciful killing of his service dog"

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
20. It's a surprise to see so much indifference to suffering, inflicting terror, shock, heartbreak.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:13 PM
Mar 2019

That doesn't sound like the humane characteristics one automatically expects from adult human beings, progressive human beings, intelligent human beings.

Pure, sadistic, murderous hatred has never been a democratic quality.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
108. Wanting to punish wrong-doers is part..
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 08:02 PM
Mar 2019

Of the human condition. It is only a question of who, what, when, where and what they did. And do not try to tell me that frequent posts of "KARMA" are not part and parcel of many progressives mindset.

ArizonaLib

(1,303 posts)
23. Emotionally ill
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:15 PM
Mar 2019

Not excusing it, just sympathetic for the treatment of the dog and that the man had feelings toward the dog or he would not have stabbed it more than a thousand times. Just killing it or wanting it dead would have limited at throat cutting or a single iteration of another method.

Let me explain for what it is worth:
In college I worked for a retired cop who most of this career had been assigned to a beat in a violent part of town. He found a pattern of when people died of multitudes of stabbings, excessive beatings and/or mutilating, it was done by someone who was emotionally close to the victim. Robberies, etc. when a perpetrator wants to eliminate a witness or someone who could potentially stop them from successfully committing the crime receive lethal acts only in iterations necessary to cause death. When excessive iterations were performed against the victim, there was a lot of emotion behind the incident.

He told me that after getting assigned to a more affluent area of town, which was coincidentally, Scottsdale, he arrived at a scene where someone had been bludgeoned beyond recognition, and several officers, detectives, etc. who were new at such scenes were there discussing it. My former boss walked into the house, looked at the remains and asked if there were any other family members living in the house. They said there was one individual. Right away my former boss told them that the other family member did it and walked out. After the investigation, the members of the team came back to my former boss and asked how he knew it was the other family member. He said only someone very emotionally involved would be interested in inflicting so much damage to the victim.

I love all living things, and wish no harm to animals or people. I feel for the dog, who likely merely sought to please his owner. I feel sad that the man has his problems and will likely exist locked up either in prison or secured in a mental institution, where he probably should have been in the first place, but I don't know anything else about him, so I can't say. I am also angry that the dog suffered and died like it did, and I am angry that the man didn't receive the proper help he needed.

I can say this: When Reaganomics cut funding for mental institutions and homelessness became part of our society for the first time since the 30's, our society has never been the same.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
25. Some people still insist reagan didn't empty the mental hospitals
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:38 PM
Mar 2019

But they're all liars.

I find it quite ironic and funny, really, that reagan, the bastard who emptied mental hospital patients out onto the street to help cut taxes for millionaires wound up demented, dribbling on his bib, shitting his pants.

Fuck ronald reagan and anyone who has anything good to say about him. After nixon was vanquished, it was reagan who put this nation back on the wrong track again. Voodoo economics trickle-down bullshit we're still suffering under today.

Mental Health Systems Act of 1980

"The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. During the following Ronald Reagan administration, the United States Congress repealed most of the law.[1] The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy."

Coinciding with a movement during the 1970s for rehabilitation of people with severe mental illnesses, the Mental Health Systems Act supported and financed community mental health support systems, which coordinated general health care, mental health care, and social support services.[2] The law followed the 1978 Report of the President's Commission on Mental Health, which made recommendations for improving mental health care in the United States. While some concerns existed about the methodology followed by the President's Committee, the report served as the foundation for the MHSA, which in turn was seen as landmark legislation in U.S. mental health policy.[3]

The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, signed by President Ronald Reagan on August 13, 1981, repealed most of the MHSA. The Patients' Bill of Rights, section 501, was not repealed; per Congressional record, the Congress felt that state provisions were sufficient and section 501 served as a recommendation to states to review and refine existing policies.[4]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
60. RepubliCons enjoy the cruelty (to patients), Trump-RepubliCons (the current party) even more so. .nt
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:13 PM
Mar 2019

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Response to DirtEdonE (Reply #25)

mahina

(20,645 posts)
26. Well today just got so much harder.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

Not your fault of course.

I’d wish him to hell but he already lives in it.

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
27. This was a beautiful dog
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:41 PM
Mar 2019

Since he posted pics of it, I'm guessing he was attached to it at some point. Senseless.

Wondering what kind of disability.......

Judi Lynn

(164,124 posts)
79. The discovery he has been a real estate agent does creep one out, considering
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:06 PM
Mar 2019

this guy has met people alone in empty houses to show them the property.

Not the best arrangement.

His faithful service dog couldn't trust him, sadly.

Coventina

(29,731 posts)
95. I'd like to stab him over 100 times, but not fatally. See how he likes it.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

I don't care what his disability might be, he doesn't deserve to live another pain free moment in his life.

To do that to a helpless creature shows a depravity that means he should NOT be allowed in the rest of society.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
113. I wonder why he had a service animal
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:44 PM
Mar 2019

It says it was "his" service animal but I can't find anything about why he had it. It's not easy to get a service animal and they are very expensive.

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